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or a ps3 which is loads cheaper and so are the games (even in Sweden).

I don't want another 360.

I'll be getting the last of us by the looks of it

Hopefully there'll be some deals after Christmas here.

According to Metacritic (so take with a small pinch of salt), the best retail games that are out for the new gen only seem to be the new Dragon Age and Far Cry 4.

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

-edit- nope, LBP 3 is on the PS3 too.

zaphod79 wrote:

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game.

zaphod79 wrote:

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game.

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit)

http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png

Many Ubisoft cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

LewieP wrote:

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

Which ones ?

(I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?)

Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly!

zaphod79 wrote:

LewieP wrote:

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

Which ones ?

(I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?)

Alien was the one I was thinking of. Also COD: Ghosts and nuThief.

American Nativity wrote:

Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game.

PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit)

http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png

LewieP wrote:

American Nativity wrote:

Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game.

What would you call it then, Single A?

Not sure there's an obvious category name for it, but the studio that made it is a NewsCorp subsidiary, which means it can't be described as independent.

It is a good game though.

We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857

Super Stardust Ultra unveiled for PlayStation 4

An explosive new outing for Housemarque’s classic shoot ‘em up series

Hi PlayStation fans. I’m excited to announce that Super Stardust Ultra is blasting its way onto PlayStation 4!

For those of you who aren’t familiar with the Super Stardust series, the critically acclaimed Super Stardust HD by talented developer Housemarque was originally released on PS3 in 2007, followed up on PSP and most recently on PS Vita as Super Stardust Delta in 2012.

This timeless shoot ‘em up has you pilot a start fighter in the depths of space, defending planets against the onslaught of enemy attacks in the midst of a deadly meteor storm. Your mission is simple, use split second timing and pure arcade skill to make every shot count and destroy everything in your path.

Super Stardust Ultra, has an array of new planets, glorious visual enhancements, and includes no less than nine different game modes, including new modes and established favourites from the series and its’ various add-ons.

With the PS4′s socially connected features, you can now show the world your skills in the new ‘Interactive Streaming’ game mode, letting your viewers vote periodically to change up your gameplay as they watch.

Because Super Stardust has always been about achieving high scores, we have added the feature that allows you to directly send and receive challenges from your online friends; or you can simply compare your scores across the global leaderboards.

If you don’t fancy flying solo, you can also compete against friends in 2-4 player split-screen battles or team up in co-op mode.

We have ensured that Super Stardust Ultra brings the spirit of Stardust to the PS4 with new features, new gameplay, incredible depth and variety, and the best graphics possible, making it the most definitive and best version of Stardust ever!

Wasn't Stardust originally published on the Amiga? There was a tunnel section oon an A demo disk that was amazeballs

Plants v Zombies: Garden Warfare currently free on PSN (also Mirror's Edge for PS3 and NFS: Most Wanted for Vita).

American Nativity wrote:

Plants v Zombies: Garden Warfare currently free on PSN (also Mirror's Edge for PS3 and NFS: Most Wanted for Vita).

Is that actually live for you? Mine's still saying they cost money.

Just refreshed browser and now they're free! Looking forward to playing pvz looks like fun.

Final Fantasy VII: Your Chance To Buy It Again Grim...

(Recent up-res PC edition confirmed console exclusive for PS4. Not a remake, though.)

We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857

That's the bloody future right there, and pulls the rug out under the WiiU to a large extent.

By what metric? "Plays Nintendo games" I'll grant you, but "likelihood of enjoying a long and fruitful life of third party dev support" doesn't favour Nintendo at all. The Wii-U is going to be starved of games even more than the Wii was, I reckon.

Author:	nickachu [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 22:38 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote: or a ps3 which is loads cheaper and so are the games (even in Sweden). Na I want something shiny and new.

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 22:52 ]
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So get a new PS3 then.

Author:	nickachu [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 23:28 ]
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But but... I want next gen. I don't want another 360.

Author:	DavPaz [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 1:07 ]
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So get a PS4

Author:	LewieP [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:28 ]
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Or a Wii U.

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Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:24 ]
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nickachu wrote: I don't want another 360. The best games on PS4 at the minute are also on PS3 or 360. I only got one because a bloke at work was selling his son's for reasonably cheap. I can't recommend one at the minute, especially when you can get a PS3 and play all the exclusives you missed for about £100 at the mo. But hey, if you want shiny then go ahead. Make sure you have a TV that outputs 1080p though. I just upgraded as my 720p TV made everything look last gen.

Author:	nickachu [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:31 ]
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I'll be getting the last of us by the looks of it, also I saw a trailer for Rainbowsix Siege and that looked fun.

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:32 ]
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nickachu wrote: I'll be getting the last of us by the looks of it Good choice. One of the best games last gen.

Author:	nickachu [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 11:05 ]
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Hopefully there'll be some deals after Christmas here.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:18 ]
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nickachu wrote: Hopefully there'll be some deals after Christmas here. Worth keeping an eye on Savygamer as sometimes he will cover stuff for Europe - you could also watch the neogaf 'Europe' cheap thread which is here : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread. ... 08&page=22 they do cover offers in various countries - its very UK centric but they do cover most of Europe if there is something special

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 14:20 ]
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According to Metacritic (so take with a small pinch of salt), the best retail games that are out for the new gen only seem to be the new Dragon Age and Far Cry 4.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 14:50 ]
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American Nativity wrote: According to Metacritic (so take with a small pinch of salt), the best retail games that are out for the new gen only seem to be the new Dragon Age and Far Cry 4. I notice you clarified with 'retail' so you can avoid Resogun :-) Here is the Metacritic list for PS4 : http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/ ... ?sort=desc And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:03 ]
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Nickachu doesn't seem to be interested in many download-only games, so I stuck to retail. Resogun is excellent, though. It seems you're right about Dragon's Age and Far Cry. What does that leave us with then? Resogun and LittleBigPlanet 3. -edit- nope, LBP 3 is on the PS3 too.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:21 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ? Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Dec 06, 2014 20:37 ]
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The Sony keynote address at the Playstation Experience trade show thingy has dropped a huge number of megaton announcements in the last couple of hours, for those not paying attention.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:23 ]
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American Nativity wrote: -edit- nope, LBP 3 is on the PS3 too. Infamous is probably the obvious one http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... second-son Outlast http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/outlast Chariot http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/chariot War Thunder http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... ar-thunder Defense Grid 2 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... nse-grid-2 Are all PS4 only or PS4 + PC Dont starve http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... le-edition Samuai Warriors 4 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... warriors-4 Are both on Vita as well as PS4 (but not PS3 or 360)

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:25 ]
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Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly!

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:26 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: zaphod79 wrote: And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ? Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game. Basically There are some which are obvious ports but in general there are 'extras' having the game on PS4 and XBO even if its just down to number of players , better framerate , better draw distance , etc Personally I thought PS4 COD:Ghosts was almost identical to 360 but it did allow more players on each team

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:41 ]
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PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit) http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png

Author:	LewieP [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:03 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: zaphod79 wrote: And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ? Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game. Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:12 ]
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LewieP wrote: Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4. Which ones ? (I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?)

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:13 ]
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"Many" seems to be a stretch. There's a handful, certainly.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:41 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit) http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png Sony had me at "Uncharted 4."

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:47 ]
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I'd forgotten about Amplitude!

Author:	LewieP [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 17:05 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: LewieP wrote: Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4. Which ones ? (I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?) Alien was the one I was thinking of. Also COD: Ghosts and nuThief. American Nativity wrote: Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly! Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 21:31 ]
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I played all the way through nuThief and didn't encounter any performance problems at all.

Author:	myp [ Thu Dec 04, 2014 23:51 ]
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LewieP wrote: zaphod79 wrote: LewieP wrote: Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4. Which ones ? (I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?) Alien was the one I was thinking of. Also COD: Ghosts and nuThief. American Nativity wrote: Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly! Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game. What would you call it then, Single A?

Author:	nickachu [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 0:19 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit) http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png I watched the video for SIEGE. It looks damn good fun if you can get a team of people who'll actually work together.

Author:	LewieP [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 0:57 ]
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American Nativity wrote: LewieP wrote: American Nativity wrote: Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly! Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game. What would you call it then, Single A? Not sure there's an obvious category name for it, but the studio that made it is a NewsCorp subsidiary, which means it can't be described as independent. It is a good game though.

Author:	myp [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:32 ]
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LewieP wrote: Not sure there's an obvious category name for it, but the studio that made it is a NewsCorp subsidiary, which means it can't be described as independent. It is a good game though. That's naughty. Like Hardy and Hanson sticking a neon label on a bottle of beer, making up a brewery subsidiary and calling it 'craft beer'. I disapprove.

Author:	myp [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:34 ]
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I'll still play it though, because it's hilarious and brilliant.

Author:	myp [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:05 ]
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We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod. http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857

Author:	zaphod79 [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 18:27 ]
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American Nativity wrote: We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod. http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857 To make up for it we get another upgraded version of a great game http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36775187 Quote: Super Stardust Ultra unveiled for PlayStation 4 An explosive new outing for Housemarque’s classic shoot ‘em up series Hi PlayStation fans. I’m excited to announce that Super Stardust Ultra is blasting its way onto PlayStation 4! For those of you who aren’t familiar with the Super Stardust series, the critically acclaimed Super Stardust HD by talented developer Housemarque was originally released on PS3 in 2007, followed up on PSP and most recently on PS Vita as Super Stardust Delta in 2012. This timeless shoot ‘em up has you pilot a start fighter in the depths of space, defending planets against the onslaught of enemy attacks in the midst of a deadly meteor storm. Your mission is simple, use split second timing and pure arcade skill to make every shot count and destroy everything in your path. Super Stardust Ultra, has an array of new planets, glorious visual enhancements, and includes no less than nine different game modes, including new modes and established favourites from the series and its’ various add-ons. With the PS4′s socially connected features, you can now show the world your skills in the new ‘Interactive Streaming’ game mode, letting your viewers vote periodically to change up your gameplay as they watch. Because Super Stardust has always been about achieving high scores, we have added the feature that allows you to directly send and receive challenges from your online friends; or you can simply compare your scores across the global leaderboards. If you don’t fancy flying solo, you can also compete against friends in 2-4 player split-screen battles or team up in co-op mode. We have ensured that Super Stardust Ultra brings the spirit of Stardust to the PS4 with new features, new gameplay, incredible depth and variety, and the best graphics possible, making it the most definitive and best version of Stardust ever!

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 20:06 ]
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Wasn't Stardust originally published on the Amiga? There was a tunnel section oon an A demo disk that was amazeballs

Author:	myp [ Fri Dec 05, 2014 20:37 ]
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MaliA wrote: Wasn't Stardust originally published on the Amiga? There was a tunnel section oon an A demo disk that was amazeballs Yep, same developer too. They've done Stardust (A500), Super Stardust (A1200), Super Stardust HD (PS3) and Super Stardust Delta (Vita), along with Resogun (PS4) and Dead Nation (PS3/PS4).