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I may try and get a laptop sorted and work from the canteen this afternoon. This probably won't happen though.


I'll have to rely on the gruaniad live coverage (hopefully, it won't be the nitwit that won't publish the emails I dictate to MrsA to send him), Aunty or the Torygraph. I might, tomorrow, try and do a 7am-3pm dy so I don't miss to much when i get home and smack on ITV4.

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Shitty fucking cockballs. We're off to see MrsA's ex and his wife on Saturday, so i'll miss them going up and down the Champs Elysses. I'll push to put off going to this concert until after that, but I'll have to sit in their living room with cats.

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BMC have got a couple of riders three and a half minutes up the road already.

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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!

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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!


Cynically, I think that it's because there has been a lot of talk about the 100th Tour being very mountain-y, and Froome is the better climber, but not so good at time trialling, compare to Wiggins. Also, Contador might be back, and a few others, which would increase the competition by quite a lot. So, for Wiggins to win this one, then not defend it next year, but help Froome instead, could be a decent excuse.

However, we won't know the route until January, so it's all conjecture.

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13.00 Bradley Wiggins, whose group currently trails the lead group by 5mins 30secs offered a straightforward appaisal on the Tourmalet. "It goes uphill like all of them, it's very difficult," said the Team Sky leader.


from the torygraph.

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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!


Isn't he just concerned that Froome will think "fuck it" and challenge him in this tour though? This is just a "please don't and i'll be your best bud"


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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!


Isn't he just concerned that Froome will think "fuck it" and challenge him in this tour though? This is just a "please don't and i'll be your best bud"

Unlikely. Wiggo is the team leader and Froome will not challenge him unless he no longer has a chance to win.

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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!


Isn't he just concerned that Froome will think "fuck it" and challenge him in this tour though? This is just a "please don't and i'll be your best bud"

Unlikely. Wiggo is the team leader and Froome will not challenge him unless he no longer has a chance to win.


Sure, it's unlikely, but you never know :)


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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!


Isn't he just concerned that Froome will think "fuck it" and challenge him in this tour though? This is just a "please don't and i'll be your best bud"

Unlikely. Wiggo is the team leader and Froome will not challenge him unless he no longer has a chance to win.


Sure, it's unlikely, but you never know :)


Only if the sun gets to him and he suffers a huge attack of The Mentals, follwoed by "I didn't ever want another job anyway". Cycling is a fair and gentlemanly sport. Remember Indurain riding Delgado up the mountains in 1990, sacrificing places himself for his leader?

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MaliA wrote:
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Interesting that Wiggo has said that if he wins the Tour, he'll ride domestique for Froome in the future!


Isn't he just concerned that Froome will think "fuck it" and challenge him in this tour though? This is just a "please don't and i'll be your best bud"

Unlikely. Wiggo is the team leader and Froome will not challenge him unless he no longer has a chance to win.


Sure, it's unlikely, but you never know :)


Only if the sun gets to him and he suffers a huge attack of The Mentals


He's a TDF rider, doesn't mental come as part of the package ;)


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Cycling is a fair and gentlemanly sport.
...that's full of cheating druggies.

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...that's full of cheating druggies.


I try not to think about that, as it breaks my heart time and time again. Virenque, Pantani, Hamilton to name but three.

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Evans appears to have been dropped.

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Wiggo did well to reel in Nibbles, by all accounts. For all the talk of Froome holding back on this TdF, there's no saying if he'd have been able to make a break stick over Wiggins, and Brad is definitely the better time trialler. I think we should just be happy that we've got a 1-2 for GB!

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Right, here's hoping for something extra-ordinary in the GC today. Hopefully, there'll be some form of pact between Evans and Nibaldi and TeeJay to attack, attack attack, and let Nibbles go for it. i want to see Froome in full uphilll mode. I hope Cavendish gets over the mountains.

I was reminded the other day of Mario Cipollini whose attitude towards the mountainous bits was "fuck this, I'm going to the beach" and his brilliant apparel, and I'm pleased that Cavendish is going up the hills as best he can.


I liked Voeckler's sitting up on the saddle, arms outstretched poses yesterday. I was doing that on Sunday. And, apparently, I was also climbing with my tongue out. So, it clearly isn't an odd thing to do, despite what others say.

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Big day today in TdF.

Also start of The Open and the Test!

I should have taken the day off!

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However, we won't know the route until January, so it's all conjecture.

It's not always the same route?!

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However, we won't know the route until January, so it's all conjecture.

It's not always the same route?!




Ooooh no, it's been to the UK in the past :)


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Trooper wrote:
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However, we won't know the route until January, so it's all conjecture.

It's not always the same route?!




Ooooh no, it's been to the UK in the past :)


I saw it in London. It was one of the most awesome days ever.

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Just watched the time trial. How fast is Wiggins.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOur8qXvpnk

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Just watched the time trial. How fast is Wiggins.


You should be able to tell us, you just watched the time trial.

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Just watched the time trial. How fast is Wiggins.


You should be able to tell us, you just watched the time trial.


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That was brilliant. First time I have watched the TDF

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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.

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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.

Worse than Eddie The Eagle.
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Didnt you watch it yesterday?

yes yesterday was the first time I watched it.

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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.


Very high up there, especially as there is no real tradition of the sport in this country.

One thing that did occur to me was this was heavily funded over the last twenty years or so by Lottery money and grants. When you compare the state of cycling now and then, compared to the FA which has had much, much more private money poured into it over the same timescale, it shows just how bad a job the football authorities have done.

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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.


Very high up there, especially as there is no real tradition of the sport in this country.

One thing that did occur to me was this was heavily funded over the last twenty years or so by Lottery money and grants. When you compare the state of cycling now and then, compared to the FA which has had much, much more private money poured into it over the same timescale, it shows just how bad a job the football authorities have done.

I assume that funding will drop off with Sky sponsorship and success generating more commercial returns. What then needs to happen is that the cycling funding is redirected to another deserving sport with similar ambitions.


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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.


Very high up there, especially as there is no real tradition of the sport in this country.

One thing that did occur to me was this was heavily funded over the last twenty years or so by Lottery money and grants. When you compare the state of cycling now and then, compared to the FA which has had much, much more private money poured into it over the same timescale, it shows just how bad a job the football authorities have done.

I assume that funding will drop off with Sky sponsorship and success generating more commercial returns. What then needs to happen is that the cycling funding is redirected to another deserving sport with similar ambitions.


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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.


Very high up there, especially as there is no real tradition of the sport in this country.


Eh?


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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.


Very high up there, especially as there is no real tradition of the sport in this country.

One thing that did occur to me was this was heavily funded over the last twenty years or so by Lottery money and grants. When you compare the state of cycling now and then, compared to the FA which has had much, much more private money poured into it over the same timescale, it shows just how bad a job the football authorities have done.


Ironically, most of the current grant money's been wasted on the Mcdonalds-Coca-Colympics, so...


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Yeah, I loved it when his bike lifted off the ground with Gaywood in the basket heading towards the Mothership.

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Wiggins during Lesley Garrett massacring of the National Anthem.


I can't believe it was considered a better idea to fly that screeching harpie in than to play a fucking CD. This is the French resenting and punishing us.


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Where does this sit in terms of sporting achievements in British history?

Gotta be pretty near the top, with Wiggo one of our best sportsmen ever when you add in his Olympic golds etc.


Very high up there, especially as there is no real tradition of the sport in this country.


Eh?


Badly phrased. We've got a history of it, but then we've got a history of ice hockey since the 1920s as well. It happened, but we didn't do much with it and what we did have was one-offs. We have no real tradition of road racing. Tom Simpson in the Sixties, Robert Millar. In the 90s Chris Boardman and Max Sciandri. Wasn't it as recent as 2005 where there were no British riders in the Tour at all?

I was reading something about some rule that stopped road racing in the UK for a while, so we've always been good at track cycling and time trials because they were only things allowed.

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I'm gutted beyond belief about this. Gutted for Armstrong if he's innocent, and gutted for cycling (and sport in general) if he's guilty.

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

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