I assume to the more hardened gamblers seeing someone like me doing this immediately marked us out as an idiot whose money would soon be in their pocket

There was a cheat of sorts on a noughts and crosses game I was on about a while back.

If you had some nudges which didn't result in a win, and then on the next turn had the opportunity to hold, ignore the hold. If you didn't hold anything and carried on as normal then you'd always spin in a winning line.

It was only £1 but it did work (on the 2 or 3) occasions I tried it

Add me to the list of people who've never seen the point of Fruit machines. I used to put cash into a Space invaders one a while back but thats about it. I'm more a penny falls type of guy, they seem more fun and my favourites are either Namco's Pacman ball or Haniwa De Go (by Taito). I don't know if they can be simulated or indeed emulated, but they are about the only gambling type thing I can be bothered to sink a pound or two into.

I appreciate the advice from you and AE though - I'm trying to sort myself out again at the moment. Currently I'm at the stage where I'm blogging my progress daily just to have an incrementing record of my thoughts at the time so that I'm not bottling stuff up. I'm on a whole 8 days without so far, so it's very early days yet though.

(I tend to keep all this crap out of the Nay thread)

31 days now. (Obviously to normal folk, a month is nothing, but considering how this year has gone, I was doing well if I'd go a week without) If I make it to 12 months I might even post in the Yay thread.

Congrats - keep it up dude

Seriously, in six months time you won't have a clue what to do with all the spare cash.

I did get it going but there was so many faffs and moving files around - what i'd love is a simple way to get a set of files so we could do a challenge and get people playing stuff like The Adams Family and posting scores.

I may have another go at the weekend to get something usable.

I'm such a fucking

Just run the VisualPinball executable as a fucking administrator, job done. It popped into my head yesterday and I just remembered to give it a try now.

There must be something around the vbscripts that Vista/Win7 doesn't like unless you run it with elevated privileges, as it was always when processing the scripts that it bombed out before launching.

TWILIGHT ZONE AHOY!

Right - after C64 stuff lets see if I can package up a set of pin tables for the next challenge !

Blimey.. good going there. I've never really played any of the £70 machines, or indeed most of the modern machines with features as I could never be bothered learning/finding out the best ways to play them.

(Oh, and 98 days without gambling now, so I'm not about to find out)

:facepalm:

I seem to remember reading this kind of thing before. Many times from many people. Don't get sucked in again man.

The £70ers are pretty brutal, catch one wrong and it'll take £200 over the back and give you a flat £70 for your trouble. I got a proper kicking off one a couple of months ago (£150 down) but learned enough from that to get the profiles pretty much sussed, and haven't come unstuck since then.

Yeah, think on.

The only one I did play was a Bullion Bar type clone called Pure Gold (I think). I've never seen it pay a jackpot, although on the feature I have seen the combined win value reach £70 once. It also has a Mega Streak type feature which I've never seen anyone get either.

I've also put £250 through it in one session. Me=mug.

This must be like what my gf hears when I talk to her about computers...

From the other viewpoint, I like not knowing anything about newer machines - it means I'm less tempted to invest the time in figuring them out.

As I said to my chum last night, 'I ain't here for the view motherfucker!'

Now post the graph from your internet fruit machine experiment.

£3000 is a lot of red.

But I had SCIENCE on my side!

Admittedly it turned out to be bad science, but still.

So basically, it was your £100 jackpot watered down to 10p. But it had a memory of being a hundred quid, and that was the main thing.

I don't get it

A joke on the bad science part relating it to homeopathy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy where instead of medicine or even natural remedy's instead things are diluted until they contain absolutely none of the original ingredient but contain the 'memory' of it.

'homoeopathy rack'

JackpotParty do a 'Double Your Play' promotion the last full week of every month, whereby they match a deposit 100% up to a maximum of £200, with a 20x wagering requirement.

What I'm trying to work out are the chances of basically getting some 'free slotting' (or near enough) on the promotion.

Here are my numbers..... I have chosen a small stake to reduce variance and increase the number of spins. As more spins = less variance and closer to the expected average return over time.

(I am using the game 'Bruce Lee' as my example slot, on 30p per spin, 95% average return.)

Deposit £200 to get the maximum £200 match-up bonus, so £400 to play with, but a £4000 wagering requirement before any withdrawal can be made.

£4000 = 400,000 pence

400,000 pence at 30p per spin = 13333 spins required to meet the wagering requirements

At 95% average return each 30p spin 'costs' 1.5p (5% of 30 is 1.5)

£400 = 40,000 pence, so should 'buy' 26,666 spins (40,000 divided by 1.5)

26,666 spins x 30p = £7999 wagered

AVERAGE luck should therefore meet the wagering requirements with the original £200 deposit intact and available for withdrawal.

These numbers aren't precise, because at Jackpot Party the payout on all the slots is split 92% for the base game, and 3% to the progressives, so for the above theory to hold true you'd have to hit at least the bottom progressive jackpot (usually around £50-£100 with the bonus presents taken into account) more than once, which is probably unlikely.

And of course, whether applying to the base game or the progressives, 26000 spins isn't enough to achieve a true average return, so good luck will see better results, bad luck will see worse results.

Do you always watch the amounts go up like that or was that for the purposes of the video? I normally skip everything!

Nice bit of luck that.. be interesting to see if it lasts. Some of the online casinos have some brutal wager requirements. Depending on the software, I'd sometimes have multiple machines running in autoplay, but that's also a good way to watch the money drain pretty quickly too.. particularly on a quid a spin.