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Author: | myp [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 16:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Mr Dave wrote: British Nervoso wrote: I started Demon's Souls today. Combat is excellent, I like the setting and not as daunting as I was expecting so far. If ye have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. Cheers. Seems that the online community is still pretty busy too. I've seen lots of phantoms and messages so far. Being on PS+ might have helped that. |
Author: | myp [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 18:39 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Hmmmm, interesting mechanic of having to start at the beginning of a section whenever you die. I found a dragon, which breathed fire on me. I didn't have a hope. |
Author: | Cras [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 18:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
YOU DIED. |
Author: | myp [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 19:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Cras wrote: YOU DIED. I have no problem with that. Why are all the enemies I killed back again though? |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 19:31 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
That's just one of the mechanics. Same as when you rest at a bonfire; they'll be back. It's almost old school making you complete the level in one run. Anyhoo, DS2, what's the hex do that says it raises the dead. It doesn't seem to affect any of the enemies with damage even though some glowing stuff shoots out the ground. Weird. |
Author: | myp [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:02 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: That's just one of the mechanics. Same as when you rest at a bonfire; they'll be back. It's almost old school making you complete the level in one. No problem - I can cope with that. On Spelunky you have to start the whole game again if you die! So, that dragon... I probably shouldn't go that way again, right? |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
British Nervoso wrote: Hmmmm, interesting mechanic of having to start at the beginning of a section whenever you die. I found a dragon, which breathed fire on me. I didn't have a hope. Yeah, jsut checked, it is a bit obtuse - Later on (and in the same situation in Dark Souls) there are charred bodies and floor to give you an idea as to a problem. Also a couple of signs from other players gave warnings of a terrible foe and an ambush. I found that by not rushing (as rushing tends to get you killed hard) you'd hear the dragon before he became a problem. Being a less experienced player the first time, I died. He will handily take out most of the enemies on the bridge for you though. British Nervoso wrote: Cras wrote: YOU DIED. I have no problem with that. Why are all the enemies I killed back again though? Hopefully you unlocked a short cut (and got one of the most important rings in the game in the process) such that you don't have to fight all the way back. Finding a shortcut is a rather handy thing, and always brings a smile to the face. -- It's quite odd playing it again, it's quite unpolished compared to the later games. And what seemed absolutely impossible the first time round (The tutorial boss) is really rather a walkover. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
You can! Run Forest, Run! |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Also: I lost my Demons souls save when transferring PS3s. Grr. |
Author: | myp [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:14 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
You can kill the tutorial boss? I thought he was ridiculously overpowered so that you saw what happened when you got resurrected in soul form. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:21 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
British Nervoso wrote: You can kill the tutorial boss? I thought he was ridiculously overpowered so that you saw what happened when you got resurrected in soul form. Yeah. Although the chances of someone unfamiliar to the game doing so are realistically zero. (More so than any other game (series) I've played for decades, it tasks you with learning how to beat it. Which is one of the reasons I love it so.) In so doing you get a few handy items - holdable souls and upgrade stones, and then meet your death in a cutscene. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 20:25 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
I suppose I should add that there's not really anything along the main line of the game that will appear to be quite so overpowered. Although I did play Dark Souls first (aside from levels 1-1 and 1-2) |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 22:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Oof. NG+ has some really nasty surprises. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
King Ring Thing: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
The travel map has most areas done now but it's also indicating that I've missed some bonfires. Just found one in The Valley of The Giants (turned out to be the area from the demo I played before it came out!)! I've missed one on Earthern Peak too. No idea where though... |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 15:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: King Ring Thing: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! you can try, but I very much doubt you'll succeed. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Bonfires: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 20:41 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
King Ring Thing Again. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Also, I'm glad I'm done with Aldia's Keep. A hippo chewed on me. X 5 |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 20:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Dragons Aeire is beautiful! Best looking level so far. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 21:29 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: King Ring Thing Again. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Also, I'm glad I'm done with Aldia's Keep. A hippo chewed on me. X 5 ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! The frog thing? That was refreshingly easy after the he'll that preceeded it. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 21:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Mr Dave wrote: The frog thing? That was refreshingly easy after the he'll that preceeded it. You're thinking of the Shrine of Amana. I'm on about the hippos before the dragon boss. But yeah, thank god the frog was easy otherwise I'd have chewed off my fingers. I felt like of cheated by calling in a phantom after I'd "finally" reached the fog gate only to find a load more of the magic shits endlessly blasting away. I let the phantom get stuck in while I threw magic. Mainly because moments earlier my black Halbard had fell apart and there was no way I was going to spawn at the bonfire again without my ace phantom friend taking all the heat off me. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 23:59 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Memories... Bloody good this init! It's almost got the semblance of a story. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: Mr Dave wrote: The frog thing? That was refreshingly easy after the he'll that preceeded it. You're thinking of the Shrine of Amana. I'm on about the hippos before the dragon boss. But yeah, thank god the frog was easy otherwise I'd have chewed off my fingers. I felt like of cheated by calling in a phantom after I'd "finally" reached the fog gate only to find a load more of the magic shits endlessly blasting away. I let the phantom get stuck in while I threw magic. Mainly because moments earlier my black Halbard had fell apart and there was no way I was going to spawn at the bonfire again without my ace phantom friend taking all the heat off me. I can't even remember any hippos... Although I pretty much stealthed through that place. Found it quite unnerving mainly due to the lack of being attacked. , hence not really remembering it (My comment at the time - "Current location is giving me the heebie jeebies. I'm sure at some point it's going to become very painful indeed."). Think I only fought with the things in the acid pit and two human things there. Dragon was easy. Chaos Storm... Check. Surprisingly vulnerable to pyromancy, that dragon. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:47 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
No way, you'd have had to fight the two hippo's before the dragon boss. I stealthed around one but the other smashes through the wall in yo' face cake and is (as far as I know) unavoidable. You need one of the hippo's to help you smash down a wall to get a chest a bit further up the corridor. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Mr Dave wrote: Dragon was easy. Chaos Storm... Check. Surprisingly vulnerable to pyromancy, that dragon. All the dragons were surprisingly easy. If you stand next to the feet you can get away with murder. I didn't try the talking one at the end though - presumably he will fuck me up if I try anything but I don't know if I need him for anything else yet. Also, what were those signs bleating on about at the bottom of the keep. "Get away" etc from a lever? And then there's a guy opposite who starts moaning about me being a dickhead cause I've pulled the lever. Maybe I shouldn't have pulled it... |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:30 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Oh... the thing from the tutorial area... I only had one attack, the other just sat with its back to me. Given that I'd already killed the three in the tutorial area I already knew how to handle them... and then I just baited it into falling over and ran past to the fog door in the hopes it was a boss. Saturnalian wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Dragon was easy. Chaos Storm... Check. Surprisingly vulnerable to pyromancy, that dragon. All the dragons were surprisingly easy. If you stand next to the feet you can get away with murder. I didn't try the talking one at the end though - presumably he will fuck me up if I try anything but I don't know if I need him for anything else yet. Also, what were those signs bleating on about at the bottom of the keep. "Get away" etc from a lever? And then there's a guy opposite who starts moaning about me being a dickhead cause I've pulled the lever. Maybe I shouldn't have pulled it... Yeah, the talking one is a bit of a bugger to beat. One hit kills being the aim of the day. (Think I posted about my battle with him and the way being rated screwed up my red tearstone ring.) Reward - ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Lever - ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Futhermore ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 16:54 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Mr Dave wrote: Lever - ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Futhermore ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That was him!?! I've been invaded about 3 times by one guy called "Naville" or something. One before the dragon, one in Dragon Aeries and one after the Giant Lord fight. Ah well, I should have paid attention to the signs telling me not to do it. Nevermind. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 16:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Also, was the Giant Lord memory Dark Souls first ever attempt at a Set-Piece? I think so. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 18:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: That was him!?! I've been invaded about 3 times by one guy called "Naville" or something. One before the dragon, one in Dragon Aeries and one after the Giant Lord fight. Ah well, I should have paid attention to the signs telling me not to do it. Nevermind. Navlaan, yeah, that's him. When I noticed there was no rating function on those messages, I chose to pay heed. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 21:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
3 memories done. I can't find anymore or at least I can't remember seeing anymore giants. Also, I'm a bit puzzled (I've unlocked every area that was on the travel list) what to do now. I'll talk to the dragon again (mind you, there's an unoccupied travel slot but it's not shaded out)... |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 23:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: 3 memories done. I can't find anymore or at least I can't remember seeing anymore giants. Also, I'm a bit puzzled (I've unlocked every area that was on the travel list) what to do now. I'll talk to the dragon again (mind you, there's an unoccupied travel slot but it's not shaded out)... You'll be wanting to go to ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Look around there. I hardly noticed the set piece you talked about. My thoughts: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 23:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Cannot. Kill. King. Hnnnnngh. I've died so many times and the best I've done is take him down to 60% health. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Tue Apr 08, 2014 23:52 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
And you can't summon. Fucks sake. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 0:25 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: Cannot. Kill. King. Hnnnnngh. I've died so many times and the best I've done is take him down to 60% health. Have you currently got ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! If not, you could be better prepared. Any less than 4 and it'll be a looooong fight. Or you could just skip it for now, the reward isn't exactly great. although the trick is quite simple ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | zaphod79 [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:26 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Giantbombs quicklook of the PC version http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-l ... 2300-8726/ 16 days till release |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Mr Dave wrote: Have you currently got ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! If not, you could be better prepared. Any less than 4 and it'll be a looooong fight. Or you could just skip it for now, the reward isn't exactly great. although the trick is quite simple ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I've got the 3 from the memories. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! In any event, I went back to the throne room but no one was there. Then I went to see the Queen and she's disappeared. Is there any chance I can make it around to her throne room? There looks like a definite entrance to the left but I was looking for ages yesterday and couldn't find it. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Saturnalian wrote: I've got the 3 from the memories. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! In any event, I went back to the throne room but no one was there. Then I went to see the Queen and she's disappeared. Is there any chance I can make it around to her throne room? There looks like a definite entrance to the left but I was looking for ages yesterday and couldn't find it. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Does intelligence stat-up your pyro then? I just thought it was just the fire seeds. I think the great lightning is 47 Faith but I knocked it down to 37 with that dragon covenant guy. I wanted a fat ass magic to play with when I saw co-op players wailing on bosses with crazy blue magic effects, but I thought I'd be different and go for the Faith one for a change. I'm mainly a tank build (I've got a full compliment of Havel's gear that I'm rocking) but with added fire (+10 Dark Pyro), blue magic (about +25) and faith magic (+37) to play with. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
There's a stat fire bns, which improves pyro, fire weapons and similar. Goes up with int and faith. The standard pyro flame scales with this stat. The dark glove I don't think does. Instead it scales with how hollow you are. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:17 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Facking hell, sounds like I'm missing out on my pyro skillz. I'll get some seeds on the other glove then. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:23 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Even with 50 int, I'm finding the dark flame better if completely hollowed, although pathetic when human. You may want to verify the dark flame has no fire scaling, I'm not totally sure that's the case. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
I can't 'cause I'm avoiding wiki's. I might just find the big boss so I can start looking at what I've been missing now. I've opened all the area's anyway. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:04 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
You just go to the dark flame and check the scaling at the bottom of the screen. (select button to get up help) |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 12:45 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Also, I got invaded by Navlaan again, where the queen was. That's 5 times now. Ginormo Lightning put him to bed though. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 13:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Is he at all hard? |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 13:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
Not so much. He uses mainly Hex's and, in particular, one cunty spell that fires out a whirlwind-like effect that can get you even behind walls. He only killed me once coming out of a memory, cause I didn't know said spell could get behind walls. Obv. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 21:22 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
I just can't do it for love not money so I fought his better half and won in record time. She hit me once. Game over. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 22:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
You want some final stats? Get these in your peep holes. Time elapsed 57 hours. Edit: Warning - may require you to spin your face upside down. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 22:52 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
What the frip do you have in left weapon 2?! It does appear that despite being equal levels when we won, your character does seem to be better thn mine, although I suspect some of the difference might be that I daftly took a shot of the levelling up screen. |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Apr 09, 2014 23:19 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
That's a +10 Black Witches Staff in the left hand. I still can't do the king. I am shit. I'm killing all the NPC's that have served their worth now and trawling the wiki's for anything I missed. I reckon I did reasonably well. I'd even bumped into a new boss where the Smelter demon was. I'd got the trophy for looking at the map with all the flames burning an' all. The guy even gave me his cloak and leggings. But I wanted the clothes off his back so I slit his throat and nicked his helmet. |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:20 ] |
Post subject: | Re: Dark Souls 2 |
My thoughts on the bosses: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Overall, the bosses were generally easier than DS1, although it's hard to say how much of that would be due to familiarity (Taurus Demon kicked my arse originally, now he's untroubling), but I'd say there's nothing akin to the capra demon or O&S. Found out about the coffin yet? |
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