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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 14:55 
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Currently I'm finishing off the last book of Julian May's the Saga of the Exiles Series 'The Adversary'. It must be the sixth or seventh time I've read the whole series. This time it's taken much longer than normal as I was interupted by reading the Game of Thrones books after watching the first series.

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Currently I'm finishing off the last book of Julian May's the Saga of the Exiles Series 'The Adversary'. It must be the sixth or seventh time I've read the whole series. This time it's taken much longer than normal as I was interupted by reading the Game of Thrones books after watching the first series.


Corking series of books, as were the others associated with them.

I am currently reading 'Empire State' by someone or other. It is about a prohibition bootlegger in the 1950s, and also about a private detective. And also parallel universes. And superheroes. And gas masks.

It's not quite as good as it sounds, but entertaining enough.

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I am currently reading Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth' series. They are bollocks, don't read them. They are appallingly written, the characters are hateful and idiotic and the entire thing is riddled with plot devices and series extending bullshit. That said, I want to know what happens so am 5 books in (of 13 :( ). it is kind of like Lost, in that you can anly hope there is a solution that is good because otherwise you have wasted so much time.

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Goodkind is worryingly obsessed with rape.

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Goodkind is worryingly obsessed with rape.


Isn't he just. One of the things I most remember is him describing a raider breaking open the skull of a village "idiot" in the third book. Hollow thuds. Like a coconut.

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you are correct. the only decently written section in the first book is the bondage section. the only decently written section in the second book is the bondage section. guess which the only decent bit of the third book was.

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Bobby - won't Wikipedia have a synopsis, or maybe there's a wiki for the whole thing? I've no problem reading these for shite books with a hint of curiosity as to how it all pans out. I do it with films as well.

Ice and Fire's quite rapey too, I suppose. It's not entirely without purpose, for that is the sort of world it's set in, and the punishment for those not of noble birth caught at it is knob off or go to serve at the Wall. Plus certain interventions in said circumstance serve to effectively redraw characters and add depth. Mostly it's (mostly) women being threatened with it... and I suppose that makes a better dramatic tension ratcheter than yet another 'certain death' peril scenario. Plus you've got flaying, beheading, burning, drowning etc so it's just one of the many horrible colours Martin paints with.


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I like how every book spends 500 pages about Richard not knowing how to use his sword, then at the end he knows how use it for a while and fixes shit, then forgets.

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That's Lolita done. Thoroughly fucking excellent, but a tad creepy at times. Wouldn't read a paperback edition on the train.

Now to try some Lovecraft, I guess. I intend to start A Game of Thrones at some point soon but it's dauntingly long.


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Ice and Fire's quite rapey too, I suppose. It's not entirely without purpose, for that is the sort of world it's set in


Quite. Goodkind appears to do it because being an author gives him the ability to make people be raped. Often.

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That's Lolita done. Thoroughly fucking excellent, but a tad creepy at times. Wouldn't read a paperback edition on the train.

Now to try some Lovecraft, I guess. I intend to start A Game of Thrones at some point soon but it's dauntingly long.


I'd say get the first book done, most people tend to do it at a canter because it's excellent. Get it read by April 1st and you can pick up with the second series on telly, then read that.


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I like how every book spends 500 pages about Richard not knowing how to use his sword, then at the end he knows how use it for a while and fixes shit, then forgets.

Yeah, it is annoying because the other sections are okay, but anything with Richard and/or Kahlan in seems to be appalling.

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My favourite book of them was the one where Richard was taken away to Hogwarts to learn shit, but the nuns were all evil and he had to kill them. Was it Temple of the Windy Bottoms? Can't remember. I gave up on Goodkind at around book 5 or 6. Hell's Bells has read them all though.

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Can you ask her if they get any better?

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If you haven't already, read the Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb. Some of the best books I've ever read. Blarted like a twat at them, too.

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Thanks again, I was just about to ask for recommendations!

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If you haven't already, read the Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb. Some of the best books I've ever read. Blarted like a twat at them, too.


:this: And the follow-up books too, the Tawny Man trilogy.

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Started reading At the Mountains of Madness.

It's good!

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They've discovered... Something. It's hotting up! He's bloody good at building tension, isn't he? I was falling asleep after I hit around 20% according to the Kindle, and I dreamed some pretty frightening dreams. Fuck you, Lovecraft.


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If you haven't already, read the Farseer Trilogy by Robin Hobb. Some of the best books I've ever read. Blarted like a twat at them, too.


:this: And the follow-up books too, the Tawny Man trilogy.


:this: And then the follow ups to these, The Liveship Traders and The Rain Wild series

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Werl, Liveship was wrut between the two Fitz trilogies. Hence The Fool being a character in there and whatserface being in Tawny for a couple of chapters. :nerd:

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Has anyone read the Hunger Games trilogy? It's actually very good, I couldn't put them down and read each one in either one or two days.
I can't remember which book I've got lined up next but my weekend starts tomorrow so I'm sure I'll read something. Must remember this thread, looks like there are some good recommendations in here. With this thread and the whisky thread giving my ideas I think I'll have a good few days off :D


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This bloody Lovecraft book has me shitting my pants. I'm going to finish it off later today. Balls to reading it in bed again.


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Has anyone read the Hunger Games trilogy? It's actually very good, I couldn't put them down and read each one in either one or two days.
I can't remember which book I've got lined up next but my weekend starts tomorrow so I'm sure I'll read something. Must remember this thread, looks like there are some good recommendations in here. With this thread and the whisky thread giving my ideas I think I'll have a good few days off :D


The wife loved them, but said I might not like them as much.

In happy news, though, the studio making the Hunger Games movies are also making movies of the Chaos Walking trilogy, which are super awesome. That's 'The Knife of Never Letting Go' and sequels, with the talking dog and 'Noise' and whatnot.

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Has anyone read the Hunger Games trilogy? It's actually very good, I couldn't put them down and read each one in either one or two days.


I've got about 10% of the first book to finish reading before seeing the film. I like the world the book is set in, maybe more than the lead character. The leanings towards its teenage girl target audience is very obvious.

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I guess I was expecting more "Can I actually kill someone?" rather than "I hope that boy at home don't mind me kissing this other boy".


And for a book called "The Hunger Games", they talk a lot about eating food.


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The Hunger Games has been criticized for its similarities to the 1999 novel Battle Royale. Although Collins maintains that she "had never heard of that book until [her] book was turned in,"


Yeah, but I bet you've seen the fucking film! How could you not have heard of Battle Royale?


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If you've never heard of Battle Royale, I neither want to read your book not watch your film.

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Well that were good. Ta for the recommendation Dimrill. Gomna do Call of Cthulhu next seeing as it's nice and short.


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You want to read Herbert West: Reanimator too.

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See also: The Colour Out Of Space and The Shadow Over Innsmouth. You can get some dead cheap collections, like.

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Yeah, someone should mention that. :attitude:

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The Hunger Games has been criticized for its similarities to the 1999 novel Battle Royale. Although Collins maintains that she "had never heard of that book until [her] book was turned in,"

Yeah, but I bet you've seen the fucking film! How could you not have heard of Battle Royale?

Quite easily, I'd wager. I'd not exactly mainstream.

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The Hunger Games has been criticized for its similarities to the 1999 novel Battle Royale. Although Collins maintains that she "had never heard of that book until [her] book was turned in,"


Yeah, but I bet you've seen the fucking film! How could you not have heard of Battle Royale?

yeah, yeah... And J K Rowling had never heard if The Worst Witch...

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I can't really get over this bit:

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The Hunger Games has been criticized for its similarities to the 1999 novel Battle Royale. Although Collins maintains that she "had never heard of that book until [her] book was turned in,"


Yeah, but I bet you've seen the fucking film! How could you not have heard of Battle Royale?

yeah, yeah... And J K Rowling had never heard if The Worst Witch...


Jill Murphy attended the same school as Mummy Afterthought. Ursuline convent School in Wimbledon. She was a couple of years above Mummy Afterthought. This came to light after attending a talk JM was giving, and her telling of how she based the characters on teachers from her school. "Hmm" thought Mummy Afterthought, "this sounds awfully familiar".

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Ice and Fire's quite rapey too, I suppose. It's not entirely without purpose, for that is the sort of world it's set in, and the punishment for those not of noble birth caught at it is knob off or go to serve at the Wall. Plus certain interventions in said circumstance serve to effectively redraw characters and add depth. Mostly it's (mostly) women being threatened with it... and I suppose that makes a better dramatic tension ratcheter than yet another 'certain death' peril scenario. Plus you've got flaying, beheading, burning, drowning etc so it's just one of the many horrible colours Martin paints with.


I find his writing about things like that excruicatingly painful. Especially the "...and then they had lesbian sex" bits. it seems to exist purely to attract teenage boys to the series. I find it quite unnecessary. It seems he feels the need to stick sex of some kind in it every so often just to keep them reading.

EDIT: For instance, tehre's a whole chapter in one of the books about some bloke being on a boat and the various sexual stuff he has done to the captaibn's daughter. It didn't really advance any plot, in any way at all, and was, to boot, shitly written.

EDIT 2: This isn't me banging my "Martin can't write books for shit" drum, it's a common problem I have with books. iain M Banks is also guilty of this.

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EDIT 2: This isn't me banging my "Martin can't write books for shit" drum, it's a common problem I have with books. iain M Banks is also guilty of this.


Have you ever read Eddings? Not in the same league explitness wise due to the main audience of his books, but he has literally no ability to write any scene that involves a woman. At 12yrs old, I even noticed it, it is that bad.


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EDIT 2: This isn't me banging my "Martin can't write books for shit" drum, it's a common problem I have with books. iain M Banks is also guilty of this.


Have you ever read Eddings? Not in the same league explitness wise due to the main audience of his books, but he has literally no ability to write any scene that involves a woman. At 12yrs old, I even noticed it, it is that bad.


No, I haven't. I think one of the reasons I dislike it so much; is that you're being drawn into the writer's sexual fantasies. Which is creepy, when it's a late middle aged man with a beard sat at a typewriter, his fingers going tap tap tap rhytmically on the keys, pecking out a pulsing beat to which see, you get the idea, don't you?

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Goodness me, that's why Stieg Larrsssson is so unreadable to me. Every single woman from the ages 17-70 turns up at fantasy Larrrrrssssson's door saying 'let's f**k!'

Just ruins the book, and is one reason the film is actually superior to his dross.

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EDIT 2: This isn't me banging my "Martin can't write books for shit" drum, it's a common problem I have with books. iain M Banks is also guilty of this.


Have you ever read Eddings? Not in the same league explitness wise due to the main audience of his books, but he has literally no ability to write any scene that involves a woman. At 12yrs old, I even noticed it, it is that bad.


Valid point, but the thing that realy put me off Eddings was his need to stereotype everyone in his books

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All Algars sleep with their horses..... found his writing very meh


He does it to a lesser degree in his Sparhawk series also and i gave up entirely on the new books which his wife has helpped make even worse.

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Well, Slaughterhouse-Five was excellent. So excellent that I powered through it in two days. Might be time for Game of Thrones finally!


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