Given how much they have to show in development I think its a safe bet. Although I think they have over promised. If we ever get to go big game hunting on planets, walk around space stations and stow away on other peoples ships etc, I'll eat my hat.

FUCK YEAH!

-20 minutes of our hero and the pirates slingshotting back and forth, firing constantly, but no shots connecting

I am cautiously looking forward to nu-Elite, but have elected not to hold my breath waiting for it, as it's Braben we're talking about here. I bet he's going to take his sweet fucking time.

I am cautiously looking forward to nu-Elite, but have elected not to hold my breath waiting for it, as it's Braben we're talking about here. I bet he's going to take his sweet fucking time.

Maybe he'll just retire and smoke cigars made of pledges.

If he doesn't deliver he'd be finished. The campaign is so high profile that he'd be less employable than a Jimmy Savile impersonator.

Well he's got 1.25 million quid and no legal obligation to deliver anything.

Pretty sure Kickstarter creators are legally obliged to deliver on their promises, or offer refunds.

While Kickstarter strongly encourages developers to be open and clear about the issues they’re facing, and how they money is being spent even when it’s going wrong, they also mandate that refunds should be given. But it’s crucial to realise that Kickstarter has no way of enforcing this – once the money’s been handed over, that’s the end of their involvement beyond hosting the page. Should people wish to get their money back, it wouldn’t be by going through them. On the day that happens on a high-profile, big budget project, it’s going to get ugly. In the meantime, hopefully this is a reminder to those pledging that they’re doing exactly that – they’re not buying. And ideally, perhaps, people will acknowledge that pledging to a Kickstarter project is closer to philanthropy than pre-ordering.

Who needs to be employable when you're 49 years old with 1.25 million quid in the bank?

(Plus whatever he already had, of course.)

But this is slightly different in that its an established dev house with a track record putting games together to a deadline.

Yes, but they have entered into a contract with the backers, and you could take them to the small claims court if they didn't deliver.

Malc

Financial value of the case

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In some cases, even if the value of the case is more than £5,000 and both parties agree, the court could allocate the case to the small claims track. If this happens the usual rule about costs does not apply and if the claimant loses the case, they may have to pay the defendant’s solicitor’s costs. However, if the claimant wins the case, the defendant could be ordered to pay the claimant's costs.

Yes, but they have entered into a contract with the backers, and you could take them to the small claims court if they didn't deliver.

Malc

Up to £5,000



Malc

My point was more, would you bother over £20.

Particularly as you have to pay £80 in court fees that you won't get back.

Tell us a story mr chinny! Please do!

First chance to say this but FFFFFUUUUUCCCCKKKK YEAH.

Even if my mac port hope is fucked.

*looks at user name*

...

*cries a little*

How much do Kickstarter get out of their involvement?

YEs, pelase, Mr chinny!

How much do Kickstarter get out of their involvement?

I know, right?

It still hasn't quite sunk in with me yet that we're finally getting a new Elite game! Elite IV is actually happening!

http://www.kickstarter.com/help/uk_fees

Kickstarter take 5%, the payment people take 3% (+ 20p per transaction, or 5p if it's over £10).

Remember what happened to Star Wars when George Lucas got total creative freedom to do whatever the fuck he wanted.

He sold it?

Come on, Mac version.