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Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:43 ]
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So, there might be a new series of Red Dwarf tonight, on Dave. I'm almost certain there won't be, but you never know.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:46 ]
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I saw a poster saying so, but it couldn't be true. The last series was in 1993 and they all looked so much older!

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:48 ]
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Seriously though. What happened to them?

Image

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:49 ]
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They... got older?

A white hole?

Author:  Cras [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:54 ]
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I reckon it'll be super-brill.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:00 ]
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It will be just as good as good as the other series.

Fucking wank.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:10 ]
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Kryten will now be battery powered, spend his whole time talking about the amount of CO2 Starbug kicks out and only able to be in half the episode before he needs recharging...

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:33 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Seriously though. What happened to them?

HDR, by the looks.

Author:  Zeppo [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 14:05 ]
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Hopeless optimist that I am, I can't wait to give the boys from the dwarf another chance. The studio audience, the sets, all looks great. Fingers crossed anyway, even if it's shit I'll probably still be compelled to watch to the end...

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 14:19 ]
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There's a number of reviews of this floating around that are quietly positive.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 14:20 ]
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I hold a slim hope that it will be return to form.

Slim.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 14:33 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
There's a number of reviews of this floating around that are quietly positive.


Craster wrote:
I reckon it'll be super-brill.

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:05 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I hold a slim hope that it will be return to form.

You never know, but the Dave special was awful and I worry that Naylor just doesn't have comedy chops. He can write a good sci-fi yarn, but it's clear from the TV show and books that Grant inserted most of the jokes. Still, I'd love for this to work, not only because it's a series that didn't deserve to die but because it could also lead to Dave having more confidence regarding commissioning original series that are a bit more ambitious than a panel show. (Oh, who am I kidding? I'm just hoping Red Dwarf fucking rocks and then Dave on a whim continues Ideal.)

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:11 ]
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What happened twixt Grant and Naylor? Summary plz.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:13 ]
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CraigGrannell wrote:
it's a series that didn't deserve to die


Oh my lords it so completely did. Series seven and eight were so bad they made me go bald and start ageing.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:22 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
What happened twixt Grant and Naylor? Summary plz.

Fell out.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:25 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
What happened twixt Grant and Naylor? Summary plz.

Fell out.

OK, I deserved that. York Notes rather than dust jacket version plz.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:26 ]
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One wanted to continue with Dwarf, the other didn't. No huge DRHAMA as far as I'm aware

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:45 ]
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Yup. Grant had been bored for a while and I recall him thinking series six was a dip that he didn't want to turn into an irreversible dive. Naylor then spent a few years mostly forgetting Red Dwarf was a sit-com rather than a sci-fi, presumably.

Author:  Cavey [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 16:08 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
Series seven and eight were so bad they made me go bald and start ageing.


Fuck! I knew there had to be a reason, I watched this as well!

/picks up phone

"Hello? Claims Direct?...."

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 16:24 ]
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I'm pretty sure I was sexy and immortal before watching them. So much is lost.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 17:02 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
I'm pretty sure I was sexy and immortal before watching them. So much is lost.


Ah... Girl look at that beard [x3]
Ah... I work out
Ah... Girl look at that beard [x3]
Ah... I work out

When I walk in GamesWorkshop (yeah), this is what I see (ok)
Everybody stops drybrushing and starts staring at me
I got passion in my pants and I ain't afraid to show it, show it, show it, show it

I'm sexy and immortal

Author:  throughsilver [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 19:32 ]
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The robot has aged.

Author:  Malc74 [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 20:05 ]
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I still maintain that Series 8 was excellent. Series 7 was, indeed, mostly clever-clever sci-fi with a couple of average jokes thrown in.
The Dave specials were mainly forgettable.

I wonder when this will make it over to maple syrup land.

Author:  Malc [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:16 ]
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A bit cringy at first, but a few lol moments!

will keep watching!

Malc

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:19 ]
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Brevik was funnier.

This is fucking shit.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:32 ]
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"We hosed him down and gave him a hat"

Funniest bit yet

Author:  Malc [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:40 ]
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at least 5 laugh out loud moments, a few chuckles, and the odd smirk. Lots of stuff that didn't work, and the laughter seemed more like a track than live!

Malc

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:53 ]
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Kryten's eyes looked really saggy, you can tell Robert Llewellyn is older!

Pretty good, I thought. Not a patch on the original run, of course, but better than anything Series VIII had to offer at least. The first gag about the moose dragged on for far too long, but then paid off nicely later in the episode. Wasn't a huge fan of the beach ball reference, but it was generally well handled.

Slightly annoyed that they nerfed Howard though - it was pretty well established that Rimmer's brothers were successful.

Author:  Pod [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:55 ]
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Lister isn't funny any more.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 21:56 ]
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Pod wrote:
Lister isn't funny any more.


Saving lives is a serious business, young man.
/
Image

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 22:41 ]
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This is okay so far.

The time-traveling guy in the ad break who is trying to save the world from Dave in the future is my mate Henry from school.

Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 22:44 ]
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Yoks to obscure US Civil War in-joke from Kern, there. :D

As for Red Dwarf, I'm not going to bother watching it. It's tired. And I hate the fans.

Red Dwarf is to sci-fi comedy what Last of the Summer Wine is to Alan Bennet.

Author:  Four_Candles [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 22:55 ]
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Far more enjoyable than I thought it would be - more please!

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 04, 2012 22:56 ]
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The star field over the end credits was very pretty.
That wasn't bad at all.

Author:  Nemmie [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:55 ]
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Re: Grant and Naylor

Yeah one of them lost interest but still went on to write his own continuation of the story when he couldn't make a living elsewhere.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:42 ]
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I sometimes think I get different programs beamed into my TV to other people.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:10 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I sometimes think I get different programs beamed into my TV to other people.

Fuck! He's onto us again!

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:19 ]
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I thought the humour was quite light for an opening episode considering the obvious pressure on it to be a return to former glories. If they've got better stuff under their belt I'd have preferred they'd put their best foot forward.

The story wasn't that great either what with the reveal that the mechanoid had killed the other crew with very little foreshadowing.

Plus, I didn't understand the relevance of the green tube thing. There was a suggestion that they could zoom light years across the galaxy with it and that was probably what happened when Rimmer reinserted it but no one said anything after the black out to the effect that that was what had happened or why the Red Dwarf would have been towed along with it.

Unless I missed summats. Which wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:22 ]
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I believe the implication was that Howard's ship was zoomed across the galaxy to their ship, although that makes little sense either.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:26 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I believe the implication was that Howard's ship was zoomed across the galaxy to their ship, although that makes little sense either.

Howard zoomed to Rimmer, I figured.

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:37 ]
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MaliA wrote:
I sometimes think I get different programs beamed into my TV to other people.


I often think this when Dr Who is on.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:52 ]
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I was a bit confuddled about where they are now. Are they still in deep space, millions of years from anything? If so, how could they receive a letter from Space Corps? Or order a Stirmaster?

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:53 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I believe the implication was that Howard's ship was zoomed across the galaxy to their ship, although that makes little sense either.


Y'see, maybe I wasn't listening intently to the science. I thought the green rod pulled the ship places not visa versa. I'd watch the science speech again but I've deleted it now. Tch.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:30 ]
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Why are people expecting a level of internal logic from Red Dwarf X that was never present before? It's no more consistent than the various versions of The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy are. It's always been that way, so I see no need to berate the new series for more of the same.

Edit -- for example, the huge break in continuity between S1-2 and S3, explained via timey-wimey stuff: http://www.reviewsbygavrielle.com/dwarf3.shtml

Author:  CraigGrannell [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:35 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I was a bit confuddled about where they are now. Are they still in deep space, millions of years from anything? If so, how could they receive a letter from Space Corps? Or order a Stirmaster?

Because it's a sit-com set in outer space.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:40 ]
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A sit-com where the 'sit' is four misfits lost in space. Or a meringue?

Author:  Malc [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 13:26 ]
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a sit com where the company that made Kryten was able to send a replacement, where the electric company was able to track down lister to give him a bill.

If you want to be picky, the telesales thing was manned by driods, and they mentioned that a few times.

We've already seen that droids can last a very long time in the dwarf universe, so it's ok.

Malc

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 13:52 ]
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Both the Kryten Replacement and the leccy bill (in a mail pod) were explicitly stated to have been tracking Red Dwarf for a long time. The stirmaster was less annoying that the letter from Space Corps.

It just bothers me that if they're going to abandon the basic framework of a show that I have loved, they could at least handwave it quickly.

Author:  Malc [ Fri Oct 05, 2012 14:08 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Both the Kryten Replacement and the leccy bill (in a mail pod) were explicitly stated to have been tracking Red Dwarf for a long time. The stirmaster was less annoying that the letter from Space Corps.

It just bothers me that if they're going to abandon the basic framework of a show that I have loved, they could at least handwave it quickly.


I thought it came from the space corp computer (internal mail)

Malc

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