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Well I hope it's just been a mistake on their part, if not that really is a shit and underhand thing to do. What a cowardly way to spoil peoples fun.

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What's wrong with flickr? I use it for my personal photo hosting and I quite like it.

Well, this, basically. And some other stuff.


Flickr saw you taking pictures of the station, waved at you and asked you to stop?

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Something like that.

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I shall pass on the complaints.

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Dear beteo

Your Picasa account beteo.pics was removed after a complaint was made about an image that you had uploaded. This image was deemed unsuitable and offensive and your account closed. Your account has been re-instated following your email and the offensive picture removed. Your account is under review so please ensure that no more images of an unsuitable nature are uploaded.

Picasa and Google terms and conditions can be (blah blah blah)


So yeah, just someone being a bit vindictive I assume. There is no picture missing from the account from when I last saw it active so it must have been something that was uploaded after I last checked.

Oh well.

Richard Gaywood has kindly set up an alternative set-up in his web album, which was extremely generous. I will get everything a bit more organised and PM all those that would like to carry on taking part. I will change the password of the current Picasa album now, also, just for teh time being and will sort something out as far as that is concerned.

OK, party on.

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 Post subject: Re: BETEO Picture account
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Mimi - only disclose the password by PM to entrants? It'll mean you know who's entering, but still. Seems a simple solution as it's obviously a board user/visitor who hijacked it.

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I think it is perhaps for the best.

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<complaint from : jane>

i am offended by this cleeky photo thing. i am sad and lonely and people do not let me play. please delete their stuff for i am high and mighty and they do not know who they are messing with.

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 Post subject: Re: BETEO Picture account
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I don't know who it was.

I hope it wasn't anyone from here though, that would be so upsetting and disappointing, especially with the silly arguments and back-biting the last day or two that seems to have sprung from nowhere.

Can we all just get back to normal with no sour grapes and no petty silliness, please?

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Mimi wrote:
I don't know who it was.

I hope it wasn't anyone from here though, that would be so upsetting and disappointing, especially with the silly arguments and back-biting the last day or two that seems to have sprung from nowhere.

Can we all just get back to normal with no sour grapes and no petty silliness, please?



I would say it was a lurker here, rather than an active member.

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Maybe I took the theme too far when I painted my genitalia blue, red, and yellow and uploaded the photo.

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Whilst it is a shame that such pettiness can cause such an outcome we should be glad it only results in people being even more 'excellent' to each other.

I am guessing this wasn't the outcome that the anonymous one was looking for. Be glad.

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Maybe I took the theme too far when I painted my genitalia blue, red, and yellow and uploaded the photo.

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Can we all just get back to normal with no sour grapes and no petty silliness, please?

No YOU eat grapes. Wait, what? Who's deleted what now? I didn't really read this. Oh dear. Well, I know I certainly had absolutely nothing to do with it, and I can't imagine who might have.

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Mimi wrote:
Can we all just get back to normal with no sour grapes and no petty silliness, please?

No YOU eat grapes. Wait, what? Who's deleted what now? I didn't really read this. Oh dear. Well, I know I certainly had absolutely nothing to do with it, and I can't imagine who might have.


No, well it was hopefully someone from 'elsewhere' and not one of the members here.

Oh well.

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Is it possible that someone posted an image that was deemed offensive, but which wasn't maliciously intended? Y'know, just going a bit OTT?

Given the recent Gaywood furore, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

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Don't suppose Google will give up the IP address of the person that uploaded the photo so we can match it to a user here?

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Worth an ask - I bet they cite the Data Protection Act, though.

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CUS wrote:
Is it possible that someone posted an image that was deemed offensive, but which wasn't maliciously intended? Y'know, just going a bit OTT?

Given the recent Gaywood furore, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.


but someone complained, surely that's going to be the same person who uploaded it?

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I doubt it.

There are no publicly available links tot he pictures and no-one would see the pictures unless they were specifically looking at the account, which would only be people from here.

if someone here thought that something wasn't right I'd bet my now empty wallet that they'd either say on the board or contact a mod or maybe myself, not complain to Picasa. Also, the picture was uploaded and complained about at the same time, between 10pm and midnight, so I do not have any doubt that it was malicious.

I did ask if I could have any information about the complainee (?) but they ignored that in the reply.

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Spinglo Sponglo! wrote:
CUS wrote:
Is it possible that someone posted an image that was deemed offensive, but which wasn't maliciously intended? Y'know, just going a bit OTT?

Given the recent Gaywood furore, it certainly wouldn't surprise me.


but someone complained, surely that's going to be the same person who uploaded it?

Malc


Yes, I am pretty much certain of this given the timescale in which it all happened.

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cleek = cleek, apparently.


Yes, we're waiting for the person responsible to show up and explain that one.


I forgot I did that. I was just fed up with Jonarob making a post every five minutes about it having turned into a clique here, so I changed the spelling for a larf.

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cleek = cleek, apparently.


Yes, we're waiting for the person responsible to show up and explain that one.


I forgot I did that. I was just fed up with Jonarob making a post every five minutes about it having turned into a clique here, so I changed the spelling for a larf.


I have to say I'm a bit puzzled by the complaints about cleekiness.

You CANNOT have a forum that has regular posters without cleeks forming or there being in-jokes. They're the natural results of a bunch of people talking to each other on a regular basis and getting on well. Surely?

And it's not like any of the regulars have turned round to a new poster (except Bruce Everiss) and said "Fuck off, you're not one of us". Everyone has, as far as I can tell, been incredibly welcoming to everyone else.

To prevent the "cleeks" forming naturally everyone would have to post less and be less interested in each other. Which sounds decidedly unexcellent.

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Yep, wot Mr Cleek said. It's basically because he hadn't been around at all and didn't 'understand' any of the threads.

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Yep, wot Mr Cleek said. It's basically because he hadn't been around at all and didn't 'understand' any of the threads.

I'm around here loads and I dont understand half of them.

Thankfully I have other insecurities to worry about so this doesn't bother me.

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Thankfully I have other insecurities to worry about so this doesn't bother me.


The emo thread's that way :arrow:


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Anyway, it's all silly. And can someone change the spelling back because it is really, really annoying :smug:

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I think it has been changed back. I'm just saying 'cleek' cuz it's funny.

Clique.

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I like it. I like leeks, too.

I like the word smock most.

Smock smock smock smock smock.

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I didn't previously like leeks, but lately am coming around to their charms. Yes!

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I didn't previously like leeks, but lately am coming around to their charms. Yes!

You should try cheesey leeks CUS. Om nom nom.

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Leek, potato and cheese in a big oven dish. MMMMMM.

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Sorry guys, I'm just trying to organise the set-up and organisation of the alternative home(s) for the pictures and it would be handy if people didn't think this had descended into another thread about perceived cliquiness or what cheese people liked with their potato bake as people might think that nothing relevant was going to be posted here anymore when I am still working hard to 'fix' things at this end whilst this thread looks like more nonsense now.

Thankyou. :)

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Oops. Sorry.

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OK.

The account kindly set up by Richard Gaywood in his gallery is working wonderfully

I have also changed the password to the current Picasa album and downloaded the pictures from there onto my laptop which I am uploading to Mr. Gaywood's site.

I have, on top of this created a DeviantArt Album.

The reason I have done this for the ease of the user. I will think of Richard Gaywood's album as the 'main' one, but if people would rather anonymously upload to either the Picasa or DeviantArt that is fine. Also because there are image size limits in Richard Gaywood's gallery and if anyone is unable to crop and re-size images when uploading directly from cameras, resizing options are easy on both these sites and I can copy and upload a smaller one directly to Richard gaywood's site for you. You only need to upload to one of these three options and I will collate the pictures in the same vote thread and move any that aren't in Richard's album there in a smaller format.

Please state in this thread or the current challenge thread if you would like to participate at any time and I will send out PMs with the relevant info once the folder structure is complete on each.

OK - I posted most of that for open-ness and transparency on what I am am organising, but in summary it is far more simple:





HOW IT WILL WORK

1) If you want to take part in the photo competition, say so in this thread.

2) I will PM you with the log-in details to Richard Gaywoods album, Picasa and DeviantArt

3) Upload you picture(s) anonymously to any one of these sites using those log-in details

4) Sit back and wait for the voting.

5) Smile.


PS: It will probably be later tonight or tomorrow that I send actual log-in details out to people. Thankyou all again for being excellent, and sorry about the set-back last night.

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So!





So :?: :hat:

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1) If you want to take part in the photo competition, say so in this thread.


:bulb: :munkeh: :hat:

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Ah!

OK, I will PM you the new info this evening or in the morn.

My brain is too tired to realise what you did there :!: :smug:

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I should point out that image resizing is done at upload, Mimi, and is automatic. Also it never crops, it only caps to a max width of 1280 and a max height of 1024. If you feed it a 10MP image composited from lots of shots at 4000x500 it will make a 1280x160 out of it. You shouldn't have to do anything -- if you do, it means it's broken and I have to fix it.

I chose these numbers at random -- I wouldn't have bothered but as we've clearly had abuse on the other forum I thought I'd protect myself. If anyone wants those numbers to get bigger I will make it so immediately.

If there's anything I can do to accomodate the use of my server over the other ones, so as to save Mimi some compilation work, please holler and I will sort it out.

Also, clearly, I have full access and IP logging on the server so if someone abuses this one I will trace their asses (also, the takedown notice would come to me! So no real problems there).


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I don't think you need bigger sizes unless it's some kind of pixelpeeping competition to see who has the sharpest lens.

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Oh, that's most fantastic, Richard. Thankyou again, and the size is perfect.

Ace: I only said that in case people were uploading directly from cameras and couldn't crop their images, but as Richqard has just clarfied that re-sizing is automatic it is all fantastic.

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I've upped the thumbnails to four rows/five columns on each page. Should make for better browsing. I've also disabled the display of the EXIF information as that shows which camera each image was taken with and could be an identity giveaway.


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I was only commenting on Richard's offer to increase the photo size, I wasn't referring to anything else.

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Oh, I see.

Ah, 'tis getting me down a bit now :(

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