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Author:  MrC [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:38 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Well, it looks like there's 4 of us still in contention, and Space Harrier is a game I'm really not keen on....



Theoretically, yeah, but realistically only if I have the rest of you killed...which still wouldn't work as there'd be no Zaphod to tot up the scores and announce the winner.
Author:  YOG [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:43 ]
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I don't suppose I can submit my Space Harrier score from the last comp? :p
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:56 ]
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YOG wrote:
I don't suppose I can submit my Space Harrier score from the last comp? :p


Let me give that some thought.....





Nope.
Author:  YOG [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:56 ]
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Just joshing - it was pretty durn high. I was unemployed then, though, so don't worry about anything like a repeat performance!
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 13:06 ]
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How Space Harrier looked back in the day:

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Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 18:19 ]
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<3380130> to get me started.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 20:57 ]
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I had an issue. I was happily blasting away on level 7 on my last life and the fucking emulator booted me back to Windows resulting in insta-death (just like it did the other week on Mr Do).

So I bunged in another credit and played until I lost another life.

I'll leave it up to you lot if you allow it or not. The score was 8074610.

I have no idea why Mame is doing it and its making me quite cross as I was on a good run. I was right in the zone and didn't last very long when play resumed.

I have no idea why MAME is suddenly playing up.

Others can decide if I submit that score or not. I may not have time to try again. One of those weeks.
Author:  TheVision [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 21:15 ]
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Is is something to do with a screensaver or power saving settings?
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 21:23 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Is is something to do with a screensaver or power saving settings?


Don't think so. All that is turned off.

Never did it before I let it do a Windows update. Something is clearly causing it to go back to the desktop at inopportune moments but so far it seems to be at random. It's only done it twice.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 21:31 ]
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Java updater kicked me back to desktop a couple of times. Turn UAC off and it won't happen.
Author:  RuySan [ Mon Apr 22, 2013 21:48 ]
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Strange how i never played this one before. It's one of the most 80s looking game ever and an absolute epilepsy attack-bait.

I like it.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:58 ]
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I'd not got to the Bonus stage before - most odd, and very hard to control. It took a while to figure out what I was supposed to be doing.
Author:  MrC [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:39 ]
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Edit - I think I'll have to take that score down - am I right in thinking that, unlike all the other games so far, the credits you bung in before starting the game give you extra lives?

Sorry about that.....
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:09 ]
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MrC wrote:
Edit - I think I'll have to take that score down - am I right in thinking that, unlike all the other games so far, the credits you bung in before starting the game give you extra lives?

Sorry about that.....


Yep, insert ten credits and start and you'll get 30 lives
Author:  MrC [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:14 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
MrC wrote:
Edit - I think I'll have to take that score down - am I right in thinking that, unlike all the other games so far, the credits you bung in before starting the game give you extra lives?

Sorry about that.....


Yep, insert ten credits and start and you'll get 30 lives


Right-o, cheers.....thought my first go was too good to be true :DD
Author:  TheVision [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:14 ]
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I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for letting me know as normally I hammer the insert credit button a few times before I start.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:19 ]
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TheVision wrote:
I wasn't aware of this. Thanks for letting me know as normally I hammer the insert credit button a few times before I start.


It caught me out too.
The first few games were single credit ones, then I mashed "Insert coin" repeatedly, started a game and then wondered what I'd done to get several extra lives by the end of Stage 1. :belm:
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 0:40 ]
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MrC wrote:
Edit - I think I'll have to take that score down - am I right in thinking that, unlike all the other games so far, the credits you bung in before starting the game give you extra lives?


Yes.

We're using the 3 lives (20p) play.

Although my recollection is that back in the day most people opted for the 9 lives (50p) option. I always did. The cabinets had 2 coin slots for both options (or at least the sit down ones did).
Author:  MrC [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:06 ]
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<3499910>

Best I can manage on 20p so far.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:01 ]
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MrC wrote:
<3499910>

Best I can manage on 20p so far.


Always keep moving, NEVER double back on yourself. The enemies always fire at your current position.
Author:  RuySan [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:44 ]
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Did anyone tried to play this with an analogue stick, like with the x360 pad? I suppose that's how the game is meant to be played.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:46 ]
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RuySan wrote:
Did anyone tried to play this with an analogue stick, like with the x360 pad? I suppose that's how the game is meant to be played.


Yep, that's what I've been using and it helps a lot.
Author:  TheVision [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:40 ]
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Author:  MrC [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 13:30 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
MrC wrote:
<3499910>

Best I can manage on 20p so far.


Always keep moving, NEVER double back on yourself. The enemies always fire at your current position.


Slight improvement by concentrating on not doubling back.

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Author:  YOG [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 14:58 ]
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Does using an analogue stick stop him from snapping back to the middle?
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 15:04 ]
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YOG wrote:
Does using an analogue stick stop him from snapping back to the middle?


If you release the stick he still snaps back but you can hold it in place part way across the screen.
Author:  YOG [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 15:31 ]
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Oh, nice!
Author:  MrC [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 16:04 ]
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Most of my deaths seem to be coming from bumping into things rather than being shot.
Author:  krazywookie [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 18:57 ]
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Sorry I missed out on Flying Shark last week, busyness got in te way a bit but also I forgot to post the meager score I could manage :belm:

This ones a lot better IMO, I like a bit of insanity in a game :)

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Author:  YOG [ Wed Apr 24, 2013 20:16 ]
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First chance I've had to play this week. I think I lost lives trying to fly above the weird mushrooms/trees on the third level. They can still clip your feet, I'm guessing...

Ed: hmm, not really. Maybe it was something else.
Author:  RuySan [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 13:45 ]
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Playing with the analogue stick may be more fun and authentic, but i'm much shittier with it. Still haven't beaten my score.
Author:  zaphod79 [ Thu Apr 25, 2013 23:56 ]
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Author:  MrC [ Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:25 ]
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Wahoo! This was by miles my personal best - up until then it was always around the 3 million mark. There was one extra life - I'm not sure whether it was for the bonus stage or for reaching a certain score.

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Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Sun Apr 28, 2013 23:05 ]
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No mishaps this time with it going back to Windows so I can submit my new score of <8753570>

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It is remarkable how the game eases up in difficultly after level 4. The pillar section near the end of level 2 and the middle part of level 4 have always been my bogeymen (and I lost lives on both tonight) since I first got that far in the game. Only lost my final life at the end of level 8 by taking a chance at the end of level baddie by lingering for half a second too long for a shot. You have to watch out for the fact that the game starts to speed up the return fire which, being out of practice, I'd forgotten.

With practice I could probably best this score but it's been a very busy week and I only had 4 or 5 goes to get to my aborted score earlier in the week, and then 1 final go this evening which happily came together. I have a feeling last time we tried this I didn't do that well although I probably didn't have the Xbox analogue controller back then. The original game also had analogue controls so using the analogue thumb stick feels quite natural.

I'm off to play the Amstrad version now:
Author:  MrC [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:24 ]
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Many thanks Zaphod for organising the tourney and congratulations to Dr Zoidberg for the win.

I've had a lot of fun with this, especially getting into games I normally wouldn't have persevered with. Cheers!
Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:46 ]
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Scores for Space Harrier

Code:
Space Harrier
chinnyhill10: 8,753,570
Dr Zoidberg: 6,970,580
MrC: 6,458,950
RuySan: 5,082,900
YOG: 4,526,890
zaphod79: 4,353,880
TheVision: 2,359,680
krazywookie: 1,583,930


Final overall scores :

Code:
46 - Dr Zoidberg
39 - Zaphod79
37 - MrC
36 - YOG
25 - Thevision
21 - Chinnyhill10
14 - AtrocityExhibition
14 - Kraziewookie
8 - Grim...
7 - Saturnalian
7 - Ruysan


Congrats to Zoidberg and both MrC and YOG were neck and neck most of the way but MrC just edged out in the final game
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:45 ]
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Woo hoo!

Thanks for organising this Zaphod.
Author:  RuySan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 15:00 ]
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Wish i joined sooner. I love this kind of challenges, and i got to know a classic like Space Harrier finally.

Thanks Zaphod
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 15:31 ]
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Congrats, better players than me!

Sorry I didn't take part in the last couple, RL bah.
Author:  krazywookie [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 18:11 ]
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Thanks Zaphod! my favorite was Flicky by a mile :)
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 18:32 ]
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Same here. A really nice find.
Author:  MrC [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 19:23 ]
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Flicky was indeed great fun, I'd never heard of it before this challenge (if my memory isn't failing I think we have to thank Romanista for that nomination).

Hope we can do this again soon.
Author:  RuySan [ Mon Apr 29, 2013 20:37 ]
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Indeed. Now i'm playing on Zaphod's retroleague and it's also loads of fun, but the games sometimes are too primitive for my tastes.

I got so nostalgic that i went to look on the thread of the league i once organized. The rivalry between Grim and Zardoz was of epic proportions. Even if they were usually fighting for second worse place.
Author:  TheVision [ Wed May 01, 2013 10:09 ]
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Yep! Thanks for sorting this Zaphod. I would have had another stab at Space Harrier but illness prevented it over the weekend... Pah.

It's got me back into discovering and playing old games again though. I've discovered a new SNES emulator that seems pretty zippy so I'm going to get a new SNES USB pad.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:58 ]
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Rather off-topic but this is a MAME thread I suppose :D

Last night I was playing Chase HQ in MAME because Chase HQ is a timeless classic. I also completed it on one credit which isn't something that I manage very often.

Thereafter I wondered how MAME had come on since I last got a full set of ROMs/CHDs in 2006, so having been slightly lubricated by a 'glass' of wine I thought bollocks to it and did what I've been thinking of doing for a while - and thus ordered a complete up-to-date MAME set from Retro Burner UK.

Current version is 0.164, and it now runs to, wait for it...... NEARLY 250GB! They've added in laser disc games at some point and these are BIG.

You can get a set without the laser disc games and other CHD games, on 9 DVDs for £16, but I was in an all or nothing sort of mood.

Needless to say no one's going to burn 250GB worth of DVDs so instead it's supplied on a 250GB portable hard drive and costs £95, which I duly paid with PayPal.

Once it's arrived if anyone else wants a copy by all means just lob a portable hard drive in the post and I'll copy it over and post it back.

There were quite a lot of games in the last MAME build I was using that weren't working to any sort of playable degree or at all, that I really wanted a go at, quite a few of the more modern 3D SEGA games for example, so I'm looking forward to seeing those in a fully playable state.
Author:  TheVision [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:43 ]
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I may take you up on that offer when they come and of course, I'll chuck you a couple of quid.

I did download a full set a while ago but it was nowhere near 250gb.
Author:  Achilles [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:55 ]
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Author:  RuySan [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:09 ]
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isn't there some kind of underground-gamer equivalent nowadays where i can download that from?
Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:14 ]
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Achilles wrote:
I did look at updating my 2007 Mame set a year or so ago but when I saw that they had put every single Deal or No Deal and similar gambling game in, I just had to back away with a face like in "The Scream"


Yes I've downloaded the MAMEUI64 build to match the ROMs, and of course you can load it up without any of the ROMs being present and look at the games list, I did notice a load of fruit machines in there but the status on them all is 'non-working'. It'd be very interesting if they get the later Scorpion5 and suchlike stuff working, as they were never incorporated into a public release of MFME. There's some pretty tough encryption on some of the new stuff as well.

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I wasnt too impressed that all the CHD's had changed too, some would convert, but some wouldn't and just decided that I wouldnt play all the ones in the existing 18 DVD set, so why get another massive amount that I also wouldn't play. :D


This was always the problem with MAME, with every release a load of stuff that was working in the last release would break and you'd have to go scrabbling around for updated ROMs. I appreciate they always prioritise accurate emulation over everything else, but still frustrating.

This is why I'm just doing a POINT IN TIME acquisition of a full set of ROMs/CHDs/VCHDs and a matching build of MAME, it'll do me for years. (My last one has done me for nine years!)

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I do remember one Saturday night back in 1999 that I was so engrossed with Chase HQ that I nearly didn't go out to the nighclub! Those were the days.

Completing ChaseHQ on one credit is a real accomplishment, to be a god try doing one of the Metal Slug ones.


Yes I was quite surprised to finish it on a single credit. I even fucked up on Stage 5 and had to use a turbo to get to the escaping villain so I thought I didn't stand a chance, but somehow managed to get him down with a few seconds on the clock.

Score was over 10 million which is a new personal best as well.

Then I played some Dangun Feveron, bullet hell shooter with an incredible disco soundtrack :D
Author:  Achilles [ Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:54 ]
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