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Mr Russell wrote:

Dr Lave wrote:

I thought it was fantastic.

Like a LOTR fight but with actual peril.

And as for rushing other stuff, I don't see why. They could have ended the season there quite happily.

What about Tyrion?!?!?!?!?!

Hanged off screen.

And as for rushing other stuff, I don't see why. They could have ended the season there quite happily.

I will miss her, she's lovely.

That Tyrion's whore had always been in Tywin's pocket?

So, is the implication:

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

That Tyrion's whore had always been in Tywin's pocket?

I guess we'll never know

Even I was surprised at how easily she turned on him. Being spurned is one thing, even if the dozy bitch was unable to see he was doing it to protect her, and it's another to knowingly lie and condemn him to death in the act. Surely she was a plant from Day 1? Tywin knew of Tyrion's propensity for whores...

Well

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

That certainly makes sense.

Loved the fight with the hound, shame he ended up dead (or is he?), I was sort of hoping they would team up and become some sort of male/female giant dream team!

Shae was shagging Tywin, she was in his bed.

Has the hound actually died? We didn't actually see that!

What was the iron coin thing that Arya have to the boat captain at the end?

Something to do with her fencing teacher?

Was it implied Shae was shagging Tywin, or was the broach of the hand of the king a sentimental reminder for her of Tyrion? I think the latter as Tywin has painted himself/been painted as above that sort of thing and she had served her purpose at the trial. He would not have kept that sort of thing around as the risk would be too high.

It's possible to read it as she genuinely loved Tyrion and felt so betrayed at him sending her away (even though it was the only sensible course of action obviously) that she turned on him out of bitterness and anger. Then, with Tyrion marked for death and Sansa having done a bunk, she was left with no position in the court at all so, for self-preservation, seduced Tywin.)

Still, i never cared for Brann's storyline and yesterday that was the worst part.

3 - What will Ser Friendzone (Ser Jorah) do? I bet he's gonna try to do some crazy grand gesture to 'win her back'.

Also, Grim... is buying the drinks!

MaliA wrote:

Shae was definitely shagging Tywin at that point; when Tywin at one point tried to convince Tyrion move from the privvy into his chamber for a discussion Tyrion said he couldn't as 'she' was there i.e. it was Tywin's bedroom, and thus his bed, Shae had been in when he'd killed her.

To me though there's still a question over whether Shae had been an agent of Tywin the entire time. It's possible to read it as she genuinely loved Tyrion and felt so betrayed at him sending her away (even though it was the only sensible course of action obviously) that she turned on him out of bitterness and anger. Then, with Tyrion marked for death and Sansa having done a bunk, she was left with no position in the court at all so, for self-preservation, seduced Tywin. If it's ever made clear either way in the book I'd be curious to know (in a spoiler tag of course).

He paid the cardboard price.

Probably about as comfortable as the real thing.

MaliA wrote:

If you've watched the latest episode:

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

Was the pardon letter that was received the one that Tywin was writing a few episoes ago?

It was written a long time ago, but sent recently

DavPaz wrote:

Probably about as comfortable as the real thing.

It's a tough job. Not supposed to be comfy.

Mr Russell wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Probably about as comfortable as the real thing.

It's a tough job. Not supposed to be comfy.

You'd know.

Mr Russell, yesterday

Author:	Mr Russell [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:52 ]
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DavPaz wrote: Mr Russell wrote: Dr Lave wrote: I thought it was fantastic. Like a LOTR fight but with actual peril. And as for rushing other stuff, I don't see why. They could have ended the season there quite happily. What about Tyrion?!?!?!?!?! Hanged off screen. Curse my 14'' CRT.

Author:	Bamba [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:56 ]
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Dr Lave wrote: And as for rushing other stuff, I don't see why. They could have ended the season there quite happily. At some level they've got a list of 'stuff' to get through and a very strictly set amount of time to spend on that. The more time you spend on one thing the less you can spend on other stuff; that's just a fact. Obviously it's impossible to know what sacrifices they've had to make in translating the events of the books (though it's obvious when they drop a character and amalgamate others of course) but in something that's got so many characters and events I'd seriously struggle to believe they didn't have to sacrifice anything so we could have what was an extended fight scene with relatively little plot or character development.

Author:	Pod [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:18 ]
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Given that they're running out of books -- let them take their time! I don't know anything about TV show production, so I ask: Why are there only 10 episodes a season? Why not 15? 20? 24?

Author:	Grim... [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 17:57 ]
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Was that the last one? Shit. I owe Curio drinks.

Author:	Grim... [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 17:58 ]
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Oh no, one more. Phew!

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Author:	RuySan [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 18:56 ]
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I was almost getting tear eyed during the last moments of Ygritte, but then she uttered what everyone was asking for and i immediately cracked up. I will miss her, she's lovely.

Author:	ElephantBanjoGnome [ Tue Jun 10, 2014 20:07 ]
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RuySan wrote: I will miss her, she's lovely. You just want that ginger minge. I love the idea that GoT could put 'minge' into the American lexicon.

Author:	Morte [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:54 ]
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It's finished...Booo! Nine bloomin' months till the next one.

Author:	Mimi [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 22:53 ]
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Well that was rather excellent

Author:	Curiosity [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 23:06 ]
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Yeah, some good stuff there!

Author:	ElephantBanjoGnome [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 23:09 ]
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So, is the implication: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That Tyrion's whore had always been in Tywin's pocket?

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 23:10 ]
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The Hound, man. What an actor.

Author:	DavPaz [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 23:11 ]
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote: So, is the implication: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That Tyrion's whore had always been in Tywin's pocket? ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I guess we'll never know

Author:	Malc [ Mon Jun 16, 2014 23:21 ]
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote: Well ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Even I was surprised at how easily she turned on him. Being spurned is one thing, even if the dozy bitch was unable to see he was doing it to protect her, and it's another to knowingly lie and condemn him to death in the act. Surely she was a plant from Day 1? Tywin knew of Tyrion's propensity for whores... ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That certainly makes sense. Loved the fight with the hound, shame he ended up dead (or is he?), I was sort of hoping they would team up and become some sort of male/female giant dream team! Malc

Author:	DavPaz [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 14:40 ]
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1 - Who will be the new Hand of the King? Cersei? Jaime? Someone new? Ser Pounce 2 - What will become of Tyrion and Varys? I assume the latter has left as he knows he'll be implicated in Tywin's death. Organ Grinder show 3 - What will Ser Frendzone (Ser Jorah) do? I bet he's gonna try to do some crazy grand gesture to 'win her back'. Make a play as King of Westeros 4 - What is Stannis's play here? Sweep down from the North and gather support as he goes? Hmmmm... Giant breeding stud farm 5 - What in the blue hell is going on with Bran? I wonder if he can Worg into dragon brains? That's be cool. EYEBROWS 6 - What is Petyr Baelish gonna do next? He's too ambitious to sit in The Eyrie. Dinner Theatre 7 - Is Arya gonna go off and become a legendary assassin? I hope so! First Jerusale, then Venice, then Rome 8 - What will happen to the Mountain? The new doctor chap seemed to hint that he'd become even more of a monster. He turns into a molehill

Author:	markg [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:38 ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1JaUD1tWLo

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:55 ]
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Was it implied Shae was shagging Tywin, or was the broach of the hand of the king a sentimental reminder for her of Tyrion? I think the latter as Tywin has painted himself/been painted as above that sort of thing and she had served her purpose at the trial. He would not have kept that sort of thing around as the risk would be too high. The Hound dying was sad as he and Arya were able to lend detail to the lawlessness of the Kingdoms, and the Dragons bit was OK.

Author:	Trooper [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:02 ]
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Shae was shagging Tywin, she was in his bed. Has the hound actually died? We didn't actually see that!

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:20 ]
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Trooper wrote: Shae was shagging Tywin, she was in his bed. That's quite disappointing I think, as Tywin has showed nothing but disdain for the sort of bedhopping antics everyone else has endured. Especially for a man of his cautious and calculating character, it would have been a huge risk for him to take to get a prostitute to go to Tyrion, for Tyrion to really like her and take care of her for so long, fall in love with her for her to betray him. It'd be far easier for him to arrange a huting accident, or an incident on Tyrion's sojurn to the wall. It seemed rather cheap to go "surprise! they were at it all along" and then to off them both. Trooper wrote: Has the hound actually died? We didn't actually see that! He looked in pretty bad nick, lad, there's not many that'd walk away from that.

Author:	Grim... [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:00 ]
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What was the iron coin thing that Arya have to the boat captain at the end? Something to do with her fencing teacher?

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:03 ]
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Grim... wrote: What was the iron coin thing that Arya have to the boat captain at the end? Something to do with her fencing teacher? Yeah, I think he said something like "You'll know when you'll need it" when he gave it her. She's turned proper evil, hasn't she? It's awesome to watch her transformation into someone so cold.

Author:	Slightly Green [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:04 ]
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Grim... wrote: What was the iron coin thing that Arya have to the boat captain at the end? Something to do with her fencing teacher? no not the fencing teacher, Jaqen H'ghar the assassin that killed 3 people for her gave it to her when he departed telling her to give it to any Bravosi with the words Valar Morghulis and they would help her find him.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:05 ]
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No, the man with the changing face who helped her escape from harrenhall gave it to her and said 'if you meet someone from Bravos give them this and say the phrase'.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:11 ]
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Grim... wrote: What was the iron coin thing that Arya have to the boat captain at the end? Something to do with her fencing teacher? It was given to her by the Faceless Man who did all the killing for her.

Author:	Squirt [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:11 ]
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It was given to her by the face-changy man who she rescued and then killed people for her.

Author:	Mr Russell [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:19 ]
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I AM BEST!

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:24 ]
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I am somewhere in the middle. Also, Grim... is buying the drinks!

Author:	DavPaz [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:28 ]
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It was Ned.

Author:	Bamba [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:34 ]
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MaliA wrote: Was it implied Shae was shagging Tywin, or was the broach of the hand of the king a sentimental reminder for her of Tyrion? I think the latter as Tywin has painted himself/been painted as above that sort of thing and she had served her purpose at the trial. He would not have kept that sort of thing around as the risk would be too high. Shae was definitely shagging Tywin at that point; when Tywin at one point tried to convince Tyrion move from the privvy into his chamber for a discussion Tyrion said he couldn't as 'she' was there i.e. it was Tywin's bedroom, and thus his bed, Shae had been in when he'd killed her. To me though there's still a question over whether Shae had been an agent of Tywin the entire time. It's possible to read it as she genuinely loved Tyrion and felt so betrayed at him sending her away (even though it was the only sensible course of action obviously) that she turned on him out of bitterness and anger. Then, with Tyrion marked for death and Sansa having done a bunk, she was left with no position in the court at all so, for self-preservation, seduced Tywin. If it's ever made clear either way in the book I'd be curious to know (in a spoiler tag of course).

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:54 ]
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Bamba wrote: It's possible to read it as she genuinely loved Tyrion and felt so betrayed at him sending her away (even though it was the only sensible course of action obviously) that she turned on him out of bitterness and anger. Then, with Tyrion marked for death and Sansa having done a bunk, she was left with no position in the court at all so, for self-preservation, seduced Tywin.) Sounds reasonable. Thinking about Tywin some more: The narrative between him and Tyrion is tricky. He doesn't want Tyrino dead, he would have done it by now,he wants to hurt and torture him (mainly because of his children's terrible behaviour). He did with his treatment of Tyrion's first wife and has done it again with Shae. I don't, however, think he would have been seduced by her so she could live, Tywin is too cold blooded and calculating for that and would see right through it. It left me a bit disappointed, as it was out of character. I don;'t think he would have turned to her out of grief, either, after Cersei's revalation to him that it was all true.

Author:	RuySan [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 14:08 ]
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Great episode. Still, i never cared for Brann's storyline and yesterday that was the worst part. That fireball slinging kid had some sort of Monty Python's Tim silliness. Stannis annoys the shit out of me. He's dumb and incapable of making any decision without help or advice. And i love that this show makes us care for the bad guys. I felt really sorry for the Hound. He was a great character. Also Tywin: He's a prick, but quite a charismatic one.

Author:	ElephantBanjoGnome [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 14:14 ]
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RuySan wrote: Still, i never cared for Brann's storyline and yesterday that was the worst part. Yes, entirely agree. I find the character annoying and irrelevant. That brother/sister were also terrible actors and seemingly pointless. Their are lots of moral questions surrounding controlling Hordor, since by nature he's clearly not a neck-breaking thug, and the fact he's of sufficiently simple mind to be controlled is quite sketchy, I think.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 14:36 ]
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Things I am most interested in for the next series: 1 - Who will be the new Hand of the King? Cersei? Jaime? Someone new? 2 - What will become of Tyrion and Varys? I assume the latter has left as he knows he'll be implicated in Tywin's death. 3 - What will Ser Friendzone (Ser Jorah) do? I bet he's gonna try to do some crazy grand gesture to 'win her back'. 4 - What is Stannis's play here? Sweep down from the North and gather support as he goes? Hmmmm... 5 - What in the blue hell is going on with Bran? I wonder if he can Worg into dragon brains? That's be cool. 6 - What is Petyr Baelish gonna do next? He's too ambitious to sit in The Eyrie. 7 - Is Arya gonna go off and become a legendary assassin? I hope so! 8 - What will happen to the Mountain? The new doctor chap seemed to hint that he'd become even more of a monster. And probably some other stuff I can't think of right now. Obv no spoilers from the book crew, plz.

Author:	myp [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 14:39 ]
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8 - Zombie Mountain, obv.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 17, 2014 14:42 ]
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