Being Nice about Rev Stu thread

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14359

They've got tariffs for all the offences. Do this get between X & Y and pay A, B & C.

I'm amused that the victim in this case got a £20 victim surcharge. Probably due to all the inconvenience of prosecuting someone for stealing some mars bars. Tch.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Louisa Sewell, 32, Comberton Road, Kidderminster

Louise Sewell, 32, Comberton Road, Kidderminster

Not conclusive that it is the same person, no. And I still disagree with the fine received if this woman was genuinely so hungry that she simply needed to eat (for which we have her word), but really I do understand that sometimes prosecutors, police, courts etc have access to information above what we have, such as prior cases and convictions, such as the information as to why this woman's benefits were sanctioned in the first place, as well as many other things.

In my own conclusion:
1) I don't think this case should have gone to court.
2) But I accept that I really don't know the whole story and there may have ben an obligation o take it to court due to previous offences.
3) I also acknowledge that we don't know the background of why the woman was in this position (why her benefits were sanctioned).
4) We only have the press reports which will pick and choose facts for a story, obviously.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Maybe Stu is being so nice to her because she was stealing the Mars Bars to make his famous sandwich.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

I had no idea that you could even buy four Mars bars for 75p. I thought that they cost about that much each, now.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16560

It's probably one of those pound shop type deals where they're all a bit smaller than the proper size ones.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

Also, Heron Foods.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon Aug 17, 2015 13:44

DavPaz wrote:

Also, Heron Foods.

Nah, they prefer fish.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

markg wrote:

It's probably one of those pound shop type deals where they're all a bit smaller than the proper size ones.

Yes, that's probably very much part of the price point, still quite impressive, though.

I've not heard of Heron Foods, but I assume they are a bit like that Farmfoods place. I think we've been in there twice to get milk. The same group of little lads were in there both times, openly stealing. The second time they were shoving an entire massive frozen turkey into a giant rucksack. The turkey was bigger than the lad carrying it, like some strange Dickensian parody. The staff didn't care, though.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14359

I've always bemoaned that chocolate bars have been getting smaller over the ears and then I heard some guy at some institution (I can't remember which) who was bragging about how they had successfully managed to reduce portion sizes over the years. So now you know it was that shit who was responsible for the smaller sized everything at a greater cost. It's like the fat tax has already been implemented.

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Aug 17, 2015 14:05

Saturnalian wrote:

I've always bemoaned that chocolate bars have been getting smaller over the ears and then I heard some guy at some institution (I can't remember which) who was bragging about how they had successfully managed to reduce portion sizes over the years. So now you know it was that shit who was responsible for the smaller sized everything at a greater cost. It's like the fat tax has already been implemented.

It is called value engineering .

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14359

This morning on the radio it was called a diabetic epidemic.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Mon Aug 17, 2015 14:41

Saturnalian wrote:

This morning on the radio it was called a diabetic epidemic.

Yes we are contagious.

MaliA · **Posted:** Wed Aug 19, 2015 7:13

Saturnalian wrote:

I tell you what could work:

The police who arrested her could have let her go with a caution. It's 75p. SEVENTY FIVE PENCE.

How many minor offences are dealt with by caution where the costs of prosecution are disproportionate to the offence being committed? A shit ton. Statistically speaking, that is.

MEANWHILE IN BRADFORD

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although we have clear CCTV footage, the police come back and say the value of the products taken is not enough for them to take it any further.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

I wonder if there'd be any legal ramifications by, on the back of the publicity garnered by that story, the shop published the CCTV footage online (specifically Facebook) of all the incidents of theft by these kids?

Local residents would surely recognise them and the news get back to the parents (especially as people hate takes of police inaction), but that might invite more trouble from the parents themselves, depending on what kind of people they are. And I'm not sure what legal issues there might be in releasing CCTV footage, especially of minors. Hmm...

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

15k now.

And one feels the Independent doesn't realise he's not a real reverend.

Independent

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The Reverend Stuart Campbell, who lives over 90 miles away in Bath, has set up an Indiegogo fundraising page as a “small gesture of solidarity” to help her pay the fines.

BertyBasset · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 334

Findus Fop wrote:

15k now.

And one feels the Independent doesn't realise he's not a real reverend.

Independent

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The Reverend Stuart Campbell, who lives over 90 miles away in Bath, has set up an Indiegogo fundraising page as a “small gesture of solidarity” to help her pay the fines.

He's a "church leader" apparently :

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pe ... ed-6256306

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Hahahahahaha!

HAHAHAHA!

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

Someone should give the papers links to his other words of inspiration, godly as they are.

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

BertyBasset wrote:

Stu set this up yesterday :

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-sm ... ity#/story

That's a nice thing isn't it ?

Ha!

A nice thing would have been paying the money himself. But no, get the daft nationalist cunts to pay for it and he doesn't have to put a penny in and gets all the credit anyway. Genius! More money for his own mars bars. What a saint.

Achilles · **Joined:** 15th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 484

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Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

I have no recollection making this thread and it's 8 years old and rocking. It even has a post by Cavey a page or so back that I thoroughly agree with. Nuts.

Achilles · **Joined:** 15th Nov, 2008 **Posts:** 484

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romanista · **Posted:** Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:17

Mimi wrote:

I've not heard of Heron Foods, but I assume they are a bit like that Farmfoods place. I think we've been in there twice to get milk. The same group of little lads were in there both times, openly stealing. The second time they were shoving an entire massive frozen turkey into a giant rucksack. The turkey was bigger than the lad carrying it, like some strange Dickensian parody. The staff didn't care, though.

you're sure the Turkey wasn't stealing the lad?

myp · **Posted:** Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:33

Still laughing at 'local church leader'.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:53

Holy shit there was a lot of anger yesterday!

JohnCoffey · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:30

Kern · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 13:22

Sturgeon's slapdown of online trolling made the BBC News website.

Quote:

Ms Sturgeon did not make reference to any one tweet or tweeter.

However, in one strand the independence-supporter tweeting as Wings Over Scotland questioned the right of the author JK Rowling to support the Scotland team because she helped fund the pro-Union Better Together campaign.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

What a colossal prick.

JohnCoffey · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 13:44

Mr Kissyfur wrote:

What a colossal prick.

Most of the people I grew up with on the internet so to speak have all really changed and grown up and matured. You should have seen Hearthly at his best..

But yes, they've all really grown up now, formed their own lives and moved forward.

Stu on the other hand? hasn't changed one bit from the first time I ever came across his rantings on the internet well over a decade ago. He's still, as you say, a colossal prick.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

People change because of people.

I'm just saying.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16560

I think regardless of who they know most people generally get a bit less arrogant as they get older don't they? I mean it's fairly normal to go around thinking you're especially special and clever when you're fifteen or so but it's not really an appealing quality in an adult. It also leads you to some erroneous conclusions if you decide that anyone who ever disagrees with you is wrong.

JohnCoffey · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 14:26

markg wrote:

I think regardless of who they know most people generally get a bit less arrogant as they get older don't they? I mean it's fairly normal to go around thinking you're especially special and clever when you're fifteen or so but it's not really an appealing quality in an adult. It also leads you to some erroneous conclusions if you decide that anyone who ever disagrees with you is wrong.

His sheer will power impresses me.

How you could be a prick for so long without ever having one of those look in the mirror moments and a fucking good cringe is beyond me.

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

I was calling him an enormous fucking prick long before it was fashionable. To think a lot of you used to give him money to not write shitty articles about video games. Baffling.

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

The Mensch has caught on to the fact that this brave patriotic Scot loves Scotland so much that he lives in Bath, meanwhile Stu is acting like he's the poor victim against the might of the world's billionaires. A true people's hero.

And to think this dicksplash once called me a ticking timebomb. This is serious popcorn fodder.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

He thinks Rowling was "rude" to him, after he told her to fuck off out of Scotland?

It's a bit sad, really. But funny.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 22:17

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

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Jeeesus

TheVision · **Posted:** Mon Oct 19, 2015 23:47

I think I'm really quite pleased the "no" vote won because I imagine that really got under Stu's skin.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

DavPaz wrote:

People change because of people.

I'm just saying.

I agree! For example, if you take someone who's unpleasant and give them an army of nodding sycophants with deep pockets, it makes them more unpleasant.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2015 8:40

As this is the being nice thread, I'd just like to say that being dissed by a celebrity is a 'win' in my book. But trolling them is a self-inflicted wound, so -4 points for the Rev.

I'm hoping that in a future straight-to-DVD 'Harry Potter and the obvious cash-in' there's a short interlude where a grumpy Scottish priest gets mauled by sadistic bears.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

I think it is OK to have opinions on the country you are from without residing in. That's the position I am in!

But! Building a career on sticking up for that country, when you have voluntarily moved away from it years ago, is a little misguided.

Then throwing around unfounded accusations that others have abandoned that same country, when they still live there, is foolish.

Even if you wanted to do all these things, they are possible to do without being a massive arsehole about it.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:19

I just sneaked a peak at his feed. He's still at it. At which point should we start getting concerned about his mental state?

myp · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:20

Kern wrote:

I just sneaked a peak

*Stealth Mountains you*

myp · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:21

Kern wrote:

At which point should we start getting concerned about his mental state?

Implying someone has mental health issues because they are constantly angry and horrible is not cool, imo.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16560

Kern wrote:

I just sneaked a peak at his feed.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Future Warrior wrote:

Kern wrote:

At which point should we start getting concerned about his mental state?

Implying someone has mental health issues because they are constantly angry and horrible is not cool, imo.

I read Kern's post as being about the physiological toll of constant anger and stress rather than psychological problems.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:37

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Future Warrior wrote:

Kern wrote:

At which point should we start getting concerned about his mental state?

Implying someone has mental health issues because they are constantly angry and horrible is not cool, imo.

I read Kern's post as being about the physiological toll of constant anger and stress rather than psychological problems.

Ah, ok.

-edit- I think 'health' would have been better than 'mental state', personally.

Cavey · **Posted:** Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:58

Apparently Stu's made the leading article in today's Times!

JBR · **Joined:** 2nd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 3214

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The cause of Scottish nationalism inspires impassioned debate. It is dismaying when that passion takes the form of online abuse, such as that suffered by the author JK Rowling when she tweeted her support for the Scottish rugby team during their recent heartbreak in the world cup quarter finals. Nicola Sturgeon, the first minister of Scotland, is right publicly to condemn such abuse and point out that those who do not support independence are not anti-Scottish.
Chief among Rowling’s abusers was Stuart Campbell, a former video games journalist, leading cybernat and long-term resident of Bath, in Somerset. He questioned Rowling’s right to support Scotland “because you don’t think we’re a nation at all”, a reference to her support for the Better Together campaign. As a political argument, telling your opponents where to go is less than sophisticated. Having suffered appalling trolling as a major donor to Better Together, Rowling is experienced at dealing with it. She responded crisply that having lived and paid tax in Scotland for more than 20 years, she was well aware that Scotland was a nation. It was, she added, a country to which she had contributed more than bile.
Ms Sturgeon is a keen user of social media and has said that she believes it democratises public debate. However, this is not the first time she has had to distance herself from the more fervent cybernat trolls. In June she pledged to discipline them if necessary. During the general election she was forced to deny any association with Wings Over Scotland, the blog written by Mr Campbell. A year on from the Scottish independence referendum, it is worth reiterating that, as JK Rowling proves, support for the Union is perfectly compatible with being a patriotic Scot. The vitriol thrown by Mr Campbell and his ilk at those who disagree has no place in society or online.

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

Apparently this is now all a conspiracy by JK Rowling to increase sales for her new book.

I mean, that's fucking clever isn't it? Saying 'Well done Scotland' on twitter was QUITE the shrewd opening play in this comical PR stunt.

Let's not make any bones about it. This cunt is slated to die young. Propensity for continuous rage and anger, sits at a computer 18 hours a day eating crisps, sweets and venting bile? Casual gambler? Scottish to boot? I give him 5 years before a coronary.

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