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I don't remember it doing this.

Perhaps I only does it for wierdoes who use non inverted controls. Or something.

Whichever control scheme you choose at the start should be used throughout though.

I use invert-y controls.

You can change this in the settings. I'm pretty sure it's the first thing I did.

Ah, that might be it. I use the proper control scheme.

Tsk, I'm going to have to load it up now to check.

Well?

Yes, the controls are a bit daft; yes, the text is almost illegible in SD; yes, Frank is weak as fuck at the beginning. I don't care about any of this, because the game is so glorious I can see past these flaws.

I actually like the save system, because it means staying alive is paramount. If you could just quickload from a moment ago, all the tension would be removed.

I did enjoy Dead Rising: Case Zero though. That was quite fun for a while.

That doesn't happen in good games.

How many times have you died in Gears of War before the checkpoint and had to do the whole section again? I don't really see the issue.

There's nothing wrong with them. The options allow you to play with the settings, and there's no inversion. The only possible oddity is having to use the left stick to aim weapons, but that's kinda required if you hold your thumb over the fire button, and having your thumb there removes any possible confusion anyway, unless you're spacky headed.

It doesn't send you back to the start of the fucking game.

Or make me drink fucking orange juice.

Neither does Dead Rising. Unless you're approaching it entirely wrong.

You get the option, . You either start again with your levelling carried over, or you can choose to go back to the last time you saved.

Don't try or expect to 'win' the game. Don't try to game it - just run around splatting zombies in silly ways and have a laugh.

It's a brilliant game that someone's stapled several massive, INFURIATING problems onto, but it can still be great fun if you don't let it get to you, and don't try to beat it. Just have a laugh and see what happens, and eventually you'll have levelled up to the point where you can have a go at the big missions and story stuff without it being totally hateful (it's still annoying, though).

Also, try shooting aiming and shooting at a zombie in aimy mode with no item equipped.

Yeah, the deafault controls are idiotic - the camera controls completely differently from everything else you aim from a first person perspective. I think it even uses a different stick. Best changed right away, but the controls are still clunky as hell.

I found it to be an utterly brilliant challenge trying to 'win' the game. There was nothing like it at the time: the ticking clock, trying to manage as many survivors in the time effective way possible; it asked far too much of you but the insane challenge was gripping as soon as you got used to roughly where the survivors would pop up and at what times. It was you 'had' to play it through several times so you were prepared for that perfect run.

Of course that never came but the best moments I had involved those moments when you're juggling so many survivors "I've got fat guy, black woman and the three school brats but only 5 minutes to get Japanese woman...and maybe, just enough time to get guy in suit...quick everyone into this shop everyones getting frying pans!"

So the original Dead Rising thread has died and we've gone back to the beginning to argue all over again? How apt. Hope you all saved your XP!

Also:

Has this forum come full circle?

The original thread was on WOS not on here (although it spilled over into a few different threads here)

Technically you're right, it was a Dead Rising 2 thread... but nobody talked about it because nobody bought it because everyone agreed the first one was shit so just talked about that. Is how I remember it.

Assuming you can read the text.

I bought it. I decided it deserved to be allowed a fair try, and I must admit I lasted longer with it than I did with the first.

I bought and finished 2 + Case Zero + Case West - however I cant see any reason to go for the new one (look its malibu stacy in a new hat!)

Heres the thread : viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3222

Anyone that uses a gun in Dead Rising is a fucking idiot, you might as well be throwing a bag of crisps at them.

Anyone who hates Dead Rising doesn't deserve Dead Rising. Fuck off and let us enjoy it. I'm scared later games will be ruined because so many people don't understand that it's not really a sandbox game. In fact, it's more like an old skool scrolling beat-em-up, like Final Fight, but with multiple endings.

Yes indeed. I remember full well the final fight tactic of getting to the stage three boss and having to restart the game three times before I'm good enough to beat him.

I'd say I view DR the same way I view Deus Ex. Brilliant game with horrid shitty boss fights.

Nah, it's rubbish.

Nah, it's great.

Nah.

Yeah.

Meh.

You make a fair point.

Nah.

I realised today that a member of my family is one of the survivors.

Is it Fry?

This really is my all-time favourite game of this generation. I just:

You're playing it again, eh? I fucking loved DEAD RISING as well. Truly my favourite of the generation. Until Dark Souls. Get Dark Souls you tit. They actually have a lot in common. They have that thing I was going on about a few months ago that I like that tends to arise in Japanese games more often than Western ones. Get Dark Souls.

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viewtopic.php?p=571073#p571073

Get Dark Souls.

Yes, I have been dipping into the Dark Souls thread and I suspect it would very much be my sort of game. I may invest with my Xmas money.

And yeah, I'm playing this again. Missed the snuff photo achievements on my True Ending playthrough, and I've become hooked again. I just got Perfect Gunner and Hella Copter. Now I'm contemplating starting again and killing 1,000 zombies bare-handed. Help!

Well that's Dark Souls thoroughly off my list then. Zardoz likes it and it's got a lot in common with Dead Rising? Yikes.

You'd be missing out. You'd also be a fool to take two very general factors together like that as an indication that you won't like a game you've never played before. And besides, the thing they have in common is an almost ethereal thing I explained in the post I linked to, rather than any specific gameplay elements. You total belm.

edit: Although, reading what I was talking about in that old post again, that might actually be a little hard on Dark Souls because it actually succeeds in most if not all of the things it tries to do. And that's what makes it truly one of a kind.

edit edit: I'd be willing to let it slide if the reason you're wary that Zardoz likes it is because you hate Zardoz personally rather than his curious taste in games.

Zardoz hated Dead Rising as well, though.

Things that are similar:
Exploration is a must.
No loading old saves because you've cocked up. Mistakes will be punished.

I also loved Dead Rising. I've got the sequel, but I haven't played it.

I only have the XBLA spin-off to Dead Rising 2 (by some quirk, the full version is unlocked on my machine as well as my brother's), and have never spent any time with the others. Would this be a good place to start?

In short, yes. I will write a more informative post tomorrow.

Splendid, cheers!

Oh shit, I thought you meant 'would Dead Rising 1 be a good place to start', sorry. I would strongly recommend playing the first game first.

Hehe, fair enough. I'll try and borrow it soon.