Derek

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

Kern wrote:

'The Office' is over ten years old? Blimey.

In my third year at university, we'd go to the Goats for cheap beer, then head to a friend's room and watch an episode of 'The Office'. We did this almost every night. Happy times.

Watching and dreaming of your future working lives? High hopes indeed!

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

Trooper wrote:

Kern wrote:

'The Office' is over ten years old? Blimey.

In my third year at university, we'd go to the Goats for cheap beer, then head to a friend's room and watch an episode of 'The Office'. We did this almost every night. Happy times.

Watching and dreaming of your future working lives? High hopes indeed!

I remember when the Office was on and I had been in IT a couple of years. Happy days, I looked forward to work on a Monday I enjoyed it that much, now I’m a bit jaded as a manager and I’m not as into technology as I used to be, too many people tell me technology things these days where once I would be telling them.

Still I pays pretty well and I enjoy it more that I dislike it.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Feb 28, 2013 20:37

Trooper wrote:

Kern wrote:

'The Office' is over ten years old? Blimey.

In my third year at university, we'd go to the Goats for cheap beer, then head to a friend's room and watch an episode of 'The Office'. We did this almost every night. Happy times.

Watching and dreaming of your future working lives? High hopes indeed!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38460

Quote:

"What makes Derek a different kind of sitcom - if it is even a sitcom - is its sincerity. Certainly the last few years, and I'm responsible for a lot of it, there's been this comedy of cynicism and irony. I've tried to leave that behind. There's more sincerity, which sometimes confuses people because they're looking for the undercutting joke."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-27019524

Well, there you go. Sincerity is the new sneer.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Apr 15, 2014 16:39

Is he still saying that Derek isn't meant to be mentally disabled? Goodness.

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

I feel like Derek is an attempt at looking at an issue with kindness (and written with extremely broad, emotive, strokes that at times border on a certain cynicism) but with no real understanding of the material.

Gervais has clear history with old people' homes - his mother worked at one (I believe) and his appreciation of them is obvious. That shines through as a certain believability in that aspect of the show.

But his treatment of Derek, whilst it is well meaning, is written from an understanding of people with Special Educational Needs that has come from little to no interaction with such people. It's like if I wrote a sitcom about why Muslims are people too. It would have it heart in the right place but it would show no real understanding of a culture I have little to no experience of.

Because most people don't have experience of people with SEN then they either a) assume its fine or b) have a icky feeling they can't articulate about the show.

I certainly feel like the latter. The show, whether cynically or not, has a good message - but it talks about material we can't judge the validity of, and we have little faith in gervais to represent well.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Apr 15, 2014 19:25

Dr Lave wrote:

I feel like Derek is an attempt at looking at an issue with kindness (and written with extremely broad, emotive, strokes that at times border on a certain cynicism) but with no real understanding of the material.

Gervais has clear history with old people' homes - his mother worked at one (I believe) and his appreciation of them is obvious. That shines through as a certain believability in that aspect of the show.

But his treatment of Derek, whilst it is well meaning, is written from an understanding of people with Special Educational Needs that has come from little to no interaction with such people. It's like if I wrote a sitcom about why Muslims are people too. It would have it heart in the right place but it would show no real understanding of a culture I have little to no experience of.

Because most people don't have experience of people with SEN then they either a) assume its fine or b) have a icky feeling they can't articulate about the show.

I certainly feel like the latter. The show, whether cynically or not, has a good message - but it talks about material we can't judge the validity of, and we have little faith in gervais to represent well.

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

I think that Kev is the best thing in this show

This is from S2 and they didn't put it in as they couldn't film it for laughing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISw_0He14ZM

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

Quote:

'The Office' is over ten years old? Blimey.

I work in Slough and went for a walk at lunchtime today

This http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/16436 has all been knocked down now!

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

All I know is that any time any of us saw that fucker in the ULU bar mumping cheap beer he was a loud, obnoxious cunt.

more so than me, I mean.

Grim... · **Posted:** Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:37

You mean Kev?

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

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