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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:59 
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Hello, running folk.

My brother wants a pair of headphones that would "be good to use when jogging".

Are there specific ones, or will anything do?

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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What is he after?

I have a pair of these
http://www.philips.co.uk/c-p/SHQ4000_10 ... e-and-grey
Which are nice and do the job.

However, in my attempts to get rid of unnecessary stuff while running, i've dumped my phone and moved over to using these
http://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/walkm ... -nwz-w274s
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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Just headphones, presumably.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I can't seem to wear headphones and run, not sure why..

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I have these.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Are they good?

Sound quality 7/10
Staying in earability 10/10

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I went to Boots today to get weighed thinking I would be under 15 stone. Nope - actually 15 stone 6

My waist, however, is getting smaller and I haven't grown an extra chin. Only possible explanation is that I am defying the laws of physics somehow and gaining muscle whilst getting thinner (ok Less Fat)

They key definitely appears to be sticking to the routine - I notice the biggest differences if I train every other day consistently. Even a couple of days off can affect my progress quite significantly. Also losing weight is *fucking* hard when you're actually proper middle aged (44)

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 13:06 
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I have similar "problems". My weight appears to be going up but there's definite fat loss.

I've stalled a bit since I stopped running due to injury but back on it last night with a 7.4km run, and my mate has convinced me to run a half marathon in December with her so I guess I'll be training for that now! ?:|

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Trousers wrote:
I went to Boots today to get weighed thinking I would be under 15 stone. Nope - actually 15 stone 6

My waist, however, is getting smaller and I haven't grown an extra chin. Only possible explanation is that I am defying the laws of physics somehow and gaining muscle whilst getting thinner (ok Less Fat)

They key definitely appears to be sticking to the routine - I notice the biggest differences if I train every other day consistently. Even a couple of days off can affect my progress quite significantly. Also losing weight is *fucking* hard when you're actually proper middle aged (44)


That's not really defying the laws of physics. Muscle is a lot, lot denser than fat. Women are out off by exercise that builds muscle because the scales don't give them the news they want to see. Body builders who gain weight aren't getting fatter and it's certainly not unusual for them to gain a few kgs while their waist size reduces.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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It is defying it somewhat in that (diet-wise) in order to gain muscle you need to eat more than your required intake of calories (with the right balance of protein) and in order to lose fat you need to eat less than your required intake of calories.

A bodybuilder gains mass through eating loads (and pumping iron) but that mass is muscle and fat. They then go on a "cutting" phase to reduce the fat which involves minimal calories and hardly any fat. The muscle helps that process.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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yes, but you are not really building muscle as toning and increasing the density of what you had before. I bet you thigh muscles are much more muscley err really slender and toned no, err toight, like a tiger showing increased muscle density, and the thighs are pretty big. You can increase the weight of them without making them bigger, especially when you are going from a low starting point.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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And you might find you have this period of getting heavier/showing no change while getting fitter, but stick at it and then have a period where you do get lighter. Certainly happens to me - I had a bad Mar-Apr, put on some weight, did lots of cycling in summer and lost some weight, then put it on in a month off; now I've upped the running and cut down the cycling and my weight isn't changing, but I'm hugely fitter than I was. Barely ran in July but after a good few weeks I felt like I could have run all night this evening.


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 22:42 
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I am still 17stone. It is not dropping.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 23:20 
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KovacsC wrote:
I am still 17stone. It is not dropping.


Do you feel your body is changing though? I genuinely don't give a toss about my actual weight; I just want my clothes to fit again.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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I am still 17stone. It is not dropping.


Do you feel your body is changing though? I genuinely don't give a toss about my actual weight; I just want my clothes to fit again.


I am the opposite none of my clothes fit me all too big.

Yes I have noticed a difference. Legs are a lot more toned and my number looks great.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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KovacsC wrote:

Yes I have noticed a difference. Legs are a lot more toned and my number looks great.


Yes I thought that when you got your 'number' out in the car. You durty wee fecker.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Went to the cycle show yesterday an the NEC, bought some great cycling clothes for lycra fit well. The brand you ask?

It is Fat Lad at the Back (FLAB).. :DD

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Put on half a stone in the States. Not surprising with all the gourmet burgers and craft beer. So, starting the 5/2 diet today.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Put on half a stone in the States. Not surprising with all the gourmet burgers and craft beer. So, starting the 5/2 diet today.



What is the 5/2 diet?

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:54 
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Aside from a period just after puberty I've never been particularly happy about my weight, but after becoming increasingly pissed off with it over the last few years, I vowed to do something about it. And splitting up with ex-Mrs B gave me a bit more control over what I was eating so I cut my calorie intake right back.

I'm no kind of cook and preparing meals has never really done anything but annoy me so the range of stuff I'm eating isn't very imaginative, but I'm not really struggling at all to stick to it. I've been at it a good few months now and lost a shit-ton of weight pretty quickly--to the point that every time I meet someone who hasn't seem for a while they're stunned, including someone at the weekend I hadn't seen for eight years so I must be smaller again than I even was back then--and although that's slowed down I'm still losing a few pounds a week-ish if the scales at the pool are anything to go by.

I'm still drinking beer and having a take-away or eating out at the weekend so it's not like I'm denying myself so it seems to be pretty sustainable so far. Although, out of curiosity, I just counted up the calories I'm consuming in a typical weekday, and it's hovering around the 1300 mark which I think might be pretty low? And I'm wondering whether there's likely to be any serious detrimental effects from running a low calorie diet like that over a long period of time. I'm not really sure why I'm posting this, just because it was on my mind and this thread popped up unread I suppose.


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:00 
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Do you feel happy? Do you not feel tired? Can you do everything you need to do in a day? Can you still exercise? Do you feel healthy?

If the answer to the above is yes, then your calorie intake is fine. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Trooper wrote:
Do you feel happy? Do you feel tired? Can you do everything you need to do in a day? Can you still exercise? Do you feel healthy?

If the answer to the above is yes, then your calorie intake is fine. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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KovacsC wrote:
American Nervoso wrote:
Put on half a stone in the States. Not surprising with all the gourmet burgers and craft beer. So, starting the 5/2 diet today.



What is the 5/2 diet?

Five days normal balanced diet, with two days of fasting per week.

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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Technically it's actually 5 days of eating what the fuck you like and 2 days of fasting, but 5 days of a healthy balanced diet if probably even more sensible.


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 Post subject: Re: Middle Age Spread
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Not eating for 2 days.... :o

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Trooper wrote:
Do you feel happy? Do you not feel tired? Can you do everything you need to do in a day? Can you still exercise? Do you feel healthy?

If the answer to the above is yes, then your calorie intake is fine. :)


Fair points all, and "yes" so indeed everything is fine!


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KovacsC wrote:
Not eating for 2 days.... :o


600 cal a day for two days. Not eating much, but it isn't completely avoiding food.

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Cras wrote:
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Not eating for 2 days.... :o


600 cal a day for two days. Not eating much, but it isn't completely avoiding food.


And it isn't 2 days consecutively, it's 2 days out of 7, but they can be any days you want.


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Cras wrote:
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Not eating for 2 days.... :o


600 cal a day for two days. Not eating much, but it isn't completely avoiding food.


:o

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I rejoined the gym yesterday. Sitting next to the unending pile of biscuits in the office isn't exactly helping me.

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I just ran a quarter of a mile* - people who do that for fun are weird

*wearing a mini dress and heels. And chasing a postman.

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Trooper wrote:
Cras wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Not eating for 2 days.... :o


600 cal a day for two days. Not eating much, but it isn't completely avoiding food.


And it isn't 2 days consecutively, it's 2 days out of 7, but they can be any days you want.

Yesterday and tomorrow work for me.

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I just ran a quarter of a mile* - people who do that for fun are weird

*wearing a mini dress and heels. And chasing a postman.

I'm assuming you were being chased by a Vicar, who was being chased by a lady in a bridal gown, who was being chased by a surgeon in scrubs, who was being chased by a bunch of women in bikinis, whilst Yakety Sax was playing?


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It was something like that. Then he invited me into the back of his van (so I could get a parcel)

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Mimi wrote:
I just ran a quarter of a mile* - people who do that for fun are weird

*wearing a mini dress and heels. And chasing a postman.


That is how I always run

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Wearing a mini dress and heels, or chasing postmen? (or both?)

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You've met Kovacs. It's obviously both.

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Early days, but lost 3lbs on my fast day yesterday. Went to bed at 8pm though!

Don't feel overly hungry today either. :)

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I put 10Kg on my bench press and a couple of Kg on my 21's in the last week but more importantly I am off to buy new jeans at lunch.

So let's see if my waist size is in any way proportionate to my "almost obese" BMI of 29....

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Since I wear my trousers with the waistband right on my hips, my waist size hasn't varied from my peak weight of just shy of 15st to my current 13st 4lb.

My arse has got smaller though :)


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Since I wear my trousers with the waistband right on my hips

Hipsters.

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Broke my 5km PB last night - 28 minute something - not sure how much I trust the Strava app though, even after I edited the GPS data to give a more accurate run route it seemed to be a bit wonky :shrug:

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36 inch fit me with some room to spare. Not as good as I hoped but not as bad as I feared.

However my shirts / T shirts are tighter across the chest than my waist so something is going right.

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36 inch fit me with some room to spare. Not as good as I hoped but not as bad as I feared.

However my shirts / T shirts are tighter across the chest than my waist so something is going right.


I am now in 34" jeans... *happy dance*

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However my shirts / T shirts are tighter across the chest than my waist so something is going right.


Good to hear the breast implants are working out for you.


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Trousers wrote:
However my shirts / T shirts are tighter across the chest than my waist so something is going right.


Good to hear the breast implants are working out for you.


£25 a squeeze. No kissing.

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How much for kissing?


Birthday kisses are free

Will send postcode for SatNav

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How much for kissing?


Birthday kisses are free

Will send postcode for SatNav


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