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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:44 
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Today a mini paris-roubai.. watch out for our niki and lars boom! should be a great stage!

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MALI STAT ATTACK! On Sunday,It took about 15 minutes for the Tour to get to the top of Holme Moss. It took me 37 minutes. But it was considerably windier. And I was on my own.

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I know officially support Lars Boom.



LARS BOOM!

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I know officially support Lars Boom.



LARS BOOM!


Huh! I am between 0.5 and 0.3 of a BOOM!
From Strava:

Addingham - Silsden Road climb (Cat 4, 2.2 miles, 3.7% average grade, 436 feet climbed)
MaliA - 14:20
Lars Boom - 8:10


Holmfirth to Holme Moss (Cat 2, 4.5 miles, 5% average grade, 1203 feet climbed)
Malia - 45:00
Lars Boom 17:13

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Stage 5

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Froome has fallen off. Again. Before he even gets to the cobbles. Of whihc they ahve removed two sections as it is raining and stuff.

And now two have gone down in the breakaway. OooF! Goona be tough.

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SOunds like carnage out there, people going down everywhere

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The BBC tells me that Froome has retired from the competition.

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He's fallen twice and now gotten in the car. Time for Richie Porte to step up, otherwise noone will see him, hes that short.EXCITE!

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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Wiggins is going to be furious.


I'll give up using spoilers. Yeah, he and Thomas did well in Paris Roubaix this year. Froome hit a car on his only attempt and gave up. Mind you, he didn't make it to the cobbles. Still, with wrist knack and riding about in the rain I ahrdly blame him. Still, Valverde is lookingbetter now, eh? Bet you're happy you all took my advice.

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I'm not sure roubaix comes into it. Where hes dropped because of froomes ego, but would have been plan B otherwise (Porte still stands a better chance than Wiggins as there's only the one TT but needs support and I think Wiggins would have been a pretty good domestique to porte) Brailsford has fucked up in that respect.


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I'm not sure roubaix comes into it. Where hes dropped because of froomes ego, but would have been plan B otherwise (Porte still stands a better chance than Wiggins as there's only the one TT but needs support and I think Wiggins would have been a pretty good domestique to porte) Brailsford has fucked up in that respect.


To survive the cobbles, Thomas and Wiggins have form, Froome doesn't.

I think the decision to only take Froome was the right one: Having a plan B sacrifices a roleur or a puncheur that might be needed in a bind, and a deputy might not work 100% for his leader as history has shown.

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This stage looks excellent. I am looking forward to tonight's highlights.

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MaliA wrote:
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I'm not sure roubaix comes into it. Where hes dropped because of froomes ego, but would have been plan B otherwise (Porte still stands a better chance than Wiggins as there's only the one TT but needs support and I think Wiggins would have been a pretty good domestique to porte) Brailsford has fucked up in that respect.


To survive the cobbles, Thomas and Wiggins have form, Froome doesn't.

I think the decision to only take Froome was the right one: Having a plan B sacrifices a roleur or a puncheur that might be needed in a bind, and a deputy might not work 100% for his leader as history has shown.

I mainly meant as picking a team based on a single stage is bold. If it wasn't raining, we don't know how froome would have dealt with the cobbles and he never got there anyway.

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romanista wrote:
Today a mini paris-roubai.. watch out for our niki and lars boom! should be a great stage!


Good call.

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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
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I'm not sure roubaix comes into it. Where hes dropped because of froomes ego, but would have been plan B otherwise (Porte still stands a better chance than Wiggins as there's only the one TT but needs support and I think Wiggins would have been a pretty good domestique to porte) Brailsford has fucked up in that respect.


To survive the cobbles, Thomas and Wiggins have form, Froome doesn't.

I think the decision to only take Froome was the right one: Having a plan B sacrifices a roleur or a puncheur that might be needed in a bind, and a deputy might not work 100% for his leader as history has shown.

I mainly meant as picking a team based on a single stage is bold. If it wasn't raining, we don't know how froome would have dealt with the cobbles and he never got there anyway.

Do take your point on plan B giving compromises though.


I would have thought the cobbles presented a significant opporteunity to put time in on rivals and so on. I take your point on not planning around one stage, though.

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1 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Astana Pro Team 20:26:46
2 Jakob Fuglsang (Den) Astana Pro Team 0:00:02
3 Peter Sagan (Svk) Cannondale 0:00:44
4 Michal Kwiatkowski (Pol) Omega Pharma - Quick-Step Cycling Team 0:00:50
5 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Trek Factory Racing 0:01:17
6 Jurgen Van Den Broeck (Bel) Lotto Belisol 0:01:45
7 Tony Gallopin (Fra) Lotto Belisol
8 Richie Porte (Aus) Team Sky 0:01:54
9 Andrew Talansky (USA) Garmin Sharp 0:02:05
10 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Movistar Team 0:02:11


Crikey.

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Sprint finish tomorrow, peleton take it as an easy day with the exception of bertie who launches an attack on the second climb. Gets reeled in 20km from end.. Lad from Quickstep wins.

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Got into work today, and two special DLR trains pulled in alongside each other. The Yellow jersey train, painted yellow with "Va Va Froome" written along the side. Also the Green train with "#Cavendish' written along it.

I'm not superstitious, but if there's a polka dot train, I'm not putting my money on it.


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I'm not superstitious, but if there's a polka dot train, I'm not putting my money on it.


Was it afraid to come out of the station?


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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Got into work today, and two special DLR trains pulled in alongside each other. The Yellow jersey train, painted yellow with "Va Va Froome" written along the side. Also the Green train with "#Cavendish' written along it.

I'm not superstitious, but if there's a polka dot train, I'm not putting my money on it.



Pulled in alongside? or crashed to a stop... If you were superstitious you wouldn't have got on either :D


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I know officially support Lars Boom.



LARS BOOM!


great trip it was.. our first tour victory in nine years.. so really happy about that (consolidated for the semifinal loss).. by them way his name in dutch is quite funny as well, since boom means tree...

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I'm not sure roubaix comes into it. Where hes dropped because of froomes ego, but would have been plan B otherwise (Porte still stands a better chance than Wiggins as there's only the one TT but needs support and I think Wiggins would have been a pretty good domestique to porte) Brailsford has fucked up in that respect.


To survive the cobbles, Thomas and Wiggins have form, Froome doesn't.

I think the decision to only take Froome was the right one: Having a plan B sacrifices a roleur or a puncheur that might be needed in a bind, and a deputy might not work 100% for his leader as history has shown.


althoug wiggo surely feels weird now, i tend to agree with this.. even though i think seeing how froome gave uo and fell, and knowing his bad shape in the dauphiné, i think sky might have been to straightforward with trying to copy last year..

interesting to see how you both use the french words.. is this common among english cycling fans (proving that they are 'real' fans perhaps? ;)) ? i tend to use the italian ones (gregario = domestique) since my time there (and since i use the gazzetta as my main sports newspaper), or we use the flemish ones..(which are a bit different to the actual dutch) ones...There is a whole dutch/flemish cycling language, made popular by larger than life characters like Gerrie Kneteman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrie_Knetemann )...

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We tend to use the French terms, yes.

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Flat Stage, blah, blah, blah, 143 miles, sprinters, blah blah blah, Sagan to win today I think after second climb right at the end. He'll sneak away cheekily.

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romanista wrote:
interesting to see how you both use the french words.. is this common among english cycling fans (proving that they are 'real' fans perhaps? ;)) ? i tend to use the italian ones (gregario = domestique) since my time there (and since i use the gazzetta as my main sports newspaper), or we use the flemish ones..(which are a bit different to the actual dutch) ones...There is a whole dutch/flemish cycling language, made popular by larger than life characters like Gerrie Kneteman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrie_Knetemann )...


I think it's fairly common amongst cycling fans. Also, thye are the words which one "just knows" what they mean, as explaining in english is really quite tricky. I speak French and German (to a level), so there's a fair few of those words that exist in those languages, but not in english. The Grauniad sues them a fair amount because it's the Grauniad (and I'm in their coverage, again).

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I miss Virenque's climbing. He was always pretty entertaining to watch.

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Flat Stage, blah, blah, blah, 143 miles, sprinters, blah blah blah, Sagan to win today I think after second climb right at the end. He'll sneak away cheekily.


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MaliA wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
I'm not sure roubaix comes into it. Where hes dropped because of froomes ego, but would have been plan B otherwise (Porte still stands a better chance than Wiggins as there's only the one TT but needs support and I think Wiggins would have been a pretty good domestique to porte) Brailsford has fucked up in that respect.


To survive the cobbles, Thomas and Wiggins have form, Froome doesn't.

I think the decision to only take Froome was the right one: Having a plan B sacrifices a roleur or a puncheur that might be needed in a bind, and a deputy might not work 100% for his leader as history has shown.


althoug wiggo surely feels weird now, i tend to agree with this.. even though i think seeing how froome gave uo and fell, and knowing his bad shape in the dauphiné, i think sky might have been to straightforward with trying to copy last year..

interesting to see how you both use the french words.. is this common among english cycling fans (proving that they are 'real' fans perhaps? ;)) ? i tend to use the italian ones (gregario = domestique) since my time there (and since i use the gazzetta as my main sports newspaper), or we use the flemish ones..(which are a bit different to the actual dutch) ones...There is a whole dutch/flemish cycling language, made popular by larger than life characters like Gerrie Kneteman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrie_Knetemann )...
My Italian colleague who has followed cycling since he was in short trousers doesn't have a fucking clue what we're talking about. Its funny.


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well now you can impress he with gregario.. or with velocista (sprinter) or even more : http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/page/feat ... 8BLV1YY5T4

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Bastille Day.

Hilltop finish, 7 categorised climbs. Expect mayhem.

Looks insanely hard day. Contador to crack today, as it looks like he's been rolling his shoulders a bit up sme of the climbs.

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Bertie has taken a tumble, it seems. Balls.

EDIT: Apparently he is back on,, but miles adrift.

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Contador is out! Abandons on the descent in the fog! Amaze.

You all went each way on Valverde, didn't you?

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You all went each way on Valverde, didn't you?

I'd be surprised if he could do it each way. One way is enough.

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three tourwinners out now (schleck), contador, froome... :(

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Bertie broke his leg but still carried on for a bit longer.

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Probably felt a bit numb initially.


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I'm a big fan of 'lo squalo', so i'm happy with his performance.. will he still have competitors though?



(lo squalo dello stretto.. the shark of the strait (of messina), Nibali)

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After the rest day: Sagan to win, Porte to put some time into Nibbles. Valverde to be in the mix.

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Congrats mr Indurain!.. you've proved that even when you blood is like bubble gum through the epo, you can still get to 50!

Nice interview with Nibali in the Gazzetta...how he will bring the yellow jersey to mama pantani...

sagan , adventurer (van avermaet, van marcke?), or sprint...

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I think Sagan'll make tracks and burn the pure sprinters off to ensure he wins. ANyhoo, sprints are pretty dull, I much prefer it when the riders are scattered up the side of a mountain.

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I think Sagan'll make tracks and burn the pure sprinters off to ensure he wins. ANyhoo, sprints are pretty dull, I much prefer it when the riders are scattered up the side of a mountain.



Blimey. Well, Valverde is 24 seconds from 2nd.

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Oh, erm, Gerrans. Simon Gerrans. Then Sagan. Valverde arrives with Nibbles and Co.

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Sky's Jonathan Tiernan-Locke is on the two year naughty step for irregularities in his biological passport.

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Stage 13 finishes on an uncategorised climb ("Fuck me, thats a bastard" in maliA speak), 1,500m of climbing in 30km. This should offer a chance to make up time on Nibbles, or for him to zoom away even further. I think he's going to be attacked a lot over the last two climbs. So, Valverde to emerge and grab the stage win, followed by Porte as they have to do something spectacular and not let the Astana rider run away with it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:47 
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Nibbles wrote:
Today I expect attacks by the GC contenders. I fear mostly the riders from AG2R, Romain Bardet in particular, but the adversaries I have to control the most are Richie Porte and Alejandro Valverde. It's a long stage today. That will make the race very hard. But I expect my team to do a good work again. We'll try to keep the situation under control.


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Nibbles wrote:
Today I expect attacks by the GC contenders. I fear mostly the riders from AG2R, Romain Bardet in particular, but the adversaries I have to control the most are Richie Porte and Alejandro Valverde. It's a long stage today. That will make the race very hard. But I expect my team to do a good work again. We'll try to keep the situation under control.


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 Post subject: Re: Tour de France 2013
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Also, whilst i tink of it, and I should have mentioned it yesterday:

Talansky's ride up on his own, finishing last after stopping for four minutes because he was in so much pain was something brilliant and to be applauded.

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 Post subject: Re: Tour de France 2013
PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 13:04 
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Nibbles questioned about being on a team run by people that have been on the naughty step and have coaches who ahve trained people who have been on the naughty step (except for Pantani, because Pantani had panache and style). I suppose the best quote to come out of this is "the mother of the imbecile is always pregnant" when referring to other members of the peleton that are urrently on the naughty step or will be soon.

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