Be Excellent To Each Other

I hope it did. I must have missed that.

Phew, all is right in the world.

And to be fair, they've done that sort of thing a bunch of times.

I think the changes is setting could (and, somewhere, were) by them deciding as the entire ship was now theirs, they could move into the officers' quarters instead of the enlisted quarters where the first two series were.

The other personality changes... well, Rimmer became noticeably less smeggy from start to finish of Series 1 and continued in Series 2. He was initially still trying to assert himself over Lister but without the officers to back up his authoritah I think he gradually realized the fruitlessness of it all and instead dedicated himself to maintaining order and discipline indirectly. Lister likewise accepts that they're on an adventure (with reaching Earth the overall goal not the obsession) and without Rimmer riding him constantly can mellow out. And the Cat.... well, the Cat was raised almost in isolation, so finally being part of a proper social group has allowed him to develop emotionally.

I'm not sure about Kryten having a 'Canadian' accent, unless he's meant to be from some isolated island off Newfoundland or something.





Hang on, they used the electric company joke again (remember the NorWeb Federation?) only this time it was real? The mail pods cropped up several times in series 1 and 2 as the ship slowed down/turned around and the pods finally caught up.

I'm writing to inform you that your father is dad. Er, well of course he is?

It was a tax bill, not a leccy bill, IIRC

Lister ends S2 pregnant. He starts S3 not pregnant. Kryten has left the ship but randomly re-appears. I'd like to see you retcon that one away with this sort of logic.

(Explanation is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dad_(Red_Dwarf) but the more meaningful explanation is because Red Dwarf has never given a toss about continuity.)

No, it was an electric bill. Lister left a few dollarpounds in his bank account and thanks to compound interest now owns 98% of the world's wealth. The other 2% were owned by the NorWeb Federation because he left a light on in the bathroom. They were coming to obtain payment for the bill and also get Lister for his crimes against humanity (he left two half-eaten German sausages on a plate in his kitchen which now covered much of the Earth's surface)

The tax bill was delivered in the mail pod that brought them Better Than Life, and Rimmer's 'issues' caused him to fantasize about a tax collector coming to get him in the game.



You're so determined to be contrary you're dismissing the official explanation given at the start of the episode as being unreasonable! In a show where they crossed into a parallel universe, met female versions of themselves and Lister became pregnant by his female counterpart! Where mutated disease cause Lister's fever dreams to come to life! Where a single pregnant cat provided a viable breeding stock for an entire species over three million years!

I thought he lived in a luggage locker - how could he have had a kitchen?

I believe this simply proves my point, which is that Red Dwarf has regularly fucked about with its continuity with only the barest of hand waved explanations. I remind you the official explanation scrolls past (deliberately) too fast to be read, so viewers are actually totally in the dark as to why Lister is no longer pregnant or Kryten has reappeared. There's no continuity errors in this new show even half as jarring as that.

Lest we forget, continuity is so bad in Red Dwarf that it gave rise to The Red Dwarf Plot Inconsistencies Project.

Didn't an episode of Futurama end with Fry having been fired from his delivery boy job by his own great great (&c) nephew and had been dropped out of the ship to his death via trap door, and yet in the next episode was back working for Planet Express as if nothing had happened?

Not unlike the Itchy and Scratchy cartoons where Itchy ripped out Scratchy's lungs yet in the next scene Scratchy was shown breathing, or where Itchy played Scratchy's lungs like a xylophone striking the same rib twice yet producing two clearly distinct notes.

Meats, you've started arguing on one side, then have somehow segued onto the other but you're still arguing.

I'm trying to work out to what degree of consistency DocG holds his sci-fi comedy serieseseseseseseses.

I don't care about it, and I don't think anyone else should either.

The leccy bill was a joke by Holly and never really existed. And the tax bill was Rimmer's anyway.

Shut up.

I thought it was surprisingly good. Not as funny as 'Modern Family', which we watched beforehand, but far, far better than I expected.

I particularly liked the moose question.

So, this is what the Doctor Who thread looks like to people who don't watch or like Dr. Who. Crikey.

Has anyone read the books? Or listened to the Audio tapes? They explain a few things too. Although they're like a parallel universe too.

EDIT: although the last time I heard them it was 17 years ago or something so I might be mistaken.

I quite enjoyed it. That's all.

Yeah, the books are off on their own tangent, with numerous differences from the TV series. Then, just to confuse things further, Grant & Naylor wrote completely different, separate Red Dwarf novels following on from their last joint one after they split.

I have the tapes somewhere, it's quite jarring hearing Chris Barrie doing all the voices.

I'd image he does them quite well. Are the tapes just him reading the books?

Yeah, I have the tapes (somewhere!) and Barrie's impersonations are spot on.

The first Red Dwarf novel I still really, really like. It's great. Really fleshes out the RD universe (or at least a universe based on series 1 and 2 of the TV show, but in its own separate continuity). The second book's quite good in parts, but really nosedives during the last third of the book, with too much dialogue and events taken from episode scripts only minutely changed.

I thought the first episode of the new series was great, but I'm not sure how much of that was due to my expectations being so very low.

I had low expectations for the Blade Runner thing, and yet I was still shocked by just how bad it was.

I thought this was entertaining/10. Would watch again.

I hated Back to Earth the first time I saw it, but I watched it again the other week and found it to be quite entertaining. I think it's because the first time around I was expecting more Red Dwarf, whereas this time I came to it after completely forgetting what it was all about.

Much better 2nd episode.

Yep that was pretty fun.

I'm quite astonished by saying this but thus far, this is the best series of red dwarf for about half its run.

Well that's odd.

American edition of the novel drawn by an artist who had the situation described to him over the phone?

I've still only got round to seeing the first one of these. Are the others any good?

What, the new series? I really enjoyed the first two shows. The third wasn't so good for me but was nonetheless still entertaining. We've also been watching the reruns at the same time, and I think they all feel pretty similar—in other words, on watching the first two shows, they didn't feel much different from RD IV and V episodes.

Two more series to come next year.

So Red Dwarf 14 has started.

It was okay.

I really wasn't keen.

I still haven't watched the last series. I used to be such a big fan.

The last thing I watched was Back to Earth