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ShopTo have put it up for pre-order at a modest four hundred. You can order it through the PC first.

*chortle* This is especially delicious as the first recorded game using this third party physics engine was London Racer on the PS2.

So to summarise...it seems to be based on PC Architecture, the Bloomberg report this morning began with "It's a PC" and then blithered on about social media and the controller for five minutes without mentioning games once. It will not be backwards compatible but users will be able to purchase old games (possibly) from 'The Cloud' (which I assume means 'Marketplace'...and Sony's marketing people should really be moving on from 2010)...and there will be some games released for it, some of which are continuations of existing franchises.

/EDIT: Oh and in the whole 2 hours of the presentation never once showed the new console, give any pricing details or release details that it was going to be available for the 'Holidays' of 2013 but neglecting (from the info I've seen) to mention where exactly it would be available.

Nothing there is particularly enmoistening. Rather wholly underwhelming and slightly depressing.

Sounds like a cell out to me.

*winks *

I couldn't be bothered stopping up last night, but it looks ok to me so far.

I bet we don't get it till 2014 in the uk.

A show the console, show the awesome new games for it, say how much it is. Three simple tasks they completely fucked up. And the controller's still the same shit one I used in 1995, more or less.

Glad I missed most of the conference playing Halo.

I'd expect more details at E3, to be honest. This is just a taster confirming that it exists and it'll be this year. If you're an American or Japan person.

I hope it's good, if for nothing else, to keep the ecosystem going. Two there always are. That is natural law.

Ah, it's in here, sounds awesome!

Malc

Will you be able to take the underpants off in the next gen Elder Scrolls?

No, but on the PC version someone's made a mod where you can choose an Underpant Gnome race at the character creation screen.

So the new controller is the old controller with more junk crammed up its rectum.

I think I probably like that they've ditched Move and shoved it onto the game pad, since the tech was supposed to be decent, but I can't see me swinging the controller around like a light sabre (or whatever).

I couldn't get a decent look at the triggers though, but they better sodding sort them out. From what I could see they still seemed a bit dumpy and wide, but I couldn't really tell.

A PC version? Like a Mac version but for scrubbers you mean?

No, no. PCs are too highbrow for you. They're like consoles, but for adults who have brains and are awesome. They use Speedtree.

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping, past the minutes on it's face?
And the world is like an apple, whirling silently in space?
Like the circles that you find, in the windmills of your mind?

Same old crappy controller. Check.
Sequels to the same old shitty games. Check.
A bit better graphics. Check.
More Move shit. Check.
The chance to pay again to play games you already own. Check.

I am so thoroughly excited!

Eurogamer has a nice gallery of pictures of the new controller. I am warming a bit to it, I must admit – my main concern is the position of the analog sticks.

So, controller looks more confortable than the previous one, but may well be too small and still has the primary control method in a stupid place. And I suspect the touchpad will be shit and have dafyvwaysvto cram it into unsuspecting games.

Games are still too early to comment on (and theyre unlikely to talk about many of the games that are upcoming anyway)

Gone for a more standard architecture so security may be *ahem* a bit intetesting. Certainly a security failure could stand to be much more costly for them.

Overall, about as lacking in information as one would expect at this stage.

Any word yet on swappable faceplates?

I assume that what will happen is that we'll all buy the Xbox 720 and Bezzie action will continue as normal. Ergo I will label anyone who buys a PS4 as a "splitter".

From what I've heard so far I'm swaying towards a PS4.

We shall see what M$ trundle out though.

The PC is the end of history... First the Mac became a PC with a different OS, now the PS4, and supposedly the Durango is x86 based as well...

I also saw some comments asking if it really is X86 or X64 ?

(I cant quite buy that its really 32bit and not 64 but thats what the specs said)

I watched maybe the first 30 minutes of it last night and i'll watch the rest at some point today but i think it covered everything that we expected - there will probably be a very similar Microsoft event over the next month or so followed by some actual game announcements at E3

Nothing will ever top this. Ever:

http://guv1.com/jd-res02/Art/konix_cvg.JPG

Unpopular opinion it may be, but at this stage I massively prefer PS3 to Xbox 360, so I'm very interested in seeing how the next gen plays out.

I will buy whichever has games Im intetested in.

Which judging by the last year or so is more likelyvto be the ps4.

You can't fire a fuel rod canon up Chinnys arse on a PS3.

I can. Unlrss theyre going for a huge increase in memory its overall a performance advantage to keep things to a 32bit space.

What with things taking up only half the amount of bits and all, therefore helping caching and the like.

I doubt I'll get anything within the first 12 months of release. Consoles are too expensive at launch and the level of games is always shoddy and expensive too.

I'll probably get a new Xbox after not too long I reckon. My 360 feels a bit like it's on its last legs and the 20GB hard drive is filled up.

Or be rammed off the road by Dimrill driving an absurdly pimped Morgan.

Needs to come out, have the price fall and for the dust to settle to see what has the best titles + what you lot get. I got the 360 specifically for Bezzie action. You'll note I actually play few games on it other than the ones we mainly play. Last year has been nearly all Forza 4 and Halo last version and 4.

For general other gaming I have enough consoles and computers to keep me amused forever. I feel no obligation to buy the latest Xbox game unless I really am going to enjoy it.

I did get the last GTA, but like so many modern console games it was a soulless grind.

[edit] I still can't believe people are holding off Halo 4 now it has dropped in price. Forget the campaign, the deathmatches are some of the best we've had. As a team we're also now getting fairly good when there is a few of us. That game of Oddball the other week where we won in the minimum time possible was awesome.

I don't think I'll be getting the PS4 or 720 at launch. Like Dimrill says, expensive, they have Mug Tax for a while and the games are usually shonky apart from the 1 or 2 being developed by the manufacturer alongside the console. Takes a good 6 months for the other developers to find their feet.

And what Chinny said.

You can buy me them for my birthday, big 4-0 for me this year so it's ok for you to spend a lot. I don't mind waiting if they aren't out by then.

I bought the Wii at launch because I thought £180 was a fair price but I wouldn't have done that with the 360 or PS3 and I won't be doing that with the next generation of stuff either.

I picked up another Neo Geo Pocket Color on Ebay yesterday and I'm more excited about that arriving than anything new.

If the Xbox 720 doesn't have Havok then it's PS4 all the way for me.

Having said that the 720 doesn't exactly sound like it's going to be anything other than a trojan horse for a load of other Microsoft shit pretending to be a console so I might just end up not bothering, pimping out a PC and then never fucking shutting up about it ever.

Or I must just think at 43 that I should be spending my time more productively grouting and tending to the garden.

Whatever happens I certainly won't be buying all three consoles at some point like I did this generation. Like a fucking idiot.

You'll be too old for computer games by then.

I'm getting you this:

One thing that concerns me is Microsofts obsession with Kinect. I don't want to flap my arms around when playing a game.

I could see the 720 coming bundled with Kinect as standard and that it has to be plugged in for the system to boot.

I'm pretty sure I will be buying both proper consoles (fuck the Wii-U obviously) at some point for the same reason I did this time round: being able to play all the games. I'm happy to buy one of them relatively early then pick up the second one when it reaches a reasonable price at which point I can not only play all platform exclusives but also take advantage of price drops and good deals on cross-platform stuff. The only thing to be decided is which company gets my money in the first instance. All things being equal it would be MS because I prefer their control pad and achievements vs trophies and stuff like that. However there's some horrible (and horribly believable) rumours floating around about them needlessly locking even more stuff behind the Gold paywall (e.g. Bluray playback) and if that comes to pass then Sony win this time.

I doubt the 720 has Havok. I heard Playstations got it.

PS4 better come with a fecking headset and mic in the pack this time round.

Will either have the Filmation engine? The Spectrum has had it since 1982 so these consoles will be RUBBISH if they don't have it.

PS3 has gone from strength to strength recently, whereas I am now loath to switch on the Xbox what with its spinning discs and shitty ad-infested interface. PS+ is an incredible bargain if, like me, you've gotten a bit behind on your gaming, compared to which Xbox Gold feels like paying Microsoft an annual fee for letting the console do what it's supposed to.

Microsoft will have to bring on some pretty spectaclar exclusives to have me even remotely interested.

Whoa, really? Fuck that then.

Also this. The price isn't such a worry, but no point getting something that will gather dust. *glares at wii*

You want games? Look at the games!

http://m.computerandvideogames.com/3926 ... -trailers/

I've only watched the Killzone one so far but, fuck me, it looks deathly boring and nothing like the outstanding first entry. It needs more baddies with glowing eyes up in your space than CoD's endless waves of baddies in the distant so small that you can't tell what they are. I want a robot with glowing eyes to come up to me and fuck me in my face holes, dammit. Oh, Killzone? Yeah, looks shit.

Never saw the appeal of the Wii. Like every Nintendo console ever, there's a couple of titles that are perfection, and the rest is of no interest whatsoever.

Think I can safely say I'll never own another Nintendo console after the DS.

Answered your own question there.