Game Of Thrones (TV)

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Mr Russell wrote:

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Arya earning her redemption

Hardly – she just

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got hit with a stick a few times

It was very much a “here’s a quick recap on where literally everyone in the world has got to” episode and was, as a consequence, rather shallow.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

MrChris wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

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Arya earning her redemption

Hardly – she just

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got hit with a stick a few times

It was very much a “here’s a quick recap on where literally everyone in the world has got to” episode and was, as a consequence, rather shallow.

I assumed it was the beginning of

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her redemption, rather than the other girl just being shitty and beating her up with a stick every day because she could.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:56

Mr Russell wrote:

MrChris wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

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Arya earning her redemption

Hardly – she just

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got hit with a stick a few times

It was very much a “here’s a quick recap on where literally everyone in the world has got to” episode and was, as a consequence, rather shallow.

I assumed it was the beginning of

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her redemption, rather than the other girl just being shitty and beating her up with a stick every day because she could.

Indeed. I assume that

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Arya will basically turn into Daredevil over the course of this series

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

MrChris wrote:

It was very much a “here’s a quick recap on where literally everyone in the world has got to” episode and was, as a consequence, rather shallow.

It was rather necessary though. When a show is juggling as many potlines as this, you need to ease people back into the world with the first episode. And I disagree it was shallow in any event -- we got some important events or character beats in many of the ~5min vignettes.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:00

MrChris wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Go go spoilers!

Where?

Sansa was last seen jumping off a castle wall, with uncertain outcomes.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

Thoughts on Dorne:

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I could have sworn that the Prince had some master plan in action and was in on the assassination of Myrcella. Was there not a nod to the Sand Snake just before the poison? I was pretty shocked when they killed him.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:45

It nodded my sand snake.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

It was rather necessary though. When a show is juggling as many potlines as this, you need to ease people back into the world with the first episode. And I disagree it was shallow in any event -- we got some important events or character beats in many of the ~5min vignettes.

I disagree - a couple of things happened, but there was very little in terms of character or plot progression, even with those things. I think this is symptomatic of trying to do to much at once - even the books narrowed their focus a bit, and the last couple of books spent maybe a third on each major plot theme/character group

Grim... wrote:

MrChris wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Go go spoilers!

Where?

<br abp="895">Sansa was last seen jumping off a castle wall, with uncertain outcomes.

I don't think that was ever in doubt, and in any event was resolved within a few minutes of the start.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Ah yes, the well known "It's only a spoiler if it happens past the halfway mark" theory.

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

I thought it was a great first episode for the years break. I this was a binge on Netflix and I had seen the last 5 seasons over the space of a month, I would have thought a little different.

It's so nice to not know what is going to happen!

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

Dr Lave wrote:

It's so nice to not know what is going to happen!

Book readers are just as clueless as show watchers.

We are all watchers now.

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

I think there was an huge change in tone between 4th and 5th season, but so far i haven't found anyone who agrees with me. First four seasons were ugly, gritty, more subtle and just looked like typical HBO fare, and i say that as a huge compliment. They felt closer to Deadwood, The Wire and Rome, for example.

Starting with 5th season, it just feels like standard hollywood fare. Just compare the fights. The Hound&Arya Vs The man in the tavern, which was awesome, and all the fights from 5th season, which could have been lifted from Pirates of the Caribbean. This season's first episode shows it's still following in the inferior footsteps of the previous one. Just look at Brienne and Podrick skirmish.

It's all still great though.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

DavPaz wrote:

Book readers are just as clueless as show watchers.

We are all watchers now.

Isn't that not true? I was under the impression that, whilst some of the plotlines had now overtaken the books, others were still some way behind; or that events from the books that weren't used may get reshuffled and reused out of the book chronology in future show scenes.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Book readers are just as clueless as show watchers.

We are all watchers now.

Isn't that not true? I was under the impression that, whilst some of the plotlines had now overtaken the books, others were still some way behind; or that events from the books that weren't used may get reshuffled and reused out of the book chronology in future show scenes.

Having not read the books but having had certain things from the books spoiled for me, you are indeed correct.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Book readers are just as clueless as show watchers.

We are all watchers now.

Isn't that not true? I was under the impression that, whilst some of the plotlines had now overtaken the books, others were still some way behind; or that events from the books that weren't used may get reshuffled and reused out of the book chronology in future show scenes.

I found this from December 2015

BIG SPOILERS

http://newmediarockstars.com/2015/12/6- ... -used-yet/

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

More like it!

Things of import!

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 21:33

Super!

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon May 02, 2016 23:22

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Ramsey Bolton is an absolutely mad bastard!

Morte · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 12:13

Episode 2 really moved things on.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 12:17

Hodor.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2016 22:02

I would find it most amusing if

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Jon Snuuuur literally knows nothing

.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon May 09, 2016 22:02

Grim... wrote:

I would find it most amusing if

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Jon Snuuuur literally knows nothing

.

Boo.

Also 0 stars for the latest episode, and (I think) the one before.

What's happened to Robson or Jerome?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

Jerome was probably on the boat back from Dorne with Jamie

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 9:27

Fun episode. Some slow bits, but some good bits.

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Yay! Fuck you, Olly!

Snow vs Snow for Winterfell should be great fun, and I look forward to Jon killing Ramsay, or assisting in someone else doing so.

The flashback scene was good. That guy with the two swords was a badass! Young Sean Bean is freakishly like Sean Bean. Also they named the other guy he was with; Howland Reed or something. They don't name someone unless they're important elsewhere. I know what's in the tower, but will be fun seeing it all fall into place. Also, Max Von Sydow is as cool as ever.

I normally like the High Sparrow scenes, but that one was a bit dull.

Arya can see. I'm mixed on this. I kind of liked the idea of her as Daredevil! Still, now she can go and kill people.

I like how you can see this generational shift in attitudes. All the leaders of the North were obsessed with banner men and protecting each other and honour and all that. It got every single one of the heads of the families killed, and their replacements in every way are more vicious and cut throat. They'll all betray anyone to get ahead.

I had a dream that was a way better ending though, featuring dragons and Starks and time travel and stuff.

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 9:30

Curiosity wrote:

Fun episode. Some slow bits, but some good bits.

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Yay! Fuck you, Olly!

Snow vs Snow for Winterfell should be great fun, and I look forward to Jon killing Ramsay, or assisting in someone else doing so.

The flashback scene was good. That guy with the two swords was a badass! Young Sean Bean is freakishly like Sean Bean. Also they named the other guy he was with; Howland Reed or something. They don't name someone unless they're important elsewhere. I know what's in the tower, but will be fun seeing it all fall into place. Also, Max Von Sydow is as cool as ever.

I normally like the High Sparrow scenes, but that one was a bit dull.

Arya can see. I'm mixed on this. I kind of liked the idea of her as Daredevil! Still, now she can go and kill people.

I like how you can see this generational shift in attitudes. All the leaders of the North were obsessed with banner men and protecting each other and honour and all that. It got every single one of the heads of the families killed, and their replacements in every way are more vicious and cut throat. They'll all betray anyone to get ahead.

I had a dream that was a way better ending though, featuring dragons and Starks and time travel and stuff.

Oh, totally agree with all of this.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

I really, really hope that Bran is not able to influence anything during his visions

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 10:22

DavPaz wrote:

I really, really hope that Bran is not able to influence anything during his visions

Um... Like when he influenced something in his vision?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

Did he though...

But honestly, time travel?

:spew:

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 10:27

DavPaz wrote:

Did he though...

How would you explain it?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

Coincidence? Hopefully, any influence he can have will be part of a closed loop. Therefore, no power to change anything.

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 11:18

Grim... wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

I really, really hope that Bran is not able to influence anything during his visions

Um... Like when he influenced something in his vision?

When?

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

MaliA wrote:

Grim... wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

I really, really hope that Bran is not able to influence anything during his visions

Um... Like when he influenced something in his vision?

When?

"Father!"

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 11:36

DavPaz wrote:

MaliA wrote:

Grim... wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

I really, really hope that Bran is not able to influence anything during his visions

Um... Like when he influenced something in his vision?

When?

"Father!"

Oh. Yeah. That wasn't like shifting teacups from a table, though.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Grim... wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Did he though...

How would you explain it?

He reacted to the wind.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 12:30

Ming can clearly stop him from doing anything if it looks like it might be able to mess up timey wimey stuff.

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 13:29

Curiosity wrote:

Ming can clearly stop him from doing anything if it looks like it might be able to mess up timey wimey stuff.

It would be cheap. Very cheap.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 13:37

Wait, I don't think there were any boobs last night!

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 13:37

Or the week before.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Depends whether you count

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Saggy ancient Melisandre boobs

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 13:43

Cras wrote:

Depends whether you count

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Saggy ancient Melisandre boobs

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You saw the good boobs before the bad boobs, though, right?

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue May 10, 2016 13:48

That wasn't the last episode.

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

HBO is really pandering to the conservative mainstream USA. Come on, was there any Rome episode without nudity?

Curiosity · **Posted:** Mon May 16, 2016 23:14

Thoughts.

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Go Dany! Some good badassery. Being impervious to fire is a cool superpower.

Ramsey continues to delight.

The tension between Brienne and Davos/Mel is excellent, as is the sexual tension between her and the ginger wildling!

No Bran! I never thought I'd be upset at no Bran! He's back next week though.

The High Sparrow and Lannisters/Tyrells storyline is going a fraction too slow for me, but it does allow for some great Jonathan Pryce soliloquys.

All in all an okayish episode made much better by the antics of Ramsey and the final scenes with Daenerys.

Keep it coming, GoT!

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 17, 2016 6:22

Curiosity wrote:

Thoughts.

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Go Dany! Some good badassery. Being impervious to fire is a cool superpower.

Ramsey continues to delight.

The tension between Brienne and Davos/Mel is excellent, as is the sexual tension between her and the ginger wildling!

No Bran! I never thought I'd be upset at no Bran! He's back next week though.

The High Sparrow and Lannisters/Tyrells storyline is going a fraction too slow for me, but it does allow for some great Jonathan Pryce soliloquys.

All in all an okayish episode made much better by the antics of Ramsey and the final scenes with Daenerys.

Keep it coming, GoT!

Oh. Yes it was superb

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25594

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I really enjoyed last night's episode. I got a little tingle when Daenerys stepped from the flames. I really, really like her. I like that she walks like a boy, is short and curvy. I think she is unconventionally stunning. I wish there were more female actresses like her on the tellybox.

I love Littlefinger. He's so smooth and dangerous.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38463

My thoughts

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I'm starting to get the impression that Danerys is the villain.
It was great to see Sansa finally grow a pair of Starks and *do something*
Sweet Robin is going to be a problem, but hey, the Knights of The Vale are joining the fray (3 years after the war ended)
Osha... wasted. Is this how it is now? Can't think of a way to use a character... KILL? Meh.

Overall: Good episode. Building nicely.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Yes, I didn't like the fact that

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Osha didn't need to be in it at all, except to show her being killed. I was happy she was back, and then just annoyed. I guess because from all the "OH LOOK IT IS AN DAGGER" shots you knew someone was getting killed.

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 17, 2016 10:56

Mr Russell wrote:

Yes, I didn't like the fact that

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Osha didn't need to be in it at all, except to show her being killed. I was happy she was back, and then just annoyed. I guess because from all the "OH LOOK IT IS AN DAGGER" shots you knew someone was getting killed.

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I thought that was to show how completely in control Bolton was. He's no fool and at least one step ahead.

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

MaliA wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

Yes, I didn't like the fact that

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Osha didn't need to be in it at all, except to show her being killed. I was happy she was back, and then just annoyed. I guess because from all the "OH LOOK IT IS AN DAGGER" shots you knew someone was getting killed.

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I thought that was to show how completely in control Bolton was. He's no fool and at least one step ahead.

Yeah, but we already know that much about him, and how ruthless he is. Although you clearly hopes he gets his comeuppance.

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue May 17, 2016 11:18

Mr Russell wrote:

MaliA wrote:

Mr Russell wrote:

Yes, I didn't like the fact that

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Osha didn't need to be in it at all, except to show her being killed. I was happy she was back, and then just annoyed. I guess because from all the "OH LOOK IT IS AN DAGGER" shots you knew someone was getting killed.

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I thought that was to show how completely in control Bolton was. He's no fool and at least one step ahead.

Yeah, but we already know that much about him, and how ruthless he is. Although you clearly hopes he gets his comeuppance.

He's my favourite

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