She has old looking hands.

"A bride's worst nightmare is looking down and seeing her ring has fallen off.

You know it isn't mandatory viewing, right?

Closer than you think, torygraph had a SHOCKING REVELATION yesterday. Kate has apparently commissioned three wedding dresses. I did not read the article in case I accidentally saw the comments section.

You know it isn't mandatory viewing, right?

I for one will delight in the fact that it's not mandatory and will be exercising my right to do something else.

You should see the picture in her attic...

Hopefully I'm down to work on this day so I don't have to see any of it.

I for one will delight in the fact that it's not mandatory and will be exercising my right to do something else.

I might sit around depressingly contemplating British peoples' unfortunate and negative habit of bowing and scraping to an aristocratic überclass that despises them

Yeah, I'm not sure that there's actually anyone in the country that does this. Unless they work at the palace and are, like, paid to.

I meant figuratively rather than literally, natch.

Then I'm not sure what 'figuratively bowing and scraping' means. Other than that it doesn't mean 'bowing and scraping'.

I wouldn't worry - James Joyce made a career out of it.

Well, not being in favour of a republic, then, if you want simpler, more direct language.

Yeah, I'm shit at writing prose, get over it.

I wouldn't worry - James Joyce made a career out of it.

Crowds in Missouri flock to an exhibition about Princess Diana and parties are planned for William and Kate's wedding day. It's like the war of independence never happened…

The 'No' leaflet came through with the Conservative councillor's election conspectus. It says "Your first choice could count as much as someone's fifth choice".

Which is only really bad for the guy whose previous choices had little support. But wouldn't you be happy if someone, deep down, preferred your candidate to your opponents? Bit of an odd argument.

My fear is, and I consider it to be a proper one, is that people will rank all candidates, from 1-5 and then candidate 3 gets in through being the third best choice "If we can't have X or Y, then we might as well have Z". And I don't think that is an accurate representation of democracy. I'll probably be able to articulate this to you better come next week or so, but the hang-up I have over the whole thing is that those that want to change the system stand most to benefit from such a change.

That's not how it works. Your third place choice is only counted if your first and second choices are eliminated from the race as a result of them not getting enough votes.

AV isn't a compromise vote. It's a vote that allows you to support minority candidates without losing all ability to express a preference between majority candidates.

But with AV you don't HAVE to express a preference for 2nd choice, do you?

My fear is that people will.

But people are doing that now, except by tactical voting. They're saying "I really like A, but let's face it, he'll never get in. Same for B, really. So I guess I vote C to stop D getting in."

And voila: the two-party system.

It was only through those fucking EXCELLENT live TV debates that we got anything close to a change this time around.

I think they were a waste of time.

The 'No' leaflet came through with the Conservative councillor's election conspectus. It says "Your first choice could count as much as someone's fifth choice".

I know someone who is going to vote 'yes' on basis that they don't like David Cameron and as Mr Cameron doesn't like AV it must therefore be right to support it. Oh dear.

Is Kate Middleton fit or do the Royal low breeds she stands next to make her appear fit by comparison?

There's too much talk about the merits of Audio Visual in here - I think that AV and Kate's fitness should have been given separate threads.

The conversation around that on b3ta was very useful & insightful funny as fuck
http://www.b3ta.com/board/10391777

EDIT: In fact most of the challenge entries are amusing. http://www.b3ta.com/challenge/yesornotoav/popular

Is it just me, or outside of forum people and the odd person interested in politics, is nobody really interested or even aware of what all this means?