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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 18:11 
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It's also worth noting that this game runs very well on even a modestly specced PC, I'm currently installing it on Mrs AE's old laptop to see if that can handle it too as an extra frame of reference system-spec wise. (It was a high-end Sony Vaio when it was new, but it's cracking on a bit now and only has a Core Duo CPU (2.3GHz IIRC), 3GB system RAM, with a 4650M GPU, with 512MB of RAM. If that can run it nicely I'd say you could run Dishonored on anything.)

I realise Dishonored has had a fair amount of bummage in this thread, but not enough IMO, it's absolutely on my top ten games list of this generation.

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Laptop ran it fine at 720p with all settings on HIGH and lightshafts turned on and V-SYNC turned off. Wouldn't say it was a silky-smooth 60FPS but certainly up in that sort of range, framerate held up in combat too.

Doubtless it'd be possible to tweak various settings to get the exact required experience, but in essence, Dishonored is perfectly playable on a four year old laptop (albeit one that was pretty high end when it was new) - so considering Dishonored is now £3.99, there's really no excuse to miss it!

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Gave this a go over a couple of evenings. Enjoyed it for a while then it felt dull.
I imagine its a problem with me and gaming in general lately.
Not much time and patience for games these days, prefer quick blast arcadey stuff if anything.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 20:21 
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Zardoz wrote:
Gave this a go over a couple of evenings. Enjoyed it for a while then it felt dull.
I imagine its a problem with me and gaming in general lately.
Not much time and patience for games these days, prefer quick blast arcadey stuff if anything.


I can understand that but then again I felt Dishonored fitted that mould perfectly, I binned off WoW because I just don't have the time or inclination to play MMOs any more (the same reason I sort of 'looked at' EvE and then left it alone), but Dishonored is a great game to just play in 30-60 minute sessions I found.

I fell out with Bioshock Infinite because it wouldn't let me save when I wanted to, effectively forcing me to play past my preferred stop point (plus it was a bit shit too), but Dishonored has manual saves, auto saves and also a quicksave slot, so pretty much any time slot that you can assign to it is worthwhile.

If you've fallen out with 'normal' games pretty much full stop then fair enough (I remember I went through a phase a few years ago where MAME was about all I played games on for a few months), try Sonic and All Stars Racing Transformed, that's a nice arcadey racer with a modern lick of paint!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2013 21:50 
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Yeah, I'm in a trough gaming wise. Taken out the Blockbuster offer of 10 quid for 1 game until end of school hols with unlimited swaps so just checking bits out while I can. If it doesn't grab me I swap it.

Anyhow, enough derailing, sorry.

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Zardoz wrote:
Yeah, I'm in a trough gaming wise. Taken out the Blockbuster offer of 10 quid for 1 game until end of school hols with unlimited swaps so just checking bits out while I can. If it doesn't grab me I swap it.

Anyhow, enough derailing, sorry.

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MORE DLC, AND IT LOOKS ACE!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... hes-review

I'm having to reinstall the game as I cleared it off to make some room on my SSD, reinstalling now.

Not sure if this DLC is actually available yet.....

EDIT - Available in the Steam Store now, FINISH REINSTALLING YOU BASTARD THING, CURSE MY 16MEG ADSL!

I knew I should have upgraded to VDSL (we don't have no fucking fibre over here).

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Save a couple of quid getting it here instead of steam
http://savygamer.co.uk/2013/08/13/disho ... s-pc-6-40/


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Ooh, out on Xbox yet?


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Save a couple of quid getting it here instead of steam
http://savygamer.co.uk/2013/08/13/disho ... s-pc-6-40/


Cheers Lewie but I have to register and stuff to be able to purchase from there, and I'm too impatient!

It's only a difference of £1.60 anyway, the extra time I'll get playing the new DLC is more important to me :hat:

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The only bad thing about more Dishonored DLC is that I know I'll finish it fairly sharpish and then I'll be forced to play shitter games.

Obviously there's still the towering majesty of BF3 for multiplayer shenanigans, but for single player japes, I'm hard pushed to think of a better game of the last 'generation' if you will.*

Borderlands 2 and DXHR were pretty damn awesome, Max Payne 3 burned incredibly brightly but was very much a single playthrough and then leave it sort of affair, there was GTA4 too of course, but Dishonored is definitely right up there with the best of the best.

The Witches Dishonored DLC gets off to a very strong start, which is fine form considering it's the 're-tread' level, albeit with a very different take on Coldridge Prison. Gonna do low chaos first, and then go back and smash it all up in high chaos. (Same as I did for the main campaign and the first DLC.)

In an excellent little touch, it gives you the choice of starting the Witches DLC with either your low chaos or high chaos 'Daud build' from The Knife of Dunwall DLC, (I guess it affects the gameworld too), or to start the Witches DLC as a whole new endeavour. (Since the Witches DLC is played as Daud as well.)


* Admittedly I did spend some three years of the current gen playing WoW, but I've got games like Fallout 3 and Skyrim in my catalogue, played them both for a reasonable amount of time, and they really did very little for me. Dishonored truly is a class apart.

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Witches of Brigmore DLC low chaos playthrough finish! Needless to say I'm going to jump straight back in and do high chaos (loading in my high chaos save from The Knife Of Dunwall DLC, for maximum high chaos).

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It's actually quite cleverly done, in that the Daud DLC basically runs alongside the main Corvo campaign in chronological terms, so that the Witches DLC ends with Corvo choosing to kill or spare you (effectively mirroring the bit in the main campaign where you come across Daud playing as Corvo), even though he doesn't know you've just saved Emily. I did low chaos on this playthrough so he spared me, I suspect of course that he'll kill me on high chaos.


The witches themselves are some nasty ass types, there's one bit where you find an overseer who's been force-fed the remains of his dead friend to the point of insanity, the little journal that the witch has kept next to him says it all, and he is indeed a gibbering wreck when you talk to him - renouncing anything and everything, it's saying something when you feel sorry for an overseer.

Also, loved the new 'pull' power, which is sort of like a reverse blink in that you pull things to you rather than jumping to them (Level 2 allows you to do people and animals as well as objects), although a quick blink>pull combo of course can cover a massive distance in a dizzyingly quick slice of time. (And if you chuck a bend time in there as well, it's really rude.)

Dishonored + DLC is the one of the best overall videogame experiences ever, Top Ten Lifetime entry, I'd say.

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Well that's all done now, a low and high chaos playthrough of the entire game - main campaign, DLC one and DLC two. (And it's not quite as straightforward as that, I really have messed around with the game's mechanics to a quite stupid degree, saving and loading time and time again, trying multiple attempts to the same situation until I get the one I'm happy with.)

65 hours total playtime which in 'bangs for bucks' terms works out to an absolute bargain, but it's not a question of looking at the game in those terms, it's just been a glorious experience from start to finish, and the DLC has been genuinely worthwhile too. Having Corvo's story finish (one of three ways) and then moving to Daud for the DLC but in the same timeline was a design decision I wasn't too sure of to start with, but it works incredibly well.

The end of the second DLC is very binary, as befits the simple LOW and HIGH chaos choices, but it works for me. (And it's not just the outsider's commentary that changes.)

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Low chaos - Corvo spares you. High chaos - Corvo kills you.

Sounds dead basic but having played out the entire game as Corvo in the main campaign, you know how trivial it is for him to kill you or not, so it works incredibly well when he makes his choice.

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Ooooohhhh! Dishnored 2!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015- ... d-tomorrow

I am going to be so all over this.

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Should get its own thread for the hype train.


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Fuck me, I spelled Dishonored wrong. How bad is that.

But yes, maybe a new thread would be appropriate, better wait for the official reveal though I suppose.

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My eulogising about the first game is well documented in the last couple of pages of this thread, it was just so damn good. (And I realise it got much well deserved bumming from many others earlier in the thread.)

I really do hope it's the same team who makes the sequel, and that they stay true to the 'feel' of the first game.

Dishonored would be up there in my all-time Top Ten games, I reckon. I only stopped playing it when I'd literally done everything there was to do.

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Is this worth the £15 they want for it on PS4?

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Is this worth the £15 they want for it on PS4?


Yes, yes, and yes.

I'd stick it somewhere in my Top Ten Games Of All Time list. The DLC is awesome too so if you can get some sort of GOTY edition, grab that.

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MaliA wrote:
Is this worth the £15 they want for it on PS4?


Yes, yes, and yes.

I'd stick it somewhere in my Top Ten Games Of All Time list. The DLC is awesome too so if you can get some sort of GOTY edition, grab that.


Yeah. It says it is that so cool. Ta.

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Probably worth waiting until it's out. There's been a few examples of really bad ports of old games to the new consoles, and Bethesda/Arkane have said almost nothing about this new port. No technical specs released, no footage available, no confirmation about whether it was developed by Arkane in house, or farmed out to the lowest bidder.

In theory it should be an easy enough game to port over, but if they haven't dedicated enough resources to it, any port can end up being a shit port.

I'd be disappointed if it wasn't 60fps, but if it was surely they would have advertised that fact by now?

Either way it is a great game, but personally I'd want to know a little more about the quality of the port before handing my money over. If it's just "barely improved" rather than "actually worse" it'll still be worth playing.


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1080p/60FPS should be a shoe-in for the PS4 I'd have thought, I installed it on Mrs Hearthly's old laptop which has a Radeon 4850 with 512MB of RAM and even that could shunt it around pretty nicely at 720p. (Laptop RAM is 4GB, the GPU has its own 512MB of RAM.)

I take your point though, it is conceivable that they'll completely knob the port up so best to wait for some reviews.

TBH I didn't realise it wasn't already out, hence my unequivocal recommendation of it to Mail.

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It's alright. It's not a patch on Bioshock Infinite.


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It's alright. It's not a patch on Bioshock Infinite.


In some countries that sort of comment is punishable by death, and quite rightly so.

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It is better than any of the Bioshocks (especially Infinite), and better than DXHR or nuThief.

Turns out my suspicions were correct, and it runs at 30fps on PS4/Xbox One.

Certainly not a case of the hardware not being capable of running it at 1080p/60fps, but they most likely wanted to do the port as cheaply as possible. More to just get it available on the same platforms that the sequel will be coming to than to actually deliver a definitive version of the game.

If you have a mid range gaming PC from the last 3/4 years, it will probably play better on that. A real missed opportunity, and I think the game deserves better.


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Nnnñnnnng!

I shall wait for a review of it.

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That is a shit article. Frame rate obviously matters. I'm not going to argue that all games need to be 60 fops, that would be madness, but it's pretty clear that this game only isn't because Bethesda cheaped out on the port.

Perception of framerate is also highly subjective, we all have different eyes and brains. For me it matters far more in 3d games with a fast moving camera. Especially first person games.

Totalbiscuit is a dick, and I'm not going to harass any developers about framerates, but I think it is a good idea to be an informed consumer, especially when so many publishers try to get away with all sorts of dodgy stuff. Bethesda are calling this game Definitive, but haven't even told anyone what they mean by definitive!


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