PS4 confirmed

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 14:20

According to Metacritic (so take with a small pinch of salt), the best retail games that are out for the new gen only seem to be the new Dragon Age and Far Cry 4.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

American Nativity wrote:

According to Metacritic (so take with a small pinch of salt), the best retail games that are out for the new gen only seem to be the new Dragon Age and Far Cry 4.

I notice you clarified with 'retail' so you can avoid Resogun :-)

Here is the Metacritic list for PS4 :

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/ ... ?sort=desc

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:03

Nickachu doesn't seem to be interested in many download-only games, so I stuck to retail. Resogun is excellent, though.

It seems you're right about Dragon's Age and Far Cry. What does that leave us with then? Resogun and LittleBigPlanet 3.

-edit- nope, LBP 3 is on the PS3 too.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

zaphod79 wrote:

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

American Nativity wrote:

-edit- nope, LBP 3 is on the PS3 too.

Infamous is probably the obvious one http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... second-son

Outlast http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/outlast
Chariot http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/chariot
War Thunder http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... ar-thunder
Defense Grid 2 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... nse-grid-2

Are all PS4 only or PS4 + PC

Dont starve http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... le-edition
Samuai Warriors 4 http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstat ... warriors-4

Are both on Vita as well as PS4 (but not PS3 or 360)

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 15:25

Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly!

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

zaphod79 wrote:

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game.

Basically

There are some which are obvious ports but in general there are 'extras' having the game on PS4 and XBO even if its just down to number of players , better framerate , better draw distance , etc

Personally I thought PS4 COD:Ghosts was almost identical to 360 but it did allow more players on each team

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit)

http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

zaphod79 wrote:

And I thought Dragon Age / Far Cry were getting 360 / PS3 ports ?

Many of the cross-gen games look like and often play like shit on the old console, though. I don't see "not a next-gen exclusive" as being a reason to avoid a game.

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

LewieP wrote:

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

Which ones ?

(I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?)

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:13

"Many" seems to be a stretch. There's a handful, certainly.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

zaphod79 wrote:

PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit)

http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png

Sony had me at "Uncharted 4."

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

LewieP wrote:

Many Ubisoft cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

FeeX.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 16:47

I'd forgotten about Amplitude! :luv:

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

zaphod79 wrote:

LewieP wrote:

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

Which ones ?

(I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?)

Alien was the one I was thinking of. Also COD: Ghosts and nuThief.

American Nativity wrote:

Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly!

Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game.

Mr Dave · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 21:31

I played all the way through nuThief and didn't encounter any performance problems at all.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 04, 2014 23:51

LewieP wrote:

zaphod79 wrote:

LewieP wrote:

Many cross gen games also run badly on PS4.

Which ones ?

(I remember reading your issues with Alien but have you had other problems as well ?)

Alien was the one I was thinking of. Also COD: Ghosts and nuThief.

American Nativity wrote:

Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly!

Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game.

What would you call it then, Single A?

nickachu · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 0:19

zaphod79 wrote:

PS4 games currently announced for next year (taken from Reddit)

http://i.imgur.com/FjUOKOY.png

I watched the video for SIEGE. It looks damn good fun if you can get a team of people who'll actually work together.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

American Nativity wrote:

LewieP wrote:

American Nativity wrote:

Don't Starve is PC as well, but fair enough. I was leaving the indies alone for now, even though I'm getting a lot of fun out of Surgeon Simulator at the moment. It's perfect for the PS4 controller, weirdly!

Surgeon Simulator isn't an indie game.

What would you call it then, Single A?

Not sure there's an obvious category name for it, but the studio that made it is a NewsCorp subsidiary, which means it can't be described as independent.

It is a good game though.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:32

LewieP wrote:

Not sure there's an obvious category name for it, but the studio that made it is a NewsCorp subsidiary, which means it can't be described as independent.

It is a good game though.

That's naughty. Like Hardy and Hanson sticking a neon label on a bottle of beer, making up a brewery subsidiary and calling it 'craft beer'. I disapprove.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:34

I'll still play it though, because it's hilarious and brilliant.

myp · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 16:05

We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

American Nativity wrote:

We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857

To make up for it we get another upgraded version of a great game

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36775187

Quote:

Super Stardust Ultra unveiled for PlayStation 4

An explosive new outing for Housemarque’s classic shoot ‘em up series

Hi PlayStation fans. I’m excited to announce that Super Stardust Ultra is blasting its way onto PlayStation 4!

For those of you who aren’t familiar with the Super Stardust series, the critically acclaimed Super Stardust HD by talented developer Housemarque was originally released on PS3 in 2007, followed up on PSP and most recently on PS Vita as Super Stardust Delta in 2012.

This timeless shoot ‘em up has you pilot a start fighter in the depths of space, defending planets against the onslaught of enemy attacks in the midst of a deadly meteor storm. Your mission is simple, use split second timing and pure arcade skill to make every shot count and destroy everything in your path.

Super Stardust Ultra, has an array of new planets, glorious visual enhancements, and includes no less than nine different game modes, including new modes and established favourites from the series and its’ various add-ons.

With the PS4′s socially connected features, you can now show the world your skills in the new ‘Interactive Streaming’ game mode, letting your viewers vote periodically to change up your gameplay as they watch.

Because Super Stardust has always been about achieving high scores, we have added the feature that allows you to directly send and receive challenges from your online friends; or you can simply compare your scores across the global leaderboards.

If you don’t fancy flying solo, you can also compete against friends in 2-4 player split-screen battles or team up in co-op mode.

We have ensured that Super Stardust Ultra brings the spirit of Stardust to the PS4 with new features, new gameplay, incredible depth and variety, and the best graphics possible, making it the most definitive and best version of Stardust ever!

MaliA · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 20:06

Wasn't Stardust originally published on the Amiga? There was a tunnel section oon an A demo disk that was amazeballs

myp · **Posted:** Fri Dec 05, 2014 20:37

MaliA wrote:

Wasn't Stardust originally published on the Amiga? There was a tunnel section oon an A demo disk that was amazeballs

Yep, same developer too. They've done Stardust (A500), Super Stardust (A1200), Super Stardust HD (PS3) and Super Stardust Delta (Vita), along with Resogun (PS4) and Dead Nation (PS3/PS4).

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

The Sony keynote address at the Playstation Experience trade show thingy has dropped a huge number of megaton announcements in the last couple of hours, for those not paying attention.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

DAY OF THE TENTACLE SPECIAL EDITION.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Yeah, that's probably the megatonniest.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Final Fantasy VII: Your Chance To Buy It Again Grim...

(Recent up-res PC edition confirmed console exclusive for PS4. Not a remake, though.)

myp · **Posted:** Sat Dec 06, 2014 21:41

Plants v Zombies: Garden Warfare currently free on PSN (also Mirror's Edge for PS3 and NFS: Most Wanted for Vita).

Ramsea · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 963

American Nativity wrote:

Plants v Zombies: Garden Warfare currently free on PSN (also Mirror's Edge for PS3 and NFS: Most Wanted for Vita).

Is that actually live for you? Mine's still saying they cost money.

Just refreshed browser and now they're free! Looking forward to playing pvz looks like fun.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Dec 06, 2014 21:57

Ramsea wrote:

American Nativity wrote:

Plants v Zombies: Garden Warfare currently free on PSN (also Mirror's Edge for PS3 and NFS: Most Wanted for Vita).

Is that actually live for you? Mine's still saying they cost money.

Just refreshed browser and now they're free! Looking forward to playing pvz looks like fun.

I bought it when it was on sale for £13 and I've barely touched it. Oh well!

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

Archive of the twitch stream if anyone wants to watch the whole event

http://www.twitch.tv/playstation/v/3589809

Grim... · **Posted:** Sun Dec 07, 2014 0:46

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Final Fantasy VII: Your Chance To Buy It Again Grim...

(Recent up-res PC edition confirmed console exclusive for PS4. Not a remake, though.)

I only have the PS1 version, to be honest.

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

Just travelled 200km away from home, and then used my Vita to turn on my PS4 and play geometry wars 3 and far cry 4, without any (noticeable) lag and in perfect quality. Unbelievable how well it works.

That's the bloody future right there, and pulls the rug out under the WiiU to a large extent.

The only slight flaws are:
1) I've got to ring the wife if I want the disks swapped (and I'm not sure she knows how to eject, due to those touch sensors)
2) the back screen touch pads do not work well as a replacement for L1/R1 (but the front screen does a much better job).

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

American Nativity wrote:

We can scratch Resogun from our list, Zaphod.

http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2014/12/ ... 5_36768857

Vita version is on the store now - free if you have the PS4 one

Trousers · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3073

Dr Lave wrote:

That's the bloody future right there, and pulls the rug out under the WiiU to a large extent.

I don't think anybody cares about the second screen on the Wii-U these days. It's all about the software. Also that's a pretty high cost of entry compared to an all in one Wii-U.

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

Don't get me wrong trousers. The WiiU in genuinely the best next gen console. By a huge margin.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

By what metric? "Plays Nintendo games" I'll grant you, but "likelihood of enjoying a long and fruitful life of third party dev support" doesn't favour Nintendo at all. The Wii-U is going to be starved of games even more than the Wii was, I reckon.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:15

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

By what metric? "Plays Nintendo games" I'll grant you, but "likelihood of enjoying a long and fruitful life of third party dev support" doesn't favour Nintendo at all. The Wii-U is going to be starved of games even more than the Wii was, I reckon.

It's genuinely the best console because it has the best library of games right now. If anyone was asking me which console to get someone for Christmas this year, I'd say a Wii U.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Intersting. So you don't buy things based at all on how useful they will be in the future then? You strictly only consider how useful they are right now?

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

By what metric? "Plays Nintendo games" I'll grant you,

Its also the 'exclusive' ones for each console which also makes the Wii-U look good

If i was going to buy another 'new' console right now i'd take the Wii-U over the Xbox one simply because anything big 3rd party that comes out will make it to the PS4 but if i want to play Smash / Mario Kart / Bayonetta 2 then the only place to play them is the Wii-U (whereas the Xbox one its just Sunset Overdrive and Halo)

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

But would you choose a Wii-U to be the only one of the three you own?

I'm happy to concede that done large proportion of the software library on PS4 and X1 is roughly equivalent, so there's a weak case for owning both. And the Wii-U has enough exclusives to maybe make it the logical number 2 choice behind one of {PS4, X1}, depending how you feel about Nintendo games. But describing the Wii-U as the single most desirable is controversial, to my mind.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:22

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Intersting. So you don't buy things based at all on how useful they will be in the future then? You strictly only consider how useful they are right now?

I've got a PS4 for the future. I've got a Wii U for right now. Want to have fun playing games this Christmas? Put a Wii U under the tree.

If I could only choose one current-gen console right now to have, it would be the Wii U. The exclusives on the PS4/XBO are weak, and mostly everything else is available last-gen, or PC/Mac. This will change over the next 12-18 months.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

But would you choose a Wii-U to be the only one of the three you own?

No , and I agree its the logical 'second' choice - the only other caveat would be if you were happy with PC gaming which would also give you most of the big games (I play plenty of stuff on the PC but my first choice would generally be a console)

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16558

I'm aware that this could be seen as a failing on my part but I'm pretty sure I'm not unique. The only titles I can think of that I'd really want to play on there are the new Mario (which I would get bored of and never finish) and the new Zelda next year (which I would get bored of and never finish). :shrug:

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14489

markg wrote:

I'm aware that this could be seen as a failing on my part but I'm pretty sure I'm not unique. The only titles I can think of that I'd really want to play on there are the new Mario (which I would get bored of and never finish) and the new Zelda next year (which I would get bored of and never finish). :shrug:

New Zelda looks good but isnt out yet and 'New' Mario is actually last years game :-)

The big Wii-U titles for 2014 were

Smash Bros
Mario Kart
Bayonetta 2

I understand that Myp is also pointing out that if you go for stuff since launch you can add Zombie U , Mario Bros , Nintendoland , and a number of other good games to the list and as those are now 1 or 2 years old you'll get them cheap so you are almost at the stage where its worth picking one up for the library that is available

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:37

True exclusives:
Bayonetta 2
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Hyrule Warriors
Lego City Undercover
Mario Kart 8
NES Remix/2
New Super Mario Bros. U
Nintendo Land
Pikmin 3
Super Mario 3D World
Super Smash Bros. for Wii U
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD
ZombiU
The Wonderful 101

Timed console exclusive:
Shovel Knight

PS4 and XBO do not even come near that right now, IMO.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14356

I would buy 2, maybe 3, off that list. That's be enough to keep me extremely happy over the Christmas period.

myp · **Posted:** Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:46

Saturnalian wrote:

I would buy 2, maybe 3, off that list. That's be enough to keep me extremely happy over the Christmas period.

That's not all of them, just the ones I'd be interested in. There are plenty more.

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