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Mimi wrote:
It's crap, but a genuine mistake and not malicious. Get it into your calendar/reminders sharpish x

I'll not be forgetting that again. Grrrr


Do you even get certs anymore, can't see any for mine in our "cars" file. I always put everything in there.

Think mine is due on both Nov\Dec but will check with garage!


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The certificate is online, but you still get a printout for the log. I was just paitently waiting for a reminder

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I forgot once but got away with it for over 3 months.


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The certificate is online, but you still get a printout for the log. I was just paitently waiting for a reminder


So did they pull you over specifically for that, as a result of some sort of sinister big brother database style shenanigans?

Must be nice for everyone that there are no other crimes going on for them to bother with though.

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The certificate is online, but you still get a printout for the log. I was just paitently waiting for a reminder


So did they pull you over specifically for that, as a result of some sort of sinister big brother database style shenanigans?

Must be nice for everyone that there are no other crimes going on for them to bother with though.


Hadn't you heard? Here on the mainland we ranked all crime in order of seriousness and just worked through them because that seemed like the most sensible thing to do. This week is MOT Crackdown and next week it's Minor Theft-o-rama.


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The certificate is online, but you still get a printout for the log. I was just patiently waiting for a reminder


So did they pull you over specifically for that, as a result of some sort of sinister big brother database style shenanigans?

Must be nice for everyone that there are no other crimes going on for them to bother with though.


They can now check for this and insurance instantly, every year or so the local Police set themselves up on the main road near me, they check everyone going past the first check point, anyone not having insurance and or MOT is then diverted into a car park at checkpoint 2.

They also take cars away from people, not sure how this works, guess if you can't pay for insurance or are a serial offender?


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It was on the M6. They were tootling down the inside lane at 50mph causing people to overtake, which I did. As soon as I pulled in front, on comes the blues and I'm pulled over.

I'm six weeks overdue. EEK!


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Halfords helpfully start reminding me of my forthcoming MOT the month after I've just had it done.


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It was on the M6. They were tootling down the inside lane at 50mph causing people to overtake, which I did. As soon as I pulled in front, on comes the blues and I'm pulled over.

I'm six weeks overdue. EEK!


Sounds like entrapment to me, you should have fled at maximum speed screaming something about never being taken alive.

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It happens! I let mine expire this year too, somehow got confused with the tax 'end of the month' thing. Luckily figured it out and got it sorted within a week or so, and the police I drove past during that time didn't have ANPR or weren't that bothered.

No insurance has been an immediate impounding for years, at least in liverpool, dunno if tax and mot are too (i guess they might as it's invalidate insurance you DO have?)


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Gah! Should have happened to me - mine got later and later in the year as I forgot (or just failed to organise) for a month or so each year for, what, three years? I'm better at it now.


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Wife and daughter left hospital yesterday. Midwife visit today. Sent us to A&E as her weight was down 13% from birthweight. Following very long afternoon in A&E, they think she seems fine but are keeping them in overnight to monitor feeding and check weight in morning. Wife in tears, keeps apologising to both of us for "starving" her. This sets me off due to combination of worry about daughter, upset at wife's distress, ditto at daughter's screaming (she didn't enjoy being examined and really didn't enjoy having blood taken from her foot for testing), worry about wife's mental state (she's strong as fuck but never seen her like this including when her dad died) and long-term guilt about my own mother (memories of her being distressed when I was ill as a kid, mingling with inability to talk to her now). Then when I was leaving to fetch stuff from home, had sudden excruciating pain in chest and stomach. Cleared up in a few minutes, but was frankly all I needed today.


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Aww man, that's rough.


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Well, that was a long day and night, but she's gained 100g so they're letting us take her home again this morning. :)


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I know it's easier said than done but try and encourage your wife not to take it to heart - these things happens sometimes. Birthweight can sometimes be inflated by fluid intake prior to the birth, meds, the length of birth etc which gives an artificial 'starting point' and add that to even the smallest delay in milk coming in or feeding that is less than 100% efficient (due to sleepy baby or dodgy positioning or a gazillion things) and it makes the later comparison seem so scary. The vast majority of times this is easily and quickly reversed with some intensive feeding and an upward trend in weight becomes apparent.

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Wife and daughter left hospital yesterday. Midwife visit today. Sent us to A&E as her weight was down 13% from birthweight. Following very long afternoon in A&E, they think she seems fine but are keeping them in overnight to monitor feeding and check weight in morning. Wife in tears, keeps apologising to both of us for "starving" her. This sets me off due to combination of worry about daughter, upset at wife's distress, ditto at daughter's screaming (she didn't enjoy being examined and really didn't enjoy having blood taken from her foot for testing), worry about wife's mental state (she's strong as fuck but never seen her like this including when her dad died) and long-term guilt about my own mother (memories of her being distressed when I was ill as a kid, mingling with inability to talk to her now). Then when I was leaving to fetch stuff from home, had sudden excruciating pain in chest and stomach. Cleared up in a few minutes, but was frankly all I needed today.


Sorry to hear this :(

Not sure how old your baby is now? There is an expectation that they loose a bit of weight in the first week or so, my 2nd son didn't and the midwife commented on the fact she expected him to.

Guess 13% is too much though.

Not nice for your wife, if its breast feeding at issue then there is no issue with bulking out with formula, just ignore the Midwife\NCT pressure on breast feeding. If your wife can do it successfully then great if not then its doesn't matter.

With my first son we didn't take him for the red book weigh in for a month when he was a baby. We found no gain for all that time, so we bulked him out with a bottle for 2 months and my wife breast fed him 100% after that.

Still can't look at the pictures of him at this time without feeling as guilty as fuck :( He looks underweight and its so obvious looking at the pictures now.

This is a hopefully a small bump in the road, guess it doesn't feel like it right now but it will get better :)


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Glad to hear your baby girl has started to put on weight and they'll be home soon. My son was borderline on being taken back in due to his weight but then suddenly started putting on the weight. I'm sure you're supporting your wife as much as you can, just keep at it.

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Guess 13% is too much though.

10% is where they draw the line.

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Not nice for your wife, if its breast feeding at issue then there is no issue with bulking out with formula

This isn't actually true though. Your success story is great but introducing "just one bottle" has destroyed a lot of breastfeeding relationships.

It's been a long time since I touched my BFing counsellor material so call me hypocritical if you want, but IMO you shouldn't be giving advice like that.

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It's been a long time since I touched my BFing counsellor material so call me hypocritical if you want, but IMO you shouldn't be giving advice like that.


:this: My wife was a huge advocate for breastfeeding and I totally agree.


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Guess 13% is too much though.

10% is where they draw the line.

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Not nice for your wife, if its breast feeding at issue then there is no issue with bulking out with formula

This isn't actually true though. Your success story is great but introducing "just one bottle" has destroyed a lot of breastfeeding relationships.

It's been a long time since I touched my BFing counsellor material so call me hypocritical if you want, but IMO you shouldn't be giving advice like that.


I'm not advising, I agree 100% that breast feeding is the best thing. That said I've also seen a number of friends in pieces with guilt when they couldn't do it after trying really hard for weeks.

Recently we had a lactation consultant snip a tongue tie on our son. She told my wife not to take the advice of a specialist to try our son on formula for 48 hours to rule out allergies.

She told my wife that her supply would dry up and that she should feed him all the time as his weight has dipped a bit

So 4 weeks after that my wife spoke with her again and told her that our son was still upset etc.

Her advice was try the formula then :facepalm:

I've found this sort of bad and contradictory advice from a lot of people in this field (NCT, Midwifes etc)

So sorry if it looked like I was anti breast feeding, not the case at all :)


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When my daughter was born, she lost weight like that too, and had to go back in to hospital(on, I think, New Years Eve - she was born on the 18th of December), they advised us it was lack of milk, so we breast/bottle fed. I actually really liked it, as I was able to do my share of the feeding for once. My wife had expressed with the boys, but we really didn't find it worked that well, the boys didn't like the bottle, and Pauline much preferred feeding them naturally. It meant that there was only ever so much I could do in terms of comforting them.

We were worried by the bottle ruining the breast production, (which is why we didn't even consider it with the boys) but I do think in our case it was needed for my (now 8, almost 9, year old) daughter.

I do think the midwives and health care visitors tend to worry about (which makes sense as it's far better to err on the side of the caution then do nothing, and the something bad happens) the magic 10% figure, my daughter was really quite large at birth (I forget the numbers, but it was in the 99th percentile for weight and height) so even though she lost over 10% of her weight, she was still much bigger than most new born babies. I am sure with your daughter it will be something similar, they are just erring on the side of the caution.

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Nik wrote:
Wife and daughter left hospital yesterday. Midwife visit today. Sent us to A&E as her weight was down 13% from birthweight. Following very long afternoon in A&E, they think she seems fine but are keeping them in overnight to monitor feeding and check weight in morning. Wife in tears, keeps apologising to both of us for "starving" her. This sets me off due to combination of worry about daughter, upset at wife's distress, ditto at daughter's screaming (she didn't enjoy being examined and really didn't enjoy having blood taken from her foot for testing), worry about wife's mental state (she's strong as fuck but never seen her like this including when her dad died) and long-term guilt about my own mother (memories of her being distressed when I was ill as a kid, mingling with inability to talk to her now). Then when I was leaving to fetch stuff from home, had sudden excruciating pain in chest and stomach. Cleared up in a few minutes, but was frankly all I needed today.


Sorry to hear that. It'll pick up and then you'll forget about it soon enough. MrsA had visits from lactation consultants and what nots, and M-Dog ended up having a tongue tie done and it all worked out so far. Children can survive for a surprisingly long time without food, and nursing staff are following check boxes to pick up a petcentage of risks so don't worry about that, either. If they come around a lot, you probably have a nice house and make a good cup of tea.

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I'm not advising, I agree 100% that breast feeding is the best thing. That said I've also seen a number of friends in pieces with guilt when they couldn't do it after trying really hard for weeks.

Recently we had a lactation consultant snip a tongue tie on our son. She told my wife not to take the advice of a specialist to try our son on formula for 48 hours to rule out allergies.

She told my wife that her supply would dry up and that she should feed him all the time as his weight has dipped a bit

So 4 weeks after that my wife spoke with her again and told her that our son was still upset etc.

Her advice was try the formula then :facepalm:

I've found this sort of bad and contradictory advice from a lot of people in this field (NCT, Midwifes etc)

So sorry if it looked like I was anti breast feeding, not the case at all :)


It's not about whether or not breastfeeding is the "best thing", it's about making casual throwaway statements of advice based on nothing more than a snippet of information. You need a much bigger picture to be able to make a judgement call on whether or not a baby needs formula top-ups that we just don't have. Offer your sympathies, offer your personal stories, sure... but when you say "there is no issue doing X" when that is patently incorrect, we have a problem.

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Thank you everyone for the kind words and sharing advice and experiences. Due to some issues my wife's had with both breastfeeding and expressing, we're supplementing it with some formula milk, but fortunately Violet doesn't seem to be suffering any nipple confusion and is still enthusiastically taking breast milk too.

It's lovely to be back home with both of them.


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Thank you everyone for the kind words and sharing advice and experiences. Due to some issues my wife's had with both breastfeeding and expressing, we're supplementing it with some formula milk, but fortunately Violet doesn't seem to be suffering any nipple confusion and is still enthusiastically taking breast milk too.

It's lovely to be back home with both of them.

We did that, it made everything much easier for poor Mrs wookie and seren was a lot happier too, hope it works out well for you guys :)


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Thank you everyone for the kind words and sharing advice and experiences. Due to some issues my wife's had with both breastfeeding and expressing, we're supplementing it with some formula milk, but fortunately Violet doesn't seem to be suffering any nipple confusion and is still enthusiastically taking breast milk too.

It's lovely to be back home with both of them.


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I'm not advising, I agree 100% that breast feeding is the best thing. That said I've also seen a number of friends in pieces with guilt when they couldn't do it after trying really hard for weeks.

Recently we had a lactation consultant snip a tongue tie on our son. She told my wife not to take the advice of a specialist to try our son on formula for 48 hours to rule out allergies.

She told my wife that her supply would dry up and that she should feed him all the time as his weight has dipped a bit

So 4 weeks after that my wife spoke with her again and told her that our son was still upset etc.

Her advice was try the formula then :facepalm:

I've found this sort of bad and contradictory advice from a lot of people in this field (NCT, Midwifes etc)

So sorry if it looked like I was anti breast feeding, not the case at all :)


It's not about whether or not breastfeeding is the "best thing", it's about making casual throwaway statements of advice based on nothing more than a snippet of information. You need a much bigger picture to be able to make a judgement call on whether or not a baby needs formula top-ups that we just don't have. Offer your sympathies, offer your personal stories, sure... but when you say "there is no issue doing X" when that is patently incorrect, we have a problem.


Ok see what you mean so maybe so a bit more info...

The weight loss was not due to breast feeding issues, it was reflux, he was getting more than enough milk from my wife, but at the same time was sick a lot. So a paediatrician upped the dose of the medicine, telling us that GP’s tend to always start low and work up with dosing whilst she preferred the other way around. She also said that no women could provide enough milk to catch his weight up so in came the bottle to supplement.

So I guess the no issue thing came from me thinking about what I said to my wife at the time, she was feeling guilty and a shit mother etc, so I said there was no issue with what was suggested as she was not going to be breast feeding any less, but at the same time it wasn’t possible for her to make enough milk to build his weight up. We did it for 6 weeks and then went back to 100% breastfeeding as her supply was always been used 100%

Have the same issue with our 2nd child he is windy and very hard work, he is 5 months now and my wife breast feeds him all the time as it appears that the comfort of this helps him get his wind out. He also has the sleeping pattern of an adult and is awake all day going down at 8-9pm for 5-6 hours

Again we were advised to give him a diary free formula and nothing else for 48 hours, my wife refuses to this, so I’ve said whilst this may not be the magic cure we should try it and if not then she will be having a hard time of things until maybe solids start. She has accepted this and whilst we have understandable days when she gets pissed off she is coping. Don’t really know how she does with a lively 4 year old as well.

Babies are amazing at even a young age, ours refuses to take a bottle of expressed milk from my wife and goes mental if she tries. I can take the same bottle and within 5 seconds he takes it!? Its like he knows that bottle is not the normal from mum, but sees it as a welcome bonus from me


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The problem is, asfish, is you extrapolating your personal experience into a blanket statement of advice as mentioned before. You're effectively giving medical advice for a newborn baby which is dangerous territory.

I could do the same now and tell you everything about your post is wrong based on my personal experience; e.g. I went on an exclusion diet when my son had suspected CMPI rather than use specialist formula. I could tell you that no baby milk has as many calories per ml on average as breastmilk and therefore you were wrong to top up with formula instead of expressed BM. I could tell you 100 things based on my experience but they won't necessarily fit your situation, your circumstances, your preferences.

I don't care how you feed/fed your babies, I do care (passionately) about inappropriate/incorrect advice on breastfeeding.

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