In the adverts I've seen for online, you can do missions with your buddy. I've played a tiny bit and it keeps giving me things to do on my own.

At what point can my mate and I just wander about and blow shit up, ignoring missions and the stupid man who keeps making me do things?

I want to buy tanks and fancy cars and stuff, but I can't see how I can amass several million dollars very easily. Help me Obi Wan Kenobi.

You need to do the final heist - then each character will get around $20m.

Hmm. Once I've done that, given that I have no more assasination missions left, what other source of large income is there?

You need to do the final heist - then each character will get around $20m.

Right, I'm about half way through, but none of my characters have amassed more than about $0.5m at any one time. Almost every single heist so far has either been (a) to pay off someone else or (b) if it's a Trevor one, resulting in zero cash income. I've invested in some properties but seeing as the income is per week I don't seem to be seeing much out of it.

Just imagine what they're going to be able to do with The Infinite Power Of The Cloud :tm:

I was never short of a few pennies and I didn't do any stock exchange stuff or any of the tennis/racing/whatever stuff. I did piss my cash on weapons constantly though so

Can you afford to buy the golf club?

Malc

It's one of the worst investments apparently if you are looking for a return.

I'm looking at getting to 100% and presume I need to buy all the properties.
Malc

Nope. Check the Social Club website to see what you need to '100%' the game. Only items that have a coloured strip against them count towards the 100%.

For example, you only need half the knife flights and stunt jumps. I didn't even start Michael's Epsilon Program story arc until after I'd 'finished' the game.

I remember you saying that at the cottage, I thought when I looked, you needed to buy all the properties.

I must have misread.

Malc

Can you afford to buy the golf club?

Malc

I discovered that by getting in a train with enough ammo you can keep it going pretty much forever, then lose them all again by jumping out in a long tunnel.

GTA 5 simply didn't run very well on PS3 or 360.

I'm all over the PC version once it gets to about £20.

So within a few weeks of launch, then.

but it was clearly the game's ambition far exceeding the ability of its host machine

"Ambition far exceeding the ability of it's host machine". Total bollocks.

I know we've been over and over this, but speaking as someone with a decent enough PC to play games on well, and knowing that you're absolutely right about games generally looking and playing much better on PC - statements like this are just clear nonsense. It's like you're making out the game is unplayable on PS3 and Xbox 360, when that objectively is not the case. Not even nearly.

I don't doubt GTA V will be a much nicer experience on a well-specced PC (although GTA IV for the PC was an absolute mess at launch) - but the experience was already pretty damn wonderful on both PS3 and Xbox 360. A slightly improved framerate and graphical niceties will just be the cherry on an already quite awesome cake.

"Ambition far exceeding the ability of it's host machine". Total bollocks.

The Eurogamer article I linked to above is very blunt, and simply states - 'GTA 5 simply didn't run very well on PS3 or 360.' And that's my feelings on it too.

But you've only played it on the 360.

But you've only played it on the 360.

I've not played the 360 version but the PS3 is a dream. There's very little slow down that I noticed and, at times, it was running lightning fast.

It was obviously pushing the hardware to its limits (much like San Andreas did), but it was eminently playable or else I wouldn't have sunk 120 hrs+ into it.

So we're all agreed that GTA5 was very impressive on PS3 and 360 and will probably be far better on PC / PS4 / XBone?

Good.