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Da5e · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 13:48

I do! But well-produced death metal. The last Desecration, for instance, had kickdrums that practically wandered around the room knocking over pets. Unlike, say Decapitated.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

pupil wrote:

Cool, I'll shout "throughsilver" when I'm at mosher gigs just in case too

Say on here if you're gonna be at any gigs in the future.

Will do. You don't know Brendan (massive shaven headed HC dude who used to Thai box) by any chance? He was quite the 1in12er. Big fan of Stalingrad as I recall.

Quote:

Iron Monkey were brilliant

RIP Johnny Morrow.

Word. Armour of God too. I still have Iron Monkey's Kerrang! Kwiz (OK,they didn't spell it quite like that) on my wall. It's hilarious.

YOG · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 13:55

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All the rest is ok, but it's not grind.

From Enslavement to Obliteration is, mate! Do yourself a favour and grab it!

Da5e · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 13:57

Gorrit. I know it's a big influence on Discordance Axis, but it's still a bit too deathy for me..

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

The 'Axis were pretty cool, yeah. Strange grind/noisecore grey area (a bit like the last Brutal Truth album actually). Got 'em all on vinyl: Ulterior is so cute compared to what they unleashed later.

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

Pantera: Alright, I suppose. Walk is great.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 14:42

Pantera: Alright, I suppose. Becoming is great.

Da5e · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 15:40

throughsilver wrote:

The 'Axis were pretty cool, yeah. Strange grind/noisecore grey area (a bit like the last Brutal Truth album actually). Got 'em all on vinyl: Ulterior is so cute compared to what they unleashed later.

I'm a slavering Jon Chang fanboy; DxAx are probably my favouritest band evar. I have the Necropolitan 7" and everything, I think all I'm missing is the Merzbow remix MD and an original VHS of 7.62mm. I would kill for the TID Perfect Edition.

Gridlink hits in June. Oh yes.

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Oh wow, a Merzbow remix minidisc? I don't think there is any artefact more inherently late nineties than that. Great stuff!

I was always more of a slowness fan (Neurosis, Swans, Mindrot, Paradise Lost, Cathedral), but in the last couple of years I have been all about the speed. I think it's because I have an inherent repellence to what's going on trendwise. Give me bands like Pig Destroyer, Trap Them and Dillinger Escape Plan any day. Yep, even with Puciato on vocals.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 15:59

Just took delivery of the new Leviathan disc. Interested parties may slsk me in a few minutes when it's finished ripping.

Da5e · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 16:17

throughsilver wrote:

Oh wow, a Merzbow remix minidisc? I don't think there is any artefact more inherently late nineties than that. Great stuff!

The whole thing was issued on the Our Last Day release, it's pretty good. Necropolitan has a track with Merzbow accompanying, it sounds like a more focussed Gore Beyond Necropsy.

I like speed, man.

pupil · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 17:10

throughsilver: Brendan? Sounds familiar, probably someone I'd recognise in person if I saw him. I'm good friends with Richard the ex-singer of Stalingrad and his wife. Lovely people they are. Also, mahoosive Swans fan here too (how can a Neurosis fan not be?!), they're probably my all time favourite band ever. I saw their last ever gig in London in 1997. Incredible!

Davydd: You into Narcosis? They are a lot like DiscAxis. Don't go out drinking with them though, they be crazy men!

Dimrill: What's yer slsk name. I'm "Pupilar". I got a 128k version of the new Leviathan last week, tis ace, still working out if I like it as much as Howl Mockery at the Cross yet, but I'm loving the real drums this time, they sound fucking brill.

Klatrymadon: Best Napalm Death I reckon is the Peel Sessions CD, the early stuff pre-Barney is amazing!

YOG · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 17:33

Fuck yeah, the Peel sesh is full-on.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 18:25

Quote:

Dimrill: What's yer slsk name.

sorgh

Pod · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2568

Dimrill wrote:

Just took delivery of the new Leviathan disc. Interested parties may slsk me in a few minutes when it's finished ripping.

What's your slslsksksksk name?

I SHOULD READ THREADS FIRST, SHOULDN'T I?!

Dimrill · **Posted:** Sun Mar 30, 2008 23:41

See above.

Pod · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2568

Dimrill wrote:

See above.

Yes, I know! Hence my EXCLAIMATION! I'm not very good at looking before I peep.

Pod · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2568

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtnCcWOS7y8

This video is rich with brilliance! Dirty guys? Leather Jackets? Ripped Jeans? Motley Crue wannabes? LAZERS FROM THE EYES?! HALF TRACK?!

Bloody hell, it's all my christmaseseseses at once.

BikNorton · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 10074

Davydd Grimm wrote:

kickdrums that practically wandered around the room knocking over pets.

:splutter:

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 14:31

BikNorton wrote:

Davydd Grimm wrote:

kickdrums that practically wandered around the room knocking over pets.

:splutter:

Indeed... I still don't know if he meant those drums were good or bad...

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

Never liked Pantera. To me they were the Slipknot of the early 90s. Everything about them was retarded, from the image (altough that cowboys from hell cover gets points from me) to the lyrics. They're music never did it for me either.

It's always fun to say things like these in metal forums (speccially Portuguese ones) and see their fanboys overreacting in bouts of extreme retardation.

pupil · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 16:20

*overreacts in bouts of extreme retardation*

How was that?

Da5e · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 16:23

I really, really like Slipknot.

pupil · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 16:26

Really, really?

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

Davydd Grimm wrote:

I really, really like Slipknot.

they're music isn't too bad. But their fanboys are a bit less than human. I had the misfortune of going to a festival where slipknot was playing.

Their fans pelted Nickelback with rocks. The concert lasted half of a song. there are videos of that on youtube.

Da5e · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 16:43

Yep. I think they're sparkly.

Jon Chang is selling some of his record collection. Napalm Death/SOB split on red Flexidisc for $150. I'm having that, even if i means no Supersonic for Davydd...

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 16:50

If you don't turn up to supersonic now, well... DIMRILL SMASH!

Da5e · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 16:55

Jon Chang wrote:

324 - Tokyo grinders
$15 "324" First ep x2
$10 "Soulwinter" (x2)
$50 split w/ Slight Slappers flexi (less than 200 made)

AC/DC
$02 "Jailbreak / Show Business"

Adrenalin OD - NJ classic thrash band
$20 "A Nice Song in the Key of D"

Anal Cunt/AC - love em or hate em...
$50 Split /w 7 Minutes of Nausea
$50 "Another EP"
$25 split w/ Psycho
$25 split w/ Meat Shits

Black Vomit - local NJ punk thrash
$03 "It's Only Fun and Games Until Someone Loses an Eye"

Borbetomagus - first noise band ever
$15 "Coelacanth"
$15 "The Original Chirping Chicken / Choking Olga"

Boredoms - before they went for a more Kraut rock sound
$35 "Public Bath" ep #932

Buzzkill
$03 "Meat is Dinner"

Confuse - one of the first noise bands, ever. Pricelss.

$150 "Nucelar Addicts / Violent Party" (red flexi)
$150 "Contempt for Authority and Take off the Lie"
$100 "Spending Loud Night"

Corrupted - you know who they are
$75 split w / Meat Slave (Niku Do Rei) flexi (x2)

Deathside - Japanese punk legends
$50 "The WIll Never Die"
$40 "All is Here Now"

Def Master - Fast and catchy industrial
$25 First EP (HG Fact)

Doom - Japanese Prog Heavy Metal
$15 "Go Mad Yourself"
$15 "Why / Last Stand to Hell" flexi
$15 "Freak Out" (x2)

Dystopia - one of their first releases (and my favorite)
$25 split w/ Grief

Gauze - Japanese HC legends
$35 6 song EP on Prank

The Gerogerigegege - Japanese noise legends
$50 "More Shit"
$50 "Senzuri Monkey Mtal Action"

Gore Beyond Necropsy
$10 split w/ Arse Destroyer
$10 split w/ Senseless Apocalypse
$10 split w/ Minch
$10 "Sounds like Shit"

Hot Toasters - eclectic part pop part thrash
$05 "Fish and Doctor"

In Sane'N The Brain - fucking sick psycho speed grind from Japan
$25 9 song ep (1st ep - untitled)

Intense Degree - old school brit hc
$10 "Released"

Jellyroll Rockheads - thrashing HC from Japan
$25 "Intense and Mild"
$25 "Kill Trend Thrash Demo 1999"
$25 split w/ Exclaim

Masonna - noise master
$50 "Dispersa / Susie's Gone" picture disk
$50 "Masonanie Viva Los Angeles"

Melt Banana - very rare, original pressing
$40 split ep w/ God is My Co-Pilot

Merzbow + Gore Beyond Necropsy
$10 "Rectal Grinder"

Mukilteo Fairies - Fast and pissed hc punk
$10 "Special Rites"

Multiplex - technical Japanese DM
$35 "Demo" (this is 2 songs from demo Uncanny Complex / Hypocritical Instinct)
$10 split w/ Exit 13
$25 split w/ Hellchild
$10 "Quest for the Clearness" (black vinyl)
$25 "Quest for the Clearness" (blue vinyl)

Napalm Death - classics
$20 "Live Somewhere in Europe 1988" (re-release on Guts Records)
$10 "You Suffer" ep
$50 "Live 1989" (Rise 001 -original pressing)
$45 "Mentally Murdered"
$150 Split with SOB flexi (Red - 100)
$75 Split with SOB flexi (Black - 1000)

Niku Do Rei - reigning Tokyo noisecore
$05 split w/ Anal Massaker

Null - ambient
$15 "Shooting Star Crash"

Ogreish Organism - Pill from Lip Cream's solo eps, these are sick fast hc
$30 2nd EP untitled (with silver cover on HG Fact)
$30 "4th Plill"

Pleasant Valley Children - super rare classic by Brit Punk unit
$40 "What the World Needs Now"

Pink Flamingos - insanely fast blast beat HC
$45 Live split w/MVD Live (ltd 200)

Post Mortem
$10 "Ring Around the Rectum"
$20 "Seasoned No Salt makes my beef stew taste like my beef stew" - with Seth from AC

Replusion - ultimate grind unit
$25 "Excruciation"

Revenant - NJ Death Metal legends
$50 "Distant Eyes / Degenration"

Ruins - avant garde and fast as hell
$30 "0'33"
$25 split w/ Dawson
$25 split w/ Schlong

Senseless Apocalypse - grand fathers of Japanese blur core
$50 split w/ Rupture
$50 First EP (untitled, 21 songs on Blurred Records)
$35 split w/ Cripple Bastards

Seven Minutes of Nausea - legends of noise
$30 "Our Culture is Boring" (red color ink/red vinyl)
$30 "Your Father Was a Poser"(blue vinly/blue cover)
$30 "Cancelled"
$30 "The Noise of the Rose"
$30 "XX" (Clear vinyl)
$20 "Disobedient Looser"
$20 Split with Eunuch

SM-70 - total speed out of control hard core from Germany
$50 "Krank"
$50 "Cabuk! Cabuk!"

Space Streakings
$20 "Big Echo" Comic Book and EP

Spine Wrench
$05 "Spite Junkie / Smokescreen"
$05 "Helldrag / Green as a Dying Whore"
$05 "Tapping the Vein / Barbed"
$15 split w/ Def Master

Sunshine Super Scum
$05 "Thrown into your Circle"

Toast - last "good" release by Japanese thrash and hardcore band
$75 "Overbug 9" CD EP

Zeni Geva
$15 "Disgraceland"
$15 "Autofuck" Comic Book and EP

Zone - hc punk like Death Side
$15 "Win Back to Sanity"

Perhaps I might not be eating for a while, man. I want all of those records.

YOG · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 17:11

I like Slipknot's first album. The one they don't talk about now, for whatever reason. It's full of boss jazz bits and funk pisstaking.

Da5e · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 17:43

Mate Feed Kill Repeat? I likes that one. Have you heard Crows?

throughsilver · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 6197

Hey, how do I get that Chang stuff?

Also, legit lol at ruy san.

Da5e · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 19:36

Email [email protected]. The postage might be a bit steep, mind...

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

RuySan wrote:

Their fans pelted Nickelback with rocks. The concert lasted half of a song. there are videos of that on youtube.

Well, Nickelback started it! They were a band long before the fans threw rocks at them (wot? no bottles'o'piss? Shameful.)

Pod · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 2568

To all the people that like Slipknot and do not like Pantera......I.....

CRY.

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 22:35

If it's any consolation, I don't really like either of them.

My Dying Bride is where it's at, if we're talking 90's.

pupil · **Posted:** Mon Mar 31, 2008 23:08

SteONorDar wrote:

My Dying Bride is where it's at, if we're talking 90's.

Oh yes!

Blucey · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1779

I'll tell you what does suck. Modern metal. I'm so very unfussed by metal these days as 99% of the stuff I hear is fucking terrible now. Mainly from watching Headbanger's Ball on the off-chance that I'll see at least something good.

The thing with this new metal shit is that it's not heavy. Take something like 'Trivium'. They start their songs with the usual lightening fast kickdrums and guitars that are crunchy and loud... but it just doesn't move you at all. Then it usually descends into a bent-as-fuck melodic chorus that sounds like 80s hair metal before going into a very techy guitar solo with the emphasis on cheesy harmonised sections.

Or bands just do that Dillenger Escape Plan thing but by the numbers. Spazzed out sections, the usual chromatic bits and silly jazz things that sound contrived.

Eesh.

I certainly don't like where lead guitar is going these days.

Anyway, for what it's worth.

Best metal album = Carcass: Necrotism

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:00

Everyone knows Trivium are crap. But there's a lot of good stuff around now. If you like early Carcass, Davydd or Dimrill can give you more grind than any sane man could ever want.

Me, I prefer the slower stuff mainly, and there'sa hell of a lot of great doom about now. Headbanger's ball may not be the place to find it though...

Da5e · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:28

Necroticism isn't grindcore, you crazy fool!

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:29

Yeah! Quit your jibba jabba!

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 1:48

Davydd Grimm wrote:

Necroticism isn't grindcore, you crazy fool!

And yet whenever I say something isn't grind, you tell me it is - are you messing with my head?

Bah, I'm off to listen to Khanate - that makes sense. To me, anyway...

GeeZa · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 17

Bluce_Ree wrote:

Best metal album = Carcass: Necrotism

I'm a big fan of Bill Steer. I remember watching Red Dwarf one evening when Carcass were on as some sort of bar band and so was jumping up and down pointing at the telly. Napalm Death were funny live, I think I saw them with The Stupids in 1988 at the Clarendon Ballroom in London. Now *that* was a venue. Probably the best in Europe, every time I saw a band there I thought I was going to die.

I saw Death Angel, Holy Terror, DRI (most violent, loudest, nastiest gig I ever saw), Nasty Savage and a whole range of classic American thrash there in the 80s. Amazing shit. God I'm old.

Hmmm Khanate, great band.

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

I agree with you. But i don't mind Trivium. At least they just try to make good songs and have a good time. I prefer that than Dillinger copycats that just want to look all technical and cool.

And another :worship: for early my dying bride. Songs of darkness was an awful album tough. To me they're dead since then.

Bluce_Ree wrote:

I'll tell you what does suck. Modern metal. I'm so very unfussed by metal these days as 99% of the stuff I hear is fucking terrible now. Mainly from watching Headbanger's Ball on the off-chance that I'll see at least something good.

The thing with this new metal shit is that it's not heavy. Take something like 'Trivium'. They start their songs with the usual lightening fast kickdrums and guitars that are crunchy and loud... but it just doesn't move you at all. Then it usually descends into a bent-as-fuck melodic chorus that sounds like 80s hair metal before going into a very techy guitar solo with the emphasis on cheesy harmonised sections.

Or bands just do that Dillenger Escape Plan thing but by the numbers. Spazzed out sections, the usual chromatic bits and silly jazz things that sound contrived.

Eesh.

I certainly don't like where lead guitar is going these days.

Anyway, for what it's worth.

Best metal album = Carcass: Necrotism

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:18

RuySan wrote:

And another :worship: for early my dying bride. Songs of darkness was an awful album tough. To me they're dead since then.

I don't mind that one, there's some good tracks on it. A Line of Deathless Kings, now that's poor. But they'll have to do a lot more than that for me to stop liking them - hell, I still like Paradise lost!

Da5e · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:21

A Line Of Deathless Kings isn't that bad, man! But then, Like Gods Of The Sun is my favourite of theirs.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:22

I wish Paradise Lost had continued on with the Host and Believe in Nothing sound, personally. Although Symbol of Life was an amazing album, I can't get in to the last 2.

Blucey · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1779

GeeZa wrote:

Bluce_Ree wrote:

Best metal album = Carcass: Necrotism

I'm a big fan of Bill Steer. I remember watching Red Dwarf one evening when Carcass were on as some sort of bar band and so was jumping up and down pointing at the telly. Napalm Death were funny live, I think I saw them with The Stupids in 1988 at the Clarendon Ballroom in London. Now *that* was a venue. Probably the best in Europe, every time I saw a band there I thought I was going to die.

yes!

Bill's one of my guitar heroes. His stuff with Carcass was amazing and he was phenomenal live when I saw them supporting Bodycount, who were terrible.

There were only a handful of us getting into Carcass that night. Everyone else was booing them. Cunts.

I love The Stupids as well. For a UK hardcore band they had some really tasty riffs.

Currently I'm struggling. The last thing I've really liked was Poison The Well. I don't what they are classified as but musically they are really interesting and the singer has a great shouty voice. I think they have a touch of the emo about them but not offensively so.

I sort of like one song by a band called Devildriver. But past that they seem shit.

I've struggled with Doom/Black metal stuff because I need some sort of hook behind it rather than Black Sabbath style sludgery or incessant blast beats. Interesting discordant guitar is what I'm looking for.

Still can't get better than Killing Joke's 1982 'Revelations' album. It's still the heaviest most unsettling piece of work ever. But in a subtle kind of way.

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:28

Davydd Grimm wrote:

A Line Of Deathless Kings isn't that bad, man! But then, Like Gods Of The Sun is my favourite of theirs.

You liked 34.788% Complete best last time, you fickle fellow!

Dimrill · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:29

Bluce_Ree wrote:

I've struggled with Doom/Black metal stuff because I need some sort of hook behind it rather than Black Sabbath style sludgery or incessant blast beats. Interesting discordant guitar is what I'm looking for.

Burzum's Filosofem album is for you. Even though he's politically dubious.

SteONorDar · **Posted:** Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:33

Dimrill wrote:

Burzum's Filosofem album is for you. Even though he's politically dubious.

One of my favourite all time albums. He doesn't refer to politics in the lyrics, you have to find that in interviews.

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