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Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:50 ]
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Nice green top.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:35 ]
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:(

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 18:16 ]
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I seem to have been entered into the Manchester 10k run in May....

Now looking at a new road bike as I can do the cycle to work scheme.

Author:  JBR [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 21:46 ]
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I ran that a couple of times - great atmosphere.

Tough time of year to start cycling, but if you can do it in Winter, you can do it any time.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 22:33 ]
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I have a turbo trainer. God it makes you sweat.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 22:45 ]
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Cycle to work scheme is nowhere near as good as it used to be, common opinion is you'll get a lot more for your money if you go second hand these days.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:16 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
I have a turbo trainer. God it makes you sweat.


I think we've met her.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:19 ]
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Cras wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I have a turbo trainer. God it makes you sweat.


I think we've met her.


:)

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:20 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Cycle to work scheme is nowhere near as good as it used to be, common opinion is you'll get a lot more for your money if you go second hand these days.


There is that. Al though I get a £1000 for £46 a month.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:32 ]
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How long is the scheme over? You don't own the bike and have to buy it at market value at the end of the scheme on top of the payments you've made.
Sure, it'll be a bit cheaper than buying outright new, but not by a huge amount, and you don't actually own the bike till the end.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:33 ]
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Most places do 0% finance now on new bikes. I would go for a new one but it seems the 6 I own is 4 too many, and I would have to get rid of at least one.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:35 ]
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Trooper wrote:
How long is the scheme over? You don't own the bike and have to buy it at market value at the end of the scheme on top of the payments you've made.
Sure, it'll be a bit cheaper than buying outright new, but not by a huge amount, and you don't actually own the bike till the end.


Not on our scheme. 12 months. It means it is £83 a months, but the tax and ni make it £46 approx.

To cover it reduced my holiday by 5 days

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:36 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Most places do 0% finance now on new bikes. I would go for a new one but it seems the 6 I own is 4 too many, and I would have to get rid of at least one.


I will have 2

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:45 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Trooper wrote:
How long is the scheme over? You don't own the bike and have to buy it at market value at the end of the scheme on top of the payments you've made.
Sure, it'll be a bit cheaper than buying outright new, but not by a huge amount, and you don't actually own the bike till the end.


Not on our scheme. 12 months. It means it is £83 a months, but the tax and ni make it £46 approx.

To cover it reduced my holiday by 5 days


I'd double check that, as far as I was aware they all end with you needing to buy the bike at the end of the scheme at market value. They never used to, but that was shut down a short while back as it was seen as too much of a tax dodge.

I could be wrong, but that was what I was led to believe when I looked into it last year.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Dec 01, 2014 23:59 ]
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Trooper wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Trooper wrote:
How long is the scheme over? You don't own the bike and have to buy it at market value at the end of the scheme on top of the payments you've made.
Sure, it'll be a bit cheaper than buying outright new, but not by a huge amount, and you don't actually own the bike till the end.


Not on our scheme. 12 months. It means it is £83 a months, but the tax and ni make it £46 approx.

To cover it reduced my holiday by 5 days


I'd double check that, as far as I was aware they all end with you needing to buy the bike at the end of the scheme at market value. They never used to, but that was shut down a short while back as it was seen as too much of a tax dodge.

I could be wrong, but that was what I was led to believe when I looked into it last year.


I will double check.

Author:  JBR [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:10 ]
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I think they backed down from that, Trooper, though my (second) bike to work bike was finished a while ago (2012, I think). Certainly I'd wondered if it would be worth it because of the changes they were talking about, but I paid about £50 as a final payment (bike was £800 new) - there might have been some calculation in there of its market value, but it's with depreciation (perhaps quite heavy) factored in.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:42 ]
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To quote mine...

Cycle to Work
Take advantage of the government sponsored tax exempt Cycle to Work scheme which helps to save you money on the cost of a bicycle and safety equipment.

Select up to £1,000 to spend on a bicycle and safety equipment of your choice. You must agree to use the bicycle mainly for ordinary commuting and/or business journeys.

You then hire the bicycle and equipment from us over a 12-month period, making ‘payments’ via Salary Sacrifice. As the cost is taken prior to Income Tax and National Insurance Contributions, you save money on the cost of the bike.

Author:  myp [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:49 ]
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I was meant to pay market value at the end of mine - think it ended up being £50 for an £800 bike.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:55 ]
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Oh right, I wonder if it has changed, as it does not mention that.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:59 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
To quote mine...

Cycle to Work
Take advantage of the government sponsored tax exempt Cycle to Work scheme which helps to save you money on the cost of a bicycle and safety equipment.

Select up to £1,000 to spend on a bicycle and safety equipment of your choice. You must agree to use the bicycle mainly for ordinary commuting and/or business journeys.

You then hire the bicycle and equipment from us over a 12-month period, making ‘payments’ via Salary Sacrifice. As the cost is taken prior to Income Tax and National Insurance Contributions, you save money on the cost of the bike.


You will have to either give the bike back after 12 months, or buy it off the company at the end though. But it sounds like that (if the people in this thread are typical) is turning out to be a nominal fee rather than actual market value, so you should be fine :)

Are you planning to use the bike for any business journeys that aren't commuting to work? i.e. cycling between offices, cycling to clients, etc... If so, then cycle to work schemes stop you being able to claim 20p per mile in expenses from the government, so that might be a factor to think about.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:33 ]
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Trooper wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
To quote mine...

Cycle to Work
Take advantage of the government sponsored tax exempt Cycle to Work scheme which helps to save you money on the cost of a bicycle and safety equipment.

Select up to £1,000 to spend on a bicycle and safety equipment of your choice. You must agree to use the bicycle mainly for ordinary commuting and/or business journeys.

You then hire the bicycle and equipment from us over a 12-month period, making ‘payments’ via Salary Sacrifice. As the cost is taken prior to Income Tax and National Insurance Contributions, you save money on the cost of the bike.


You will have to either give the bike back after 12 months, or buy it off the company at the end though. But it sounds like that (if the people in this thread are typical) is turning out to be a nominal fee rather than actual market value, so you should be fine :)

Are you planning to use the bike for any business journeys that aren't commuting to work? i.e. cycling between offices, cycling to clients, etc... If so, then cycle to work schemes stop you being able to claim 20p per mile in expenses from the government, so that might be a factor to think about.


I am going to use it for my Local office commute, the between office is a good idea, but I will be using my old bike :)

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:40 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Trooper wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
To quote mine...

Cycle to Work
Take advantage of the government sponsored tax exempt Cycle to Work scheme which helps to save you money on the cost of a bicycle and safety equipment.

Select up to £1,000 to spend on a bicycle and safety equipment of your choice. You must agree to use the bicycle mainly for ordinary commuting and/or business journeys.

You then hire the bicycle and equipment from us over a 12-month period, making ‘payments’ via Salary Sacrifice. As the cost is taken prior to Income Tax and National Insurance Contributions, you save money on the cost of the bike.


You will have to either give the bike back after 12 months, or buy it off the company at the end though. But it sounds like that (if the people in this thread are typical) is turning out to be a nominal fee rather than actual market value, so you should be fine :)

Are you planning to use the bike for any business journeys that aren't commuting to work? i.e. cycling between offices, cycling to clients, etc... If so, then cycle to work schemes stop you being able to claim 20p per mile in expenses from the government, so that might be a factor to think about.


I am going to use it for my Local office commute, the between office is a good idea, but I will be using my old bike :)


Even if you use your old bike, you can't claim the 20p though, if you are in a cycle to work scheme :)

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 14:09 ]
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I have never claimed those expenses.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Dec 02, 2014 14:10 ]
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Then you should if you can, free money! :D

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 14:38 ]
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I have been entered into the Great Manchester run, so had had up up date the runs and following a plan.

Just din a 60m run (one or two small walks) and cover 9.2km. I am confident I should be able to do a 10k in under the hour.


I may have ordred this - http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/CBPXNANORI ... -road-bike

Author:  JBR [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 15:56 ]
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Cor, that looks nice. I ran the Great Manchester run a couple of times - great, big, fun atmosphere.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 16:01 ]
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Ever since this thread was first posted, I've wanted to ask "Should it be Middle Aged Spread?". Today is finally the right day.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 16:08 ]
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JBR wrote:
Cor, that looks nice. I ran the Great Manchester run a couple of times - great, big, fun atmosphere.



It is light....

I am looking forward to the 10k. Want to work on reducing my time.

Author:  markg [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 16:09 ]
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Going out running after work. It's been ages. I'm scared.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 16:55 ]
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Good luck, i found it hard, after not running at Christmas.

Author:  markg [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 17:39 ]
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http://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/672054694

Pathetic. It was windy as fuck but even so. Had no idea how out of shape I've got. Still with that as a starting point finding improvement should be pretty easy.

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 17:44 ]
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I'm still in pain after doing resistance training with my PT on Friday for the first time this year - they're evil little sods. Still managed my 1km swim training today, but when I got in the high pressure jet pool after I actually screamed as it hit my thigh - what the hell has he done to me?! So pleased I have another session tomorrow. *cries*

Still, the combo of having given up alcohol and training at least 4 times a week is doing some serious getting-smaller and healthier magic, so shall persist! might just have to punch my PT occasionally to make myself feel better about the pain..

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 18:08 ]
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markg wrote:
http://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/672054694

Pathetic. It was windy as fuck but even so. Had no idea how out of shape I've got. Still with that as a starting point finding improvement should be pretty easy.


That is still faster than me..

http://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/671921360

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 18:14 ]
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TheFireFaerie wrote:
I'm still in pain after doing resistance training with my PT on Friday for the first time this year - they're evil little sods. Still managed my 1km swim training today, but when I got in the high pressure jet pool after I actually screamed as it hit my thigh - what the hell has he done to me?! So pleased I have another session tomorrow. *cries*

Still, the combo of having given up alcohol and training at least 4 times a week is doing some serious getting-smaller and healthier magic, so shall persist! might just have to punch my PT occasionally to make myself feel better about the pain..



I had a sports massage on Saturday, I still hurt today

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 18:19 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
TheFireFaerie wrote:
I'm still in pain after doing resistance training with my PT on Friday for the first time this year - they're evil little sods. Still managed my 1km swim training today, but when I got in the high pressure jet pool after I actually screamed as it hit my thigh - what the hell has he done to me?! So pleased I have another session tomorrow. *cries*

Still, the combo of having given up alcohol and training at least 4 times a week is doing some serious getting-smaller and healthier magic, so shall persist! might just have to punch my PT occasionally to make myself feel better about the pain..



I had a sports massage on Saturday, I still hurt today


The really do go for it, don't they? Good for us, apparently *looks dubious* Still, I'm sure we're seeing the overall improvements!!

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 18:28 ]
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TheFireFaerie wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
TheFireFaerie wrote:
I'm still in pain after doing resistance training with my PT on Friday for the first time this year - they're evil little sods. Still managed my 1km swim training today, but when I got in the high pressure jet pool after I actually screamed as it hit my thigh - what the hell has he done to me?! So pleased I have another session tomorrow. *cries*

Still, the combo of having given up alcohol and training at least 4 times a week is doing some serious getting-smaller and healthier magic, so shall persist! might just have to punch my PT occasionally to make myself feel better about the pain..



I had a sports massage on Saturday, I still hurt today


The really do go for it, don't they? Good for us, apparently *looks dubious* Still, I'm sure we're seeing the overall improvements!!


Yes, he was evil. I should do a swim, but I am knackered.

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 18:38 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
TheFireFaerie wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
TheFireFaerie wrote:
I'm still in pain after doing resistance training with my PT on Friday for the first time this year - they're evil little sods. Still managed my 1km swim training today, but when I got in the high pressure jet pool after I actually screamed as it hit my thigh - what the hell has he done to me?! So pleased I have another session tomorrow. *cries*

Still, the combo of having given up alcohol and training at least 4 times a week is doing some serious getting-smaller and healthier magic, so shall persist! might just have to punch my PT occasionally to make myself feel better about the pain..



I had a sports massage on Saturday, I still hurt today


The really do go for it, don't they? Good for us, apparently *looks dubious* Still, I'm sure we're seeing the overall improvements!!


Yes, he was evil. I should do a swim, but I am knackered.


I actually found that my swim really helped today (just don't go in a jet pool!!!)

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 18:50 ]
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I am having swimming coaching for crawl. That is hard work.

Author:  markg [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 22:08 ]
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Keep meaning to take some swimming lessons. I can swim ok and am confident but my technique is just inefficient, uncoordinated and awful, two lengths of pitiful flailing and I'm done.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jan 12, 2015 22:14 ]
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markg wrote:
Keep meaning to take some swimming lessons. I can swim ok and am confident but my technique is just inefficient, uncoordinated and awful, two lengths of pitiful flailing and I'm done.


When I started I could not do 25m crawl. I am up to 150m with stopping.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:24 ]
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I've been running again over the last week. Starting small doesn't cover it. My block is exactly 700 meters and I do one lap per day. It takes just over 4 minutes at my current speed. I shall continue doing one lap per day until it's easy, then I shall attempt further.

The annoying thing is, I know my body can run much further and much faster, but my stupid asthma is limiting my range. Hence the slow start. Gotta build up that cardio. My general heath and weight have improved greatly recently and my non-aerobic fitness is better than it ever has been since I was a teenager.

Author:  JBR [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:26 ]
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Can you extend with some walking? Be disciplined, but two minutes running, two walking (or more), then two minutes running? That'll probably get you up towards 20 minutes more quickly, and it'll be a bigger boost to your fitness. Speed really doesn't matter, but a bit more time out doing will help a lot.

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:35 ]
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Yeah, try the C25K app - that's great for intervals and really helps with the breathing (I am rubbish at my breathing and feel like I'm having an asthma attack after just a few minutes, so it's brilliant for pacing myself and making sure I still do a good 20-30 mins)

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:36 ]
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My legs are still a bit stiff after 4 days, and I have another resistance training session today - feel there may be tears involved later!! Wonder how long it takes to get used(ish) to it?

Author:  Trousers [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 13:11 ]
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I lifted some weights for the first time since early December last night.

Today I hurt.

However, I felt so much better for having done it that I shall now get back into it properly again. Just need to do the cardio (story of my life)

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 13:24 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I've been running again over the last week. Starting small doesn't cover it. My block is exactly 700 meters and I do one lap per day. It takes just over 4 minutes at my current speed. I shall continue doing one lap per day until it's easy, then I shall attempt further.

The annoying thing is, I know my body can run much further and much faster, but my stupid asthma is limiting my range. Hence the slow start. Gotta build up that cardio. My general heath and weight have improved greatly recently and my non-aerobic fitness is better than it ever has been since I was a teenager.



Yes the Couch to 5k is good, will get you doing a 5k in in 8 weeks. My asthma is a lot better since I have been doing running.

I am glad my weight is coming off as it is not areo dynamic, much like your bonce :) :kiss:

Author:  TheFireFaerie [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 14:50 ]
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I still haven't completed the damned thing - but that's because I loathe running SO much. I think I'd rather do anything else! Still go for a run every weekend, but I have no intention of it becoming a full time thing. Swimming, gym, classes, anything else - yay. Running? bLEUGH. So, if someone like me who hates it with a passion can do it, so can you DavPaz :) Ant he C25K is definitely the best thing to have ever got me even vaguely motivated.

Just back from resistance - can still just about walk. Calling that a win...

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 15:01 ]
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I hated running at first, sort of got into it now. Got a decent pair of trainers and it is free after that :)

Author:  myp [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 15:04 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
it is free after that :)

So's a kick in the face if you want that too?

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 15:06 ]
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Saves me paying for it.. :)

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