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Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 19:49 ]
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Second friday in a row cycling home from work and I got completely soaked. Grump

Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Jul 04, 2014 21:52 ]
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I think I saw Jem running. When I picked up MiniKov

Author:  Jem [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 15:37 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
I think I saw Jem running. When I picked up MiniKov


I thought I saw you! What a coincidence :D

(I did 9.5km last night. NINE POINT FIVE KILOMETRES. That's my furthest so far!)

Author:  KovacsC [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 21:08 ]
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Jem wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I think I saw Jem running. When I picked up MiniKov


I thought I saw you! What a coincidence :D

(I did 9.5km last night. NINE POINT FIVE KILOMETRES. That's my furthest so far!)


Was it me waving that give it away???

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 21:17 ]
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Jem wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I think I saw Jem running. When I picked up MiniKov


I thought I saw you! What a coincidence :D

(I did 9.5km last night. NINE POINT FIVE KILOMETRES. That's my furthest so far!)

How many of those were trying to get away from Kov, though?

Author:  KovacsC [ Sat Jul 05, 2014 21:22 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Jem wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
I think I saw Jem running. When I picked up MiniKov


I thought I saw you! What a coincidence :D

(I did 9.5km last night. NINE POINT FIVE KILOMETRES. That's my furthest so far!)

How many of those were trying to get away from Kov, though?


:(

Author:  Cras [ Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:09 ]
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:D

Author:  Trousers [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 19:17 ]
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My neck has been fucked since BeeXBBQQuattro and the Travelodge's shitty pillows so I've not lifted anything since before then.

It's not quite better yet but I've got much more movement in it.

Will weights help loosen it or make it better do we think?

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Mon Jul 07, 2014 21:19 ]
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do you know what you are doing with weights? If not, really leave them, at least while injured. i gave myself tendonitis i the shoulder lifting, and am only just recovering a year later.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:27 ]
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Trousers wrote:
My neck has been fucked since BeeXBBQQuattro and the Travelodge's shitty pillows so I've not lifted anything since before then.

It's not quite better yet but I've got much more movement in it.

Will weights help loosen it or make it better do we think?


Go and get physio as we discussed!!

Author:  Trousers [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:06 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
Trousers wrote:
My neck has been fucked since BeeXBBQQuattro and the Travelodge's shitty pillows so I've not lifted anything since before then.

It's not quite better yet but I've got much more movement in it.

Will weights help loosen it or make it better do we think?


Go and get physio as we discussed!!


All right Doctor K. JEEZ.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:24 ]
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Trousers wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Trousers wrote:
My neck has been fucked since BeeXBBQQuattro and the Travelodge's shitty pillows so I've not lifted anything since before then.

It's not quite better yet but I've got much more movement in it.

Will weights help loosen it or make it better do we think?


Go and get physio as we discussed!!


All right Doctor K. JEEZ.


Want me to google one on my Windows 8 laptop :)

Author:  Cras [ Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:31 ]
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My rear is still decidedly sore from the BBQ weekend (yes, yes, :hat:) after my realisation that the elasticity of the trampoline isn't sufficient to enable my tailbone to escape the gravitational attraction of the very solid ground.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 20:23 ]
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4.5km run in 30 minutes. Strava failed to record it so you will just have to believe me. And it is hilly. Stupid hills slowing me down.

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 20:47 ]
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Went to the gym for the first time in at least a decade.

I now feel all like "RAAAAR! I AM A FUCKING TIGER!"

Would love to join it (I have a week freebie) but it probably costs a bajillion pounds and I can't go that often.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 21:32 ]
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I should probably just give you my membership card for the one near you given that I moved away 10 months ago and keep forgetting to cancel.

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 21:41 ]
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Or you could just cancel it.

Author:  Trousers [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:40 ]
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One of the girls at work called me 'slim' . I'll take that despite inching even closer to 'obese' as per my BMI in recent weeks. Heh.

I picked up the weights on monday having sensibly had two weeks off for my neck to recover. My tits hurt like fuck even now. It's amazing how much a relatively small break can set you back.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:48 ]
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MaliA wrote:
4.5km run in 30 minutes. Strava failed to record it so you will just have to believe me. And it is hilly. Stupid hills slowing me down.


Strava worked yesterday; 3 miles in 30 minutes, which isn't terrible, but nowhere near where I want to be. Also: Running is really, really, fucking boring. The run climbs 406 feet so I think I'll work on getting the time for the second mile better as I think that's where the benefits to a good time will be (up the hill). Disappointingly, there are no Strava sections for this run.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:14 ]
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£10 fitness band:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28416796

Author:  Trousers [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:54 ]
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Trousers wrote:
It's amazing how much a relatively small break can set you back.


I did a second session last night (so 48hours+ since last session) and my tits told me "not happening matey" so I had to give up on the chest stuff.

It's only been two weeks off and I did less reps on my return session. Being old is shit. Proper shit.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:56 ]
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My swimming is coming on great. Just got to get my fitness.

Can't wait to get on my road bike.

Author:  Trousers [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:21 ]
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When's your first Triathlon fella or are you doing a Duathlon first?

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 13:39 ]
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Trousers wrote:
Trousers wrote:
It's amazing how much a relatively small break can set you back.


I did a second session last night (so 48hours+ since last session) and my tits told me "not happening matey" so I had to give up on the chest stuff.

It's only been two weeks off and I did less reps on my return session. Being old is shit. Proper shit.

You're not old.

Author:  Trousers [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 14:10 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
Trousers wrote:
Trousers wrote:
It's amazing how much a relatively small break can set you back.


I did a second session last night (so 48hours+ since last session) and my tits told me "not happening matey" so I had to give up on the chest stuff.

It's only been two weeks off and I did less reps on my return session. Being old is shit. Proper shit.

You're not old.


You try telling that to my bones / muscles / and more importantly - hair.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Jul 24, 2014 17:02 ]
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Trousers wrote:
When's your first Triathlon fella or are you doing a Duathlon first?



Going to aim for next year.

Author:  Trooper [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 18:00 ]
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First parkrun this morning, it was really good fun :)

Came fourth from last though, as I was babysitting Kate's 11yr old brother, and he was having none of this running shit :D so it ended up as a walk for me. I plan on going again next week and seeing what I can actually do it in, I'd hope for 35mins but would be pleased with sub 40 to be honest. We did it in 54 minutes walking 4.5k of it, so sub 40 should be easily on the cards.

Author:  KovacsC [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 19:08 ]
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you should be faster than me, you have less mass :)

Author:  Curiosity [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 19:41 ]
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Trooper wrote:
First parkrun this morning, it was really good fun :)

Came fourth from last though, as I was babysitting Kate's 11yr old brother, and he was having none of this running shit :D so it ended up as a walk for me. I plan on going again next week and seeing what I can actually do it in, I'd hope for 35mins but would be pleased with sub 40 to be honest. We did it in 54 minutes walking 4.5k of it, so sub 40 should be easily on the cards.


I am going to do a sub-30 minute one before the year is out. I'm aiming for 25 minutes, but 30 is still success.

At the moment I can run about twenty yards before feeling like death.

Author:  Malc [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 20:06 ]
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I think my natural walking pace is about 4 miles an hour, so I think I could walk 3 miles (5Km) in about 45 minutes (I used to do the 2 mile walk to work from the bus stop in just under half an hour).

I was always a sprinter, rather than long distance running, so I don't know what I could do running wise, it would probably be longer as I'd collapse after 100m!

Malc

Author:  Trooper [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 21:12 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Trooper wrote:
First parkrun this morning, it was really good fun :)

Came fourth from last though, as I was babysitting Kate's 11yr old brother, and he was having none of this running shit :D so it ended up as a walk for me. I plan on going again next week and seeing what I can actually do it in, I'd hope for 35mins but would be pleased with sub 40 to be honest. We did it in 54 minutes walking 4.5k of it, so sub 40 should be easily on the cards.


I am going to do a sub-30 minute one before the year is out. I'm aiming for 25 minutes, but 30 is still success.

At the moment I can run about twenty yards before feeling like death.


Sub 30 is the real target, but that will be a little while coming I suspect. This is the first running I've done since I did the couch to 5k thing the first time.

Author:  Curiosity [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 22:48 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Trooper wrote:
First parkrun this morning, it was really good fun :)

Came fourth from last though, as I was babysitting Kate's 11yr old brother, and he was having none of this running shit :D so it ended up as a walk for me. I plan on going again next week and seeing what I can actually do it in, I'd hope for 35mins but would be pleased with sub 40 to be honest. We did it in 54 minutes walking 4.5k of it, so sub 40 should be easily on the cards.


I am going to do a sub-30 minute one before the year is out. I'm aiming for 25 minutes, but 30 is still success.

At the moment I can run about twenty yards before feeling like death.


Sub 30 is the real target, but that will be a little while coming I suspect. This is the first running I've done since I did the couch to 5k thing the first time.


You should be fine. I've still never got past Week Five of it, ever.

Author:  JBR [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 23:11 ]
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More parkrunning! Well done, the more of you/us that have a go, the better. Well done, and on a hot and tough day, too. There will be a sweet spot in autumn/early winter when with a bit of luck you'll hit fitness and lightness and whizz round one.

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 23:24 ]
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Trooper wrote:
First parkrun this morning, it was really good fun :)

Going is the main thing, and you'll probably find that the mere presence of people around you pushes you to much faster times than you'll ever achieve running by yourself.

I know it's not a race, and that I can't win, but that doesn't stop me putting on a practically vomit-inducing sprint on the finishing straight to overtake as many people as possible. That's after I've been pushing hard the whole time to keep my position. Weird but useful!

Anyway, sub-30 will come. I did loads of 5ks back when I first started and I remember coughing up a lung to get a time of 30:24 or something, but now if I didn't run around 25 minutes I'd be quite annoyed. You'll get there :)

Author:  Trooper [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 18:49 ]
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Did the same route tonight on my own. According to the stopwatch 37m 59s :)

However, according to the inbuilt tracker in ZombiesRun (using the high accuracy GPS mode) I did 7km in 37m 59s, which synced up to runkeeper and on runkeeper apparently I did 6.18k in 39m. Yesterday on the same route runkeeper thought I did 5.74k...
I think i'll trust the parkrun guys as to the true distance, and the stopwatch as to the true time!

Interesting how the different apps interpret the data, and some seem more accurate than others. I just assumed they took the data provided by the phone and didn't muck about with it, but that can't be the case if ZombiesRun and Runkeeper show different times and distances from exactly the same source data.

I'm going to do some science and use different tracking apps each time I do the run, and see which once comes closest to being accurate. I wasn't expect them to be completely accurate, but I was expecting them to be better than this. It's not like i'm running in a built up area, the run is around a lakeside. A few tree covered bits but nothing too dense.

What do you guys use? I was going to try Nike+, Endomodo and Strava. Assuming they all do running tracking.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 19:01 ]
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Strava

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 19:51 ]
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I still use my trusty Garmin Forerunner 305. Going strong after 7 years.

Author:  Trooper [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 19:53 ]
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
I still use my trusty Garmin Forerunner 305. Going strong after 7 years.


I've got one of those too, which I can bring out of retirement. The only problem with that though is that you need to use the godawful garmin connect software and website. :)

Oh, and it takes about half an hour to find any satellites! :D

Author:  JBR [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 20:08 ]
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You don't have to use garmin connect. I don't mind the website-and it has changed a lot recently, so maybe have a look. But Sporttracks is highly recommended by friends for PC, and I love Rubitracks (costs wonga, though) on the mac.

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 21:36 ]
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Yeah I turn mine on well in advance of actually wanting to run anywhere. With phone GPS being pretty good I'm not sure if I'd buy another GPS watch now... I can't find any really good comparisonsor particular criticisms of phone accuracy to make me think a new watch is worth it.

Author:  markg [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 21:45 ]
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Phone accuracy is fine, you only need to look at the trace on a map to see how the data is. I still use my forerunner watch though, I don't fancy running with my phone, it's just too bulky.

Author:  Trooper [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 21:47 ]
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I use my phone to listen to music, so I have it on me anyway. I'll try the garmin next time as well and compare the phone to it.

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 23:28 ]
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The watch isn't perfect by any means. Sometimes the map looks bang on, and other times, regardless of how long I leave it to detect satellites initially, it shows me running 50 yards north of where I really am, or I drift all over the place.

Author:  Trousers [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:37 ]
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Went for a walk yesterday on the sandstone trail near Beeston castle. Wore totally inadequate footwear but I managed to outlast a dog with my fitness (ok the dog is older than me in dog years but still eh) and could have gone for a lot longer. So I am making some progress with my aerobic fitness outside of the weights.

Going to go back without the dogs at some point for a longer trek and this time remember the memory card for my camera. That was gutting getting it out and reading the display and going "OOOOH BOLLOCKS - it's in the laptop".

Author:  JBR [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:26 ]
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
The watch isn't perfect by any means. Sometimes the map looks bang on, and other times, regardless of how long I leave it to detect satellites initially, it shows me running 50 yards north of where I really am, or I drift all over the place.


I think that's GPS in general, I wouldn't expect a phone to necessarily be better, though I guess the newer the GPS receiver, the more accurate it's capable of being. I've a garmin 405 which has mostly been excellent, though some tracks are a series of very straight lines that I clearly never ran, and I really wasn't in the sea that time, officer.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:30 ]
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Strava on my S2 and my friends Garmin agreed to within a good tolerance when we cycled 160+ miles.

Author:  markg [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:35 ]
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JBR wrote:
ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
The watch isn't perfect by any means. Sometimes the map looks bang on, and other times, regardless of how long I leave it to detect satellites initially, it shows me running 50 yards north of where I really am, or I drift all over the place.


I think that's GPS in general, I wouldn't expect a phone to necessarily be better, though I guess the newer the GPS receiver, the more accurate it's capable of being. I've a garmin 405 which has mostly been excellent, though some tracks are a series of very straight lines that I clearly never ran, and I really wasn't in the sea that time, officer.

Yeah, all GPS can be affected by thick cloud or say a narrow street with tall buildings. Some receivers definitely keep a lock better than others under difficult circumstances, though.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:53 ]
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markg wrote:
JBR wrote:
ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
The watch isn't perfect by any means. Sometimes the map looks bang on, and other times, regardless of how long I leave it to detect satellites initially, it shows me running 50 yards north of where I really am, or I drift all over the place.


I think that's GPS in general, I wouldn't expect a phone to necessarily be better, though I guess the newer the GPS receiver, the more accurate it's capable of being. I've a garmin 405 which has mostly been excellent, though some tracks are a series of very straight lines that I clearly never ran, and I really wasn't in the sea that time, officer.

Yeah, all GPS can be affected by thick cloud or say a narrow street with tall buildings. Some receivers definitely keep a lock better than others under difficult circumstances, though.


And, as proved by my experience yesterday, how the client interprets the GPS data seems to be a big factor too.

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:02 ]
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I actually changed my usual route as the quick short cut at the start of the run confuses my GPS and it assumes I ran the long way round. Either that or I did do the first kilometre in 19 seconds.

Author:  markg [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:03 ]
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Trooper wrote:
markg wrote:
JBR wrote:
ElephantBanjoGnome wrote:
The watch isn't perfect by any means. Sometimes the map looks bang on, and other times, regardless of how long I leave it to detect satellites initially, it shows me running 50 yards north of where I really am, or I drift all over the place.


I think that's GPS in general, I wouldn't expect a phone to necessarily be better, though I guess the newer the GPS receiver, the more accurate it's capable of being. I've a garmin 405 which has mostly been excellent, though some tracks are a series of very straight lines that I clearly never ran, and I really wasn't in the sea that time, officer.

Yeah, all GPS can be affected by thick cloud or say a narrow street with tall buildings. Some receivers definitely keep a lock better than others under difficult circumstances, though.


And, as proved by my experience yesterday, how the client interprets the GPS data seems to be a big factor too.

Yeah, I must confess that I've never seen that, though. GPS data isn't complicated so that's some wonky stuff going on.

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