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| Author: | WTB [ Sun Jun 03, 2012 16:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The Last Salmon Man wrote: Alberto wrote: The Last Salmon Man wrote: Alberto wrote: I don't think it's that good Probably best you stick to stuff like Megamind... And you stick to your irrelevant digs whenever I offer an opinion on anything game-related? Fair enough. Oh dear. Coming from the King of Irrelevant Digs, that's amusing! Cunt! And, er, shit bassist! And shit baseball-er! |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Finished! Contrary to popular opinion on here, I really enjoyed it. It was pretty much what I expected - an interactive gung-ho action movie, and I wasn't disappointed. I was just happy to get back into the world of Max Payne after so long, and Rockstar have done a cracking job, in my opinion. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Jun 04, 2012 19:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The Last Salmon Man wrote: Finished! Contrary to popular opinion on here, I really enjoyed it. It was pretty much what I expected - an interactive gung-ho action movie, and I wasn't disappointed. I was just happy to get back into the world of Max Payne after so long, and Rockstar have done a cracking job, in my opinion.  Rockstar have pitched this game perfectly IMO, it feels like Max Payne, it sounds like Max Payne (fantastic touch getting the same voice actor back and nods to the original music and sound FX), it looks like Max Payne (mostly!) - it is the same thing done again with modern fancy graphics to an extent, but there's enough of a new world and a new story and new touches to make it a fantastic contemporary game, and most importantly, I want to actually see what happens to Max because I care about him as a character. Approximately 1000% better than Alan Wake and 5000% better than Diablo 2. Only downer is I have to wait until AE Jnr is safely upstairs before I can play it 'cause it all looks and sounds so damn violent! |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 13:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Well it's here. All four dual layer DVDs. I hope they're not buggered, my DVD drive is making some horrible noises 
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 16:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Max Payne 3 |
Get an Xbox. |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 16:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Thoughts so far. Not good. I don't really like the "Drunkovision" it's a bit annoying. Where the fuck is manual save? Why do I have to be stuck in it unable to quit when I have had enough. Why do I have to wait ages for the ability to quit? I used "hard lock" for aiming, which makes head shots practically impossible unless you want to get shot up dragging the aim dot to the head. Good. It's pretty. The shooting is fun. I like the story so far, especially the bit back in NJ. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 19:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
MaysLanding wrote: I don't really like the "Drunkovision" it's a bit annoying. Cinematic innit! TBH I found it far less annoying than Alan Wake's blurryvision. Quote: Where the fuck is manual save? Checkpoints innit. Annoyed me at first but it does make it a bit more tense because you can't just quicksave/quickload like I always used to do in the originals. I've grown to quite like it. Quote: Why do I have to be stuck in it unable to quit when I have had enough. Why do I have to wait ages for the ability to quit? Cinematic innit! Just ALT+F4! Quote: I used "hard lock" for aiming, which makes head shots practically impossible unless you want to get shot up dragging the aim dot to the head. You big fanny you've got a mouse, do it properly! Innit. |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Thu Jun 07, 2012 20:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The cut scenes are too long winded for a KBM. I'd much rather just sit back and enjoy with the pad. As soon as I reached the "corrupt not very nice policeman" bit I had no choice but to perfect the headshot. Got it nailed now. But it does kinda piss me off you can't just save and quit. If I ALT+F4 then I have to sit through another load of cut scenes. Don't get me wrong I really like the game, but I just wish that after all of the hard work they put into the PC version (and they have, even the Direct X options are about as complex as can be) they would have spent the time to add a save and quit. Would have been perfect then. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Playing through the Brazil section now where Max goes baldy. (Well I was last night anyway, needless to say it's not a game to play when AE Jnr is around, I can just imagine the questions 'Happened to man's face daddy? Happened there?') Absolutely loving the game to pieces, I can finally forget about the clusterfuck of Alan Wake and enjoy a proper Max Payne game again. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
I was playing Modern Warfare when the Grimlet was small, and I shotgunned a guy in the face - to which the Grimlet said "Ouch". I stopped playing 
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Grim... wrote: I was playing Modern Warfare when the Grimlet was small, and I shotgunned a guy in the face - to which the Grimlet said "Ouch". I stopped playing Max is brutal, man. A face shot literally tears a hole in their face and leaves a gaping hole in their head. I played the game all day yesterday. Even when I wanted to put it down it made it hard for me. I'm now at what I think is the last bit. Once that's done I will play through it at least once again as I didn't realise I was supposed to be looking for golden gun parts until it was a bit too late. I want them now. It is very good. Very good indeed. It does feel like you are in an interactive movie at times leaving you without much to do, but it is all very slick and pretty. AE - that bit is among the hardest in the game. I died loads of times getting out of that. Ed - that's the bit where you need to perfect the head shot or die basically. The bastards are heavily armoured. You want to take the helmet off with one shot, then nail the buggers again in the bonce. |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 16:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Interesting article here. http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2012/ ... analysis/1 It seems that the tessellation is the biggest performance hit. From first hand experience I found it to be the tessellation and HDAO that really made it start to slow down. Sadly, because you only get the menu option once every half an hour I never really got the chance to play with the settings too much. I'm running mine DX11, Tess to normal and FXAA on very high (as Nvidia cards eat it up). Everything else was on max, but I had to reduce the lighting to SSAO which I can't say netted any difference. I guess if you were looking at it rather than into it (IE playing it) you may be able to tell. Either way it seems to be a very efficient engine 
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 16:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
So anyway, back to the actual game rather than this tiresome, turgid technobabble. I've just started my New York Minute playthrough, which is pretty tough going. You have to clear each chapter without dying, in one minute. You get extra time by killing each enemy, but I'm struggling on Chapter II! I end up dying, but still have two mins on the clock, so maybe need to slow down a bit and not try to rush through it. You can play as Old-School Max with his weird grimace from the first game, which pleases me oddly. The multiplayer seems to be holding my attention for longer than GTA IV or RDR. It seems more focused and polished, definitely. I do tire of online multiplayer in general anyway, so I don't think this will be any exception. It's fun for now, though. |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 17:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Sounds like fun ! I've sworn myself off it for today. Yesterday I sat and played it almost continually for 13 hours. Then I realised at 1am that I hadn't had any dinner, my bath, or anything else. I felt quite woozy lol. Had stuff to do today, so won't let it drag me in* *until tonight, when no doubt it will have my nuts in its vice like grip. |
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| Author: | ThomasPaul [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 18:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
What hardware configuration supports Max Payne 3game? |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 18:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Pentium 200MMX, 250MB HDD space and 128MB RAM. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 18:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
That's a hell of a lot of RAM for such an otherwise basic system. |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Fri Jun 08, 2012 18:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
ThomasPaul wrote: What hardware configuration supports Max Payne 3game? Minimum specs are quite harsh on this one. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 15:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Still playing this and still loving it. Still doing some bits time and time again just because it's such stylish fun. About 45-60 minutes per session is enough after AE Jnr is in bed, it's a bit intense for an old fart like me. (Quite challenging in places too, even on normal difficulty.) |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Jun 11, 2012 15:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
WTB wrote: That's a hell of a lot of RAM for such an otherwise basic system. I like to push the boat out, memory-wise. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06 ... nst-other/ BRILLIANT Quote: Anyone found to have used hacked saves, modded games, or other exploits to gain an unfair advantage in Max Payne 3 Multiplayer, or to circumvent the leaderboards will be quarantined from all other players into a “Cheaters Pool”, where they’ll only be able to compete in multiplayer matches with other confirmed miscreants.
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/13/oho-max-payne-3-cheaters-forced-to-play-against-other/ BRILLIANT Quote: Anyone found to have used hacked saves, modded games, or other exploits to gain an unfair advantage in Max Payne 3 Multiplayer, or to circumvent the leaderboards will be quarantined from all other players into a “Cheaters Pool”, where they’ll only be able to compete in multiplayer matches with other confirmed miscreants. That's a superb idea! hahaha |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 13:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
It's like the Little Savages 2 forum, they've clearly ripped me off. |
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| Author: | MaysLanding [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 13:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
I've not played it since my first day. Mind you to be fair I've not played anything else as I've had tons of crap to sort out. I'm at the airport, and it's bloody hard. That's probably what's kept me from going back because I've been a bit busy with stuff lately and I tend to stress out. Not a good mixture for playing games that are hard 
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 13, 2012 13:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Grim... wrote: It's like the Little Savages 2 forum, they've clearly ripped me off. You didn't invent hellbanning, you know. Or if you did, you should have patented it. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 0:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Finished it, loved it, awesome. Took about 12 hours which for me is fine for a single player story mode. Had a little bit of a lull sometime around Chapters 10/11, but then really pulled it out of the bag for a storming finish in the last three chapters - proper high octane adrenaline fuelled gaming. Quality stuff. |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 0:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Yeah I enjoyed pretty much every minute of that. The writing and voice acting was a notch or two better than previous games which helped. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Excellent. So there are some sane people left on this board with good taste in games. I was starting to wonder! |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 19:20 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
There's been a distinct lack of new gaming interest on the board for a little while. Has there been much/any Bezzie Payne action? I haven't really played much of the multiplayer at all but if there's interest I wouldn't mind a few games. |
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| Author: | metalangel [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 19:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Ian Fairies wrote: There's been a distinct lack of new gaming interest on the board for absolutely fucking ages. Fixed for truth.
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| Author: | Cras [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 19:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Bezzie gaming works best en masse, in my humble view. Which is why there was a big CoD group for a while, a decent sized BF3 group for a much shorter while. There's not been a large-scale decent multiplayer game that appeals to all since Burnout Paradise though. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 19:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The Halo Reach nights were ace, albeit short lived. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 19:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Ian Fairies wrote: There's been a distinct lack of new gaming interest on the board for a little while. Has there been much/any Bezzie Payne action? I haven't really played much of the multiplayer at all but if there's interest I wouldn't mind a few games. It's pretty good. The Albanian Flid and I have put a good few hours into it and there's some enjoyable game modes. If there's sufficient interest I would be happy to host a night. |
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| Author: | Alberto [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 20:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
This grew on me, although towards the end of my second playthrough on hard it began to drag again, mostly because of the difficulty. Have done a couple of chapters on NY Minute mode which were quite fun, but again, I suspect as I go deeper in that mode I'll get grumpy with it again. Then just Old Skool, Hardcore and NY Minute Hardcore playthroughs to do for the max! Overall I'm decreeing it a 7.5/10 game. And yes, I'd play the onlines multiplazorz if a few fancied it. Lack of general gaming interest on the board or not, I still join in the surprise that a AAA title made by Rockstar only seems to be owned by 3 people on here 
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jun 22, 2012 21:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Ian Fairies wrote: There's been a distinct lack of new gaming interest on the board for a little while. Has there been much/any Bezzie Payne action? I haven't really played much of the multiplayer at all but if there's interest I wouldn't mind a few games. I realise I'm on the wrong platform for Bezzie Payne but I haven't even looked at the multiplayer, I bought it solely for the single player story mode. BF3 is for multiplayer hijinks
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jul 13, 2012 19:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT. Down to £14.99 in the Steam Summer Sale. I played the game through once, took about 12 hours and then I uninstalled it. It was a cracking good game but I'd have felt happier only paying £15 for it......  I think I might start waiting for Steam sales/reductions in future, this is a really quick price reduction for such a big title. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 20:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Bloody Hell! Due to the naysayers in this thread I only started playing this tonight. It's fucking great! |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 20:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Grim... wrote: Bloody Hell! Due to the naysayers in this thread I only started playing this tonight. It's fucking great! You should know by now that this place is full of the greatest curmudgeons known to mankind. Yes, it's great.
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| Author: | Alberto [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 21:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Grim... wrote: Bloody Hell! Due to the naysayers in this thread I only started playing this tonight. It's fucking great! I said "slightly less nay" as the thread developed... see my final verdict just above from over a month ago. I escape all blame! |
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| Author: | Alberto [ Thu Jul 26, 2012 23:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Here's a big-time negative though - the multiplayer is ruined now if you haven't been playing it incessantly since release and unlocking all the good weapons and perks. You'll get destroyed and hate every second, because that is what game developers think you want nowadays. Awful. |
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| Author: | metalangel [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 0:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Alberto wrote: Here's a big-time negative though - the multiplayer is ruined now if you haven't been playing it incessantly since release and unlocking all the good weapons and perks. You'll get destroyed and hate every second, because that is what game developers think you want nowadays. Awful. Isn't it? Being able to compensate for having no life by spoiling the game for noob fags? |
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| Author: | Alberto [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 0:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
metalangel wrote: Alberto wrote: Here's a big-time negative though - the multiplayer is ruined now if you haven't been playing it incessantly since release and unlocking all the good weapons and perks. You'll get destroyed and hate every second, because that is what game developers think you want nowadays. Awful. Isn't it? Being able to compensate for having no life by spoiling the game for noob fags? The sad thing is that we have this discussion in so many different threads now, because it's so prevalent. I understand the rationale of rewarding people with unlocks the longer they play/more objectives they meet, because it is nice... but there's no thought given to the players who dip in and out for whom this is a game-breaking experience. Or worse, there IS a thought for them, and that thought is "fuck 'em, they ought to play our wonderful game more" and they consciously focus the rewards on the hardcore fans who don't actually need the incentives to keep playing because they'd play it anyway - they're hardcore fans after all! Aside from the obvious problem of lazy developers simply cut and pasting from the CoD template, I wonder if perhaps part of the problem is the new phenomenon of recruiting all the beta testers from among the hardcore shooter playing community; every big shooter seems to have a beta code for some other future big shooter multiplayer extravaganza packaged in with it nowadays. I can't help but think this skews the testing pool somewhat, and all the feedback will be about which guns are too powerful and which map layouts suck, and there'll be no more casual players in the pool saying things like "actually, if you're not great at the game then you get annihilated by boys with bigger guns and want to play something else". Just musing. Bizarrely, the game that handles multiplayer the best IMO is not really thought of as a multiplayer game at all. Assassin's Creed (both BroHo and Rev) handles it very well since while you unlock nifty new abilities as you rank up, both ways to kill your prey and ways to defend yourself from your hunter, the game autobalances as you go. Each round you will have one target to kill and one hunter hunting you at the beginning... but as the game goes on, the players at the top of the leaderboard begin getting multiple hunters assigned to them, making it harder. The flipside of that being that if you are struggling, you'll find you stop getting a hunter assigned to you so you stop getting pwned at every turn and things become a little more manageable, despite your repertoire being a little more limited. It works fantastically well. More of this sort of thing please. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The ironic thing though, is that despite copy and pasting the CoD template, CoD is probably the best example of a game that you can genuinely compete in from day one. Yeah, you unlock more weapons, but they're all balanced against each other. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Not really. I always found each CoD's multiplayer fun and forgiving at first, but when I took an inevitable break for a few weeks, found it almost unplayable when I came back to it - it's just as bad as any other. Back in the day online shooters weren't any better, though. Doom and Quake required map knowledge so you know where all the best weapons are. Gears still does this. |
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| Author: | Alberto [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The Last Salmon Man wrote: Back in the day online shooters weren't any better, though. Doom and Quake required map knowledge so you know where all the best weapons are. Gears still does this. True, but that can be overcome by following a teammate around until you learn. Max Payne has no weapon spawns, you spawn with access to whatever you've unlocked already and any lower ranked player has no access to pick anything as good up in-game until they've ground out ties extra 20 levels. Spending a few rounds learning weapon spawn points seems almost heaven by comparison. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
The Last Salmon Man wrote: Not really. I always found each CoD's multiplayer fun and forgiving at first, but when I took an inevitable break for a few weeks, found it almost unplayable when I came back to it - it's just as bad as any other. Back in the day online shooters weren't any better, though. Doom and Quake required map knowledge so you know where all the best weapons are. Gears still does this. How?! Are you just shit? Nothing changes or unlocks that gives longer players a significant advantage - beyond people knowing the maps better... Edit: Just noticed you actually complained about that in your second para! What sort of game doesn't allow people to get better at it the more they play it?! You can't honestly be complaining about that! |
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| Author: | metalangel [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Playing Counterstrike again has been eye-opening. There's no permanent unlocks, just the per-round money system. |
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| Author: | WTB [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
CS will never get old! I still maintain CoD does the unlock thing the best though. For example in BLOPS I used the FAMAS pretty much exclusively, and that was available from like Level 4 or something. I never had trouble coming top in games. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 13:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Oh no, I fully accept that you need to learn the maps to get any good at games. You're saying that red dot sights etc don't make a difference though? You're living in a dream world |
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| Author: | Morte [ Fri Jul 27, 2012 13:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Max Payne 3 |
Pah...play Team Fortress 2 instead. I've started playing this again quite a bit recently and even though it's gone free 2 play with micro transactions to pay for better kit the advantages they give seem to be only marginal and speaking as someone who's been away from the game for over six months I can still hold my own (usually placing mid table on my team). |
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