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Did you enjoy it?

Yep! Hey, I could properly write some stuff in the relevant thread and everything couldn't I? Buckle up...

Good, wunnit?

Did anyone saw Conan O'Brian review of the game?? I love his "reviews" but this was the most hilarious so far.

http://teamcoco.com/video/clueless-gamer-conan-obrien-reviews-tomb-raider

Anybody else got this? I picked it up yesterday and played for a couple of hours. Really enjoying it so far, although it isn't really a Tombraiding puzzle solving game yet. The art and characterisation/dialogue however is fantastic.
Also, what age is Lara meant to be in this please?

17.

Grauniad review suggest not a lot of problem solving but more survival.

Where are you getting the 17 from ?

I've not seen age quoted but she's suppose to have just finished her degree which i would have thought made her very early 20's ?

This page http://laracroft.wikia.com/wiki/Tomb_Raider_%282013%29 gives her age as 21 which sounds about right to me

The reviews generally say the only problem solving is in the tombs themselves or for some of the traversal of the map , but pretty much every review i've seen has been really positive overall.

I may grab it at the weekend since Game have an offer of the special (game exclusive) edition for £1 if you trade in any 2 of

Resident Evil 6
Borderlands 2
Halo 4
BLOPS2
Farcry 3
DMC

I have Resi6 on disk and bought it through the games on demand sale , and if i trade in the copy of halo 4 i have then i can pick up another for £18 from Amazon which means that Tombraider will cost me £19 plus Resi6 :-)


Game page : http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores ... tombraider

I dunno. My brain told me. I might have read it somewhere or something a while back.

I was quite heavily put off by the RPS 'review'.

According to this she's 21.

ETA: Here's a better source as it's an article from the game's writer.

Phew, I was worried I couldn't knock one out for a minute there...

I can cope with 21.

Dissapointed there won't be more puzzles like other Tomb Raiders but still very happy with the game as it continues the way it has started. It seems to have learnt from the example set by Uncharted and the relationship between the story and gameplay has been very impressive so far.

The RPS review and it's comments do make it sound like basically Uncharted 4. Which is fine, I like me some Uncharted, but the specific mix of puzzling and platforming that the last few Tomb Raider games provided were unique and I absolutely lapped it up so like you I'll be very disappointed if that's now gone forever with the reboot.

Enjoying this , although if Grim... picks it up he should be aware that he has a namesake and things are not looking good for him right now.

I've played a bit more now and my opinion of the game is only getting better. There are small puzzle sections in hidden tombs that you encounter and the rest of the island has plenty to explore, so for example last night I had to get to a specific area and could have taken a very direct route but instead I went a long way with lots of climbing, jumping and pulling things on ropes which meant I could explore more and find some collectibles.
As I think I've already mentioned, the characterisation and script is brilliant, I really like how they let the story unfold through events but also through snippets of overheard conversation if you hang back before killing guards, or items you find whilst exploring.
The graphics and Lara's movements are excellent, there have been a couple of times I've thought I'm in a cut scene only to discover I still have control of Lara or that the cut scene has ended and I'm back in control again.
I was surprised when I bought it to see it was an 18 but that's understandable now, I got a great delight from hearing Lara swear since it somehow seemed like a more authentic reaction to something and the overall feel of the game is quite creepy. There have been a few times when I've felt a bit scared or something has happened that's made me jump.
Overall thoughts so far, at maybe six hours in are that this game is easily the best new release in the last twelve months when literally nothing else has interested me and even my usual CoD devotion has been abandoned.
Now if they want to reboot the movie, with another sexy kickass woman running, jumping and climbing for ninety minutes, I'll have no objections

...with 'er out The Hunger Games in it.

Got this in the post from The Hut today, only played about 30 minutes, but really enjoying it so far.

Just picked it up from Asda, having popped in for milk
Oddly, I think this may actually be the first Tomb Raider game I've played, other than a couple of minutes here and there.

I loved this despite it being piss easy and much shorter than I thought it was going to be. It's just the Batman Arkham games but with cover shooting instead of fighting.

Fairly linear in structure, I thought it was going to be more open world but it does gave you areas to explore in to find collectables like the Arkham Asylum, and the pacing is pretty excellent, there always seems to be somewhere to go or something to do, then when you've had your fill of an area you do the next set piece and arrive at a new one. I really like the cover system, no pressing a button to click to it, the computer will automatically duck behind them, never seems like a hindrance either.

I suppose it's the one game where collectables make absolute perfect sense. How many hours will I get out of this?

Depends how you play it - i'm seeing 8 - 10 listed as a 'full' play , I've maybe put in about 7 on mainly the story and a few optional tombs and theres going to be at least one or two set pieces still to go , then there is the question of going back around the island to pick up all the artifacts you've not got / find the extra tombs that you missed / etc (I've actually just unlocked a skill which will show me where the hidden items are on the map and if anyone has finished the game i've just got the block and tackle so can say how much more there is to go).

There is also multiplayer but i've heard its pretty poor and if your an achievement junkie then theres probably quite a bit of grind in multiplayer to max the game (get to level 60 in multiplayer is one of the achievements)

I'd give it an optimistic 12 hours to complete it 100%. The multiplayer is ok I guess I've played it a bit to get a few more achievements before I send it back to lovefilm.

TOO MUCH SHOOTING. I can't even avoid some of it or go for stealthy bow kills -- it's foisted upon me. I simply HAVE to mow down hordes of guys. I never realised Lara was such a blood thirsty warrior.

I'm about to finish the radio tower and right now I'm preferring TR:Underworld (but once again: there was more than enough shooting in that). That had more jungle and more jumps, both of things I like in Tomb Raider games.


On the plus side, I prefer the shooting to the old TR style shooting where she'd auto lock on to something and you'd spend an hour backflipping over them dual-pistoling them to death because you want to save your shotgun ammo. Though my GF is finding it hard to aim. Does easy mod have any sort of auto aim?

I'm pretty much bow for everything except a few specific areas - even the hoards of people can be taken out with the bow - and i prefer it for close up work (you can get really quick and accurate with the bow and a bit of practice) - remember you can hold down RT to 'focus' the shot.

And yes she does kill a *lot* of people (last night i had the achievement pop for looting 200 bodies and that wont count all the others I've killed and failed to get to their corpses)

** edit - i should point out that i'm not using the bow for stealth in a lot of these place - just standing (or hiding) and taking them out with the bow while they are shooting machine gun shots at me)

I am really enjoying it. I don't think there is too much killing, I remember there being just as much in the other Tomb Raider game sI have played.

One thing really annoys me though.
I shoot a guard, with my bow when the other one is away. The otherone turns round, sees the body, and runs over to it.
I am hiding, and yet somehow he shouts 'She's here!' amd starts shooting at where I am! There is no way he saw me. It is really annoying, for if you're trying to be stealthy, you can't.

Does anyone know if Guardian of Light is any good? It's only 600 MS points just now. I'm considering getting it.

I enjoyed it. It's not a typical Tomb Raider game but it is good fun. I would buy it for that price.

What about Anniversary? It's 1040 MS Points. It's a Square Enix sale, so all the tomb raider stuff is on sale. I'm tempted to just buy it all

Oh! and all the DLC: 2 for underworld, 3 for Guardian of Light. Any of them any good?

Guardian of Light and the last three proper Tomb Raider games are all excellent. Don't buy the DLC for GoL though, it's piss awful.

Okay, thanks

I'd get GOL - think of it as a isometric version of Dead Ops arcade with an open world view

Cool, that sounds good. Is it co-op? If so, does anyone else have it?
Bamba - When you say 'the last 3' do you include Anniversary in that?

Yep, the entire game can be played either local co-op (both characters on the same playfield so it works very well that way) or over tinternet.




Aye, it's not quite as good as Legend/Underworld I didn't think but it's still excellent fun.

It's excellent. As is Underworld. Thailand looks nice and jungly, the exact type of place that makes you want to jump around on ledges and explore.

Completed - end was a little odd but meh I really enjoyed the rest of the game - 76% completed and i only finally upgraded the bow to max just as I hit the camp fire which says 'fast travel is no longer possible after this point' (to say its the final boss ahead)

I'll have a play around with multi player and go and do the other tombs

Just finished. (But apparently only 64% complete!) I really enjoyed the game, the combat was good, the story was good, as was the scenery. I am definately impressed with the game, and will probably be going through it trying to get all the optional tombs and colectables complete. I hope they continue to make more, and hopefully bring out some really good DLC. (Which I will probably buy.)

I agree with Zaphod, in that the ending was a little odd, but I still loved it.

There was a few things that could be better, including (but not limited to) the thing i mentioned about stealth kills futher up this page^^.
I didn't think the combat was too repetative - although, there are some points where you get ambushed, and the enemies seems to just keep coming and coming forever, that can get a little boring.

My favourite weapons were the bow and the Rifle. There are the weapons I used for the majority of the game. I used the bow at long range, and the rifle for short. I didn't really notice many of the upgrades making that big a difference, and I often could never find enough salvage (Although, probably my fault and not the games)

I kinda wish there had been a few more puzzles, to make it a bit more like older Tomb Raiders. I also wish ammo was not so easy to find - even just "sprayin' and prayin' " I never found myself short of ammo. Although some people might like this, I think ammo being a bit scarecer would have made you think more about the 'survival' part. If you had to conserve your ammo, and be careful not to waste it, that would have been cool.

Another thing - after the inital "OMG I NEED FOOD" you don't anymore, it would have been good if they had something that meant you HAD to hunt animals and you HAD to drink water. It's more a 'Shooter' than a Survival game, if you don't have to worry about ammo and such.

I've only had one game of multi-player so far, but I quite enjoyed it. I noticed some people saying that it wasn't very good, and I'm going to have to disagree. I would definately like to play more of the MP.

My score? 9.3/10. Apart from the things I mentioned about, absolutely excellent game.

Just walked into GAME asking about buying this for a quid and got mystified looks my way. No signs anywhere. Bad omen, that.

"Erm, yeah, I don't think we're doing that anymore"

"Resi 6 and Far Cry? I think Far Cry but it wasn't Resi 6. No, no, no."

I got the manager to check their promotions booklet and, yes, it's still on and I was right! Yay! Turns out I've got some money on my rewards card too and didn't need to spend a single penny.

Point is this: BEEX FUCKING ROCKS. I'd have never of known had it not been for Zaphod. I'm tremendously grateful and thank all the people who spend the time to bring these things to our attention. You are all excellent.

'cept for the cunts. Obv.

:-)

Offer is still on until the 18th if anyone else wants to pick up the game and it is on the website but it probably has enough weasel words in it to deny you if they really wanted

http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores ... tombraider

I never got asked for any of that junk. Yay me!

It's funny really.

There's no HUD at all which adds to the atmosphere so when it does pop up, all cool and funky and floaty, it's fucking irritating.

"You have XP!" But I only just walked forward until you ran a cut scene.

I'll just spend a couple of minutes getting this bow. "Bow acquired! New item!" I know.

"New Mission! Escape the Forest!" I know, she just said she wants to escape.

The floaty menus are too cool for school an' all. I can barely discern which way to scroll them. XP. Skill points. Hunter. Hunted. I can't tell if they're adding anything to the single player at the moment but they are unnecessarily distracting me from progressing the story and its weighing down the pace.

Still, it looks pretty...

The level design is really nice so far. Lots of nooks and crannies to weasel in and find junk.

Literally junk. I can't say I'm that bothered with kicking over 10 boxes to get enough scrap to "level up" the bow. I'm tired of XP and shit in a 'serious' campaign.

I've changed my mind about this. I like it. Lots. It's badass.

Mind you, 3 or 4 hours in and she's totally forgot she got impaled by a spike in the first 10 minutes and then got shot in the arm 20 minutes later.

There was a point about 1/2 way through when the enemies instead of shouting "she's here lets get her" switched to "argh - she's here - we need help" :-)

I'll look out for that.

I certainly won't need to look out for any 'falling down'-stuff events. It's verging on ridiculous the amount of times that's been overused.

The walk into the Chamber of Judgement was aces. Great atmosphere there. Shame there was no real danger of death.

Oof, and I love the Resi 4 style grisly deaths. TR is definately channelling the Resi 4 reboot.

There is a *lot* of Resi4 about the whole thing , even the main baddie walking with his staff thingy reminds me of Resi4

They've already released DLC! A map pack for MP with 3 (I think) maps

This single player campaign is brill.

I've not once been bored. I love playing it and I'm annoyed I've got to go to bed cause I wanna crack on. It's got a mix of some of my favourite games in there: it's started off all Resi 4, it's had a crack at some God of War bombast and now it's gone all Uncharted for a couple of hours (the shooting, not the climbing, although its got plenty of that too).

(The shooting is very similar to Uncharted too, but here it seems a tad more satisfying. A headshot is a headshot for instance. And whilst I was strictly about the bow it's done a Dead Space and dropped some cheevos for using the other weapons, so it's made me use them and now I'm swapping and changing from stealthy pistol shots to the head to gunning down the hoards at medium range and diving in to get as many shotty kills as I can for the cheevo. It's come at just the right time too since its throwing baddies at me to play with.)

It's done the unthinkable and made me want to collect stuff too since every now and again it'll give me a map which reveals their locations and, well, it'd be rude not to since the maps are so well designed. It's been playing on my Resi 4 obsession to kick as many barrels as I can for loot. I go looking around the map and when the secrets are revealed I'll spend some time mopping up the few I've missed. It's ace. But pointless. But I don't care. Shiny shiny.

The only thing I can possibly moan about is its too bloody easy. Maybe I should have gone in on hard level for a start, but it just wants me to enjoy it. And enjoy it I have. What a surprise TR has been. Fack all like the old ones - it needn't have bothered with the name really - but definately corking fun.

Holy shit, some of the weapons finishers are brutal.