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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 13:55 
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I mean this post to be helpful, so hopefully you're not all going to call me a cunt for pointing stuff out. I don't think BETEO is doomed or anything, but its current problems won't go away until there's a clearly-defined vision. As a short-term fix, I would strongly suggest that sub-forums are your friend.


I was dead against sub-forums at first, but I think it'd probably be a good idea, at least in the short term. Dimrill's icons are quite splendid, but if there was even a split of "Games" and "Other stuff" it might help.

I know there's a lot going on being the scenes, like Richard Gaywood working on the site, and I do appreciate the time that everyone's given up, but the lack of focus is making BETEO less enticing. I know I don't post much, so you'd be within your rights to tell me to fuck off, but it's just something I've been feeling for a while. I'm still going to post here and on WoS with the same (lack of) frequency, but I hope BETEO is going to become the special thing that it promised to be.

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I don't like the enforcing of a purpose. I don't get together with my friends in a pub and say "Now when we're sitting at this table we talk about games, if you want to talk about trees go over there to the other side of the bar".

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"World of Cuddles"

Bruce and Stu are a lot closer than either would admit aren't they?

I still read it every day and still find him interesting, I just don't admire him anywhere near as much as I used to.


Virtually identical in fact, except Stu is smarter. Much smarter, that's damned quick thinking to replace his World of CUS jibe although he somehow still thinks CUS ordered people here, rather than just happening to be the guy who had a forum already there.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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ChocoboOfDoom wrote:
As a short-term fix, I would strongly suggest that sub-forums are your friend.


We discussed this and decided that it wasn't the way to go. Where were you when these discussions took place?


Fuck knows. It probably dropped off the front page after six minutes following a deluge of Eastenders threads, which is the kind of thing that happens in busy forums that don't have sub-forums.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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@ ChocoboOfDoom: I know what you are saying but we discussed sub forums previously and the majority of us where against it.

When the main site is up and running I think we should put it to the vote again.

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I can't help thinking that having a forum and then putting together a website to base it on some months later is rather like building a house and then trying to dig foundations underneath it. We may well end up covered in fallen masonry. Or something.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I can't help thinking that having a forum and then putting together a website to base it on some months later is rather like building a house and then trying to dig foundations underneath it. We may well end up covered in fallen masonry. Or something.


No, masons get offed early.

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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ChocoboOfDoom wrote:
myoptika wrote:
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As a short-term fix, I would strongly suggest that sub-forums are your friend.


We discussed this and decided that it wasn't the way to go. Where were you when these discussions took place?


Fuck knows. It probably dropped off the front page after six minutes following a deluge of Eastenders threads, which is the kind of thing that happens in busy forums that don't have sub-forums.


We had it pinned for a while. My point is that quite a few people have come on here recently saying this place isn't what they want it to be, yet they're the same people who haven't visited in ages.

If you want to change it, post some threads you find interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Tmuk wrote:
I can't help thinking that having a forum and then putting together a website to base it on some months later is rather like building a house and then trying to dig foundations underneath it. We may well end up covered in fallen masonry. Or something.
Alternatively, putting together a website without the community to write things for it is like moving into a house before you buy any furniture.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I can't help thinking that having a forum and then putting together a website to base it on some months later is rather like building a house and then trying to dig foundations underneath it. We may well end up covered in fallen masonry. Or something.


Except without the danger and with fun and informative stuff instead of bricks?

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Even if things are allowed to fall and even with the traffic spike recently it still takes 2 full days for anything to drop off page 1 after it's stop receiving any posts at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Tmuk wrote:
I can't help thinking that having a forum and then putting together a website to base it on some months later is rather like building a house and then trying to dig foundations underneath it. We may well end up covered in fallen masonry. Or something.
Alternatively, putting together a website without the community to write things for it is like moving into a house before you buy any furniture.


And hitting the reply button without having an appropriate analogy to hand is like.. oh, bugger.

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I think the site should help to complement the forum - it'll give people the outlet to see their reviews and whatever else they care to knock up. For the users who aren't interested in that bit they can just carry on posting as normal. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I don't like the enforcing of a purpose. I don't get together with my friends in a pub and say "Now when we're sitting at this table we talk about games, if you want to talk about trees go over there to the other side of the bar".

Trousers wrote:
"World of Cuddles"

Bruce and Stu are a lot closer than either would admit aren't they?

I still read it every day and still find him interesting, I just don't admire him anywhere near as much as I used to.


Virtually identical in fact, except Stu is smarter. Much smarter, that's damned quick thinking to replace his World of CUS jibe although he somehow still thinks CUS ordered people here, rather than just happening to be the guy who had a forum already there.


Down, Dudley! Down!
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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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devilman wrote:
richardgaywood wrote:
Tmuk wrote:
I can't help thinking that having a forum and then putting together a website to base it on some months later is rather like building a house and then trying to dig foundations underneath it. We may well end up covered in fallen masonry. Or something.
Alternatively, putting together a website without the community to write things for it is like moving into a house before you buy any furniture.


And hitting the reply button without having an appropriate analogy to hand is like.. oh, bugger.


Yeah, ditto!
I don't know. It's an interesting way of going about things I suppose. I just hope we don't rupture a gas main, that's all.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I don't know. It's an interesting way of going about things I suppose. I just hope we don't rupture a gas main, that's all.
My worry is: have we gone and fitted two inch sewer pipe under a building that has five inch toilets?


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Down, Dudley! Down!
/smacks on slobbering, well-chained head.


Hey, as long as he wants to be amusingly bruce like I'll point out we were, in fact, at war with Eurasia.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Tmuk wrote:
I don't know. It's an interesting way of going about things I suppose. I just hope we don't rupture a gas main, that's all.
My worry is: have we gone and fitted two inch sewer pipe under a building that has five inch toilets?


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What cowboy do you get in 'ere, then?
I sadly have not yet seen the film I modified the above quote from -- Kenny, about an Austrailian plumber who specialises in sewerage for open-air festivals. However I do know it has another fried gold quote: "we've got a smell down here that's gonna outlast religion".


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'fried gold' being a simon pegg-originated phrase. Was never keen on it myself.

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'fried gold' being a simon pegg-originated phrase.
Yeah, I know. I like it.


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Or something Australians have been saying for years. You choose!

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Or something Australians have been saying for years. You choose!
I thought Nick Frost invented "fried gold"? Or are you talking about the other quotes?


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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I'm kind of glad he banned Dudley, so Dudley can give us his full attention now :kiss:


I think we should ban Dudley just for old times sake. He's done nothing wrong, but that makes it in keeping with the "old days".


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Well that explains why I was mysteriously logged out when I clicked my link just now.


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 Post subject: Re: Ram Raider
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Again, if twenty seven new threads don't keep you happy, you really can't just not read this one.
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To be fair, Dudley, that's a little like telling someone there's plenty of pavement for them to walk on while letting your dog coil one off on the footpath.

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Again, if twenty seven new threads don't keep you happy, you really can't just not read this one.
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To be fair, Dudley, that's a little like telling someone there's plenty of pavement for them to walk on while letting your dog coil one off on the footpath.


Now that's a corker. :DD

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Well that explains why I was mysteriously logged out when I clicked my link just now.


Indeed. So remember that if you behave yourself in the future, you may get a banning for no reason. It's called "retro".


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Again, if twenty seven new threads don't keep you happy, you really can't just not read this one.
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To be fair, Dudley, that's a little like telling someone there's plenty of pavement for them to walk on while letting your dog coil one off on the footpath.


It's more like if 28 roads from your house all go directly to work, but you complain because number 29 instead goes to Grimsby rather than just using one of the other 28.


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Pretty sure I was complaining about this sort of thing the other day.


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We ARE 5 pages into a thread created largely because we were being trolled.


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It's a thread about RAM Raider. It was turned into a thread about trolling because somebody posted a slightly off topic reply.


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It's a thread about RAM Raider. It was turned into a thread about trolling because somebody posted a slightly off topic reply.


THAT IS THE WAY OF THINGS

ALL THREADS TURN TO SHIT

THIS THREAD HAS

BUT TALKING SHIT IS BETTER THAN MOANING ABOUT INTERNET HISTORY

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Quick! Make BETEO more how Jonarob likes it!

Re: An earlier query:- The whole RAM Raider=Daniel Emery thing came about because Emery wrote a review of some Outrun game that Stu disagreed with, and Rammy stuck up for it. And then came onto WoS and protested too much about not being Emery. So the assumption sort of stuck.

Rammy needs to drop the "best looking journalists" thing, as it's pretty tedious. Actually, most of his site is now. It started out fair enough, but is now (perhaps like most things) essentially just repeating what the reader already knows - in this case about how biased the computer mag industry is.

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I think it'd be pretty good round here if we made it how I like it.


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I think it'd be pretty good round here if we made it how I like it.


That's kind of a tautology, though.

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