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Author:  myp [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 20:39 ]
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I'm probably going to get a Sport 42mm with black band. £329 is pretty decent.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 20:43 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Cookie197 wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Watch is cheaper than I expected.

What kind of price were you expecting?!

Quite a bit more. Watch pricing is insane.

I agree. Decent watches cost money. I think the large sport is probably worth a punt at £339, certainly cheaper than the £1800 I spent on a watch in December!

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:00 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Cookie197 wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Watch is cheaper than I expected.

What kind of price were you expecting?!

Quite a bit more. Watch pricing is insane.

I agree. Decent watches cost money. I think the large sport is probably worth a punt at £339, certainly cheaper than the £1800 I spent on a watch in December!


Decent watches cost a lot, that's true. However they are mechanical objects, built with precision and craftsmanship, and don't go out of date in a year, and have an established market that all agrees that the prices are "reasonable".

The apple watch is fucking expensive for a digital watch with limited resale market value.

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:27 ]
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Is it just me who doesn't even wear a watch these days and hasn't for years?

I kind of kept it up for a while but at the end of the day they're to tell the time with, and everyone has a phone with them these days, and they're also pretty good at telling the time. (The last time the battery in my watch went flat I didn't bother getting it replaced, it's still sat on a shelf upstairs.)

I know some people do them for 'fashion' or something, but meh to them.

And then these new 'smartwatches' won't do anything that a phone can't already do, except they're wrist-based rather than pocket-based. And smaller. And stupidly expensive.

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:28 ]
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I thought it was circular!? When did they ditch that?

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:30 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
I thought it was circular!? When did they ditch that?


There are a few android smart watches that are circular. I imagine you mixed it up with one of them.

Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:32 ]
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Musta been. Or I'm confusing the circular app buttons or summats.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:32 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Is it just me who doesn't even wear a watch these days and hasn't for years?

I kind of kept it up for a while but at the end of the day they're to tell the time with, and everyone has a phone with them these days, and they're also pretty good at telling the time. (The last time the battery in my watch went flat I didn't bother getting it replaced, it's still sat on a shelf upstairs.)

I know some people do them for 'fashion' or something, but meh to them.

And then these new 'smartwatches' won't do anything that a phone can't already do, except they're wrist-based rather than pocket-based. And smaller. And stupidly expensive.


I thought the same, but I use my smart watch a hell of a lot more than I thought I would. It's hard to get across the convenience of just turning your wrist when you get a notification, without living with it for a bit.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 21:34 ]
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It's easier to look at my wrist than to get my phone out. But then, my watch cost £15

Author:  Cras [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 22:16 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
It's easier to look at my wrist than to get my phone out. But then, my watch cost £15


It would be, but 10 years of not wearing a watch and having a smartphone in my pocket means muscle memory has made that not the case for quite some time.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 22:25 ]
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'Quick Draw Craster'

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 22:29 ]
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The belt clip helps

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 22:43 ]
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Grim... wrote:
The Macbook is interesting - I'm curious to see how well it shifts heat with no fan. Also it's so thin! I'm beginning to wonder if there's such a thing as too thin.
One point one giga hertz tho.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 22:46 ]
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I reckon the Vice Chancellor already has his order in. I'll get to play with it briefly.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 22:48 ]
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Wait. Only one usb-c?

There's your game-changer.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Mar 09, 2015 23:17 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
'Quick Draw Craster'


Anyone else notice how it took a FUCKING HEART ATTACK to make Zardoz spend time hanging around on Beex?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 0:20 ]
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Let that be a lesson to you cunts.

Pundy is next.

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:57 ]
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I'm just now catching up with the stuff that came out of today's Apple event but a new MacBook for just over a grand with a "1.1GHz dual-core Intel Core M"? I know the Doc already mentioned this and, as always, I'm sure I'm missing something here but isn't that hideously underpowered in general; and especially ludicrous for that price? I mean it's only 1.1 Ghz and only dual core and it's a specifically 'mobile' processor (which are generally stepped down at some level) so on paper it comes across like some netbook level nonsense. It seems really unlikely Apple would comes out with something like that so I'm genuinely assuming I'm missing a trick here?

ETA: I realise you can pay more to beef it up a bit but an extra £250 only gets you an extra 25Gb of SSD space and a 0.1GHz CPU speed bump. What the hell?

Author:  asfish [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:12 ]
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Quote:
Decent watches cost a lot, that's true. However they are mechanical objects, built with precision and craftsmanship, and don't go out of date in a year, and have an established market that all agrees that the prices are "reasonable".

The apple watch is fucking expensive for a digital watch with limited resale market value


Considering that you need a £500 IPhone as well to make the watch do anything more useful than tell the time then its expensive @£299. Also I guess you need to keep in mind the battery life of the phone, mine will hardly to a day now and its a 6, wonder if connecting to the watch will drain the phone more?

The lasts IOS 8.2 includes an app for the watch, another one of the annoying Apple ones that you can't remove from the phone

Sure they will sell in bucket loads though, the top end ones costing £8,000 are not good value you can get a Rolex for that, which even if you wear it all the time would hold its value.

Have to wonder on the IOS updates and how long these will be functional as well. I found an old Ipod with IOS 4.2 in a draw the other day, can't find a single app for it and even the ones on it like Youtube no longer work

Will be interesting to see how the notebook performs, I remember HP making small laptops with these sorts of CPU's in them a few years ago, they ran like shit and were underpowered. Sure Apple will do a better job of things but would still wonder about power vs weight.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:25 ]
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Bamba wrote:
It seems really unlikely Apple would comes out with something like that so I'm genuinely assuming I'm missing a trick here?

The questions you're asking shows that you're not the demographic for this product.

I'm not either, though.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:43 ]
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As I alluded to above, the target demographic for the super-light laptops tends to be non-power users with very light requirements. The VC's Air (a late 2013 model if memory serves) has never seemed slow, per se, but he doesn't really do anything with it. Reading PDFs is about as demanding as it gets.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:48 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
As I alluded to above, the target demographic for the super-light laptops tends to be non-power users with very light requirements. The VC's Air (a late 2013 model if memory serves) has never seemed slow, per se, but he doesn't really do anything with it. Reading PDFs is about as demanding as it gets.

Also comparing specs with equivalent PCs is not always super-useful as Macs tend to be a lot better optimised due to the same company making the hardware and OS.

At this point they're almost an iPad with a keyboard.

Author:  asfish [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:28 ]
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Quote:
At this point they're almost an iPad with a keyboard.


Your right on that point! Maybe there will be a 12 inch Ipad out this year?

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:29 ]
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asfish wrote:
Quote:
At this point they're almost an iPad with a keyboard.


Your right on that point! Maybe there will be a 12 inch Ipad out this year?


It's looking quite likely that there will be, if you follow the Apple rumour sites.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:22 ]
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Cras wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
'Quick Draw Craster'


Anyone else notice how it took a FUCKING HEART ATTACK to make Zardoz spend time hanging around on Beex?

Maybe I got brain damage too?

Hard to tell, I know.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:23 ]
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So what iWatch model are you all chipping in for me?

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:28 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
So what iWatch model are you all chipping in for me?

The ten grand one. I've put in 2p.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:30 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
So what iWatch model are you all chipping in for me?

The ten grand one. I've put in 2p.

You always do...

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:31 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
So what iWatch model are you all chipping in for me?

The ten grand one. I've put in 2p.

You always do...

:metul:

Author:  RuySan [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 13:25 ]
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I just fail to see the market for smartwatches. People use watches because of two things:

- They're reliable
- They function as jewelry

This isn't neither, and what it does, a smartphone does it better.

Besides, for that price i can buy a watch from a good brand like Tissot or Seiko, which isn't going to make me look like a dork, and it will keep its value for a long time.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 13:48 ]
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A smart watch isn't a watch.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 13:52 ]
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Cras wrote:
A smart watch isn't a watch.

This has been my mantra for months now.

I need a new mantra. It's not helping me meditate.

Author:  Kern [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 14:23 ]
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I don't like the idea of my watch having the same poor battery life as my phone or Ipod. I shouldn't have to charge it every other day.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 14:25 ]
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Kern wrote:
I don't like the idea of my watch having the same poor battery life as my phone or Ipod. I shouldn't have to charge it every other day.

If you just want a watch that tells the time then stick with a dumb watch. :)

Author:  Kern [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 14:26 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Kern wrote:
I don't like the idea of my watch having the same poor battery life as my phone or Ipod. I shouldn't have to charge it every other day.

If you just want a watch that tells the time then stick with a dumb watch. :)


I can find north with it too.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 14:35 ]
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Kern wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Kern wrote:
I don't like the idea of my watch having the same poor battery life as my phone or Ipod. I shouldn't have to charge it every other day.

If you just want a watch that tells the time then stick with a dumb watch. :)


I can find north with it too.

Image

Cool!

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 14:42 ]
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I just wander about until people start saying 'Winter is coming'.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 15:00 ]
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Kern wrote:
I don't like the idea of my watch having the same poor battery life as my phone or Ipod. I shouldn't have to charge it every other day.


I don't see the point of my smartwatch lasting for longer than my phone, as it is reliant on it ;)

Author:  markg [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 15:49 ]
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The problem with a short battery life is that it needs to be worth the faff. For something that is chiefly designed to save the enormous bother of taking your phone out of your pocket then taking it on and off every night to put it on charge seems pretty shite.

Are those motos people on here bought mostly just sat in drawers yet?

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 15:56 ]
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markg wrote:
Are those motos people on here bought mostly just sat in drawers yet?


Use mine everyday and wouldn't want to be without it.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 16:08 ]
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markg wrote:
taking it on and off every night to put it on charge seems pretty shite.

You sleep with your watch on?

Author:  markg [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 16:13 ]
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To be honest it's been about fifteen years since I wore one so I can't actually remember. I reckon I probably could though.

Author:  myp [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 16:21 ]
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markg wrote:
To be honest it's been about fifteen years since I wore one so I can't actually remember. I reckon I probably could though.

That's pretty disgusting. You'd get all sorts of sweaty dead skin stuck behind it. ;)

I take my watch off every night anyway - doesn't seem much more of a hardship to plug it into a charger.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:05 ]
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Trooper wrote:
markg wrote:
Are those motos people on here bought mostly just sat in drawers yet?

Use mine everyday and wouldn't want to be without it.

:this:
I like it far more than I expected to.

You don't even have to plug them in, as such - they just sit on their little holder.

Trooper: Do you turn the screen off on yours each night? I find it far too bright if I don't.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:06 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
I just wander about until people start saying 'Winter is coming'.

This deserves a :D

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:09 ]
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Having some sort of wireless (between device and charger, I mean) charging plate would be my ideal, although I guess induction charging isn't viable.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:17 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Having some sort of wireless (between device and charger, I mean) charging plate would be my ideal, although I guess induction charging isn't viable.

That's exactly how Grim... and Trooper's Moto 360s work. My LG G Watch uses surface-mounted pogo pins and a magnetically coupled cradle.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:21 ]
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Grim... wrote:

Trooper: Do you turn the screen off on yours each night? I find it far too bright if I don't.


Nah, but i'm used an alarm clock with a bright LED display on it, the watch is no brighter than that.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:22 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:

Trooper: Do you turn the screen off on yours each night? I find it far too bright if I don't.


Nah, but i'm used an alarm clock with a bright LED display on it, the watch is no brighter than that.

Are you getting any screen burn? The "Moto" logo seems to be a culprit.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Mar 10, 2015 17:27 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:

Trooper: Do you turn the screen off on yours each night? I find it far too bright if I don't.


Nah, but i'm used an alarm clock with a bright LED display on it, the watch is no brighter than that.

Are you getting any screen burn? The "Moto" logo seems to be a culprit.


Can't see any. I run mine at Brightness 1 with ambient turned on.

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