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It's out on the 12th May, date fans.

Surprised you recognise the date, Grim...

Apparently there's a 3min VR experience coming out on May 10 for the PSVR where you play a chestburster! Any takers?

Gaz and I are going later

Gah. Sounds like Prometheus, then: Looks gorgeous, some good performances, but a dumb script.

Yeah, I'm all on board with ignoring Resurrection (that can fairly easily be explained away as Ripley was a clone in that anyway) but ignoring Alien 3 (which is such an underrated movie in the Director's workprint form) is criminal.

What might be interesting though, is if this new film starts and ends on the Sulaco, and they come up with a way of making it obvious that there's a facehugger on board, then Alien 3's main "plot hole" of "how was there a facehugger on the Sulaco when the Queen was blasted out of the airlock*" would be resolved.

They'd need Hicks and Newt back, though.

* The fan theory that the Queen carries eggs with her and leaves them on board doesn't wash with me, on account of being a shit idea.

... the appearance of the big boss alien/human hybrid at the end, which is ludicrous rather than terrifying. They should've got Giger to design it rather than cheaping out.

This Alien 3 Assembly Cut isn't bad.

This girl live-tweets as she watches Alien for the first time, while (somehow) having no idea what the film is about or what happens: https://twitter.com/gaileyfrey/status/7 ... 5967135744

Love everyone bitching around the breakfast table about how they're uncomfortable
in space
— Sarah Gailey (@gaileyfrey) August 6, 2016

It's brilliant!

H/T to Doccy G

This movie should just be called Ripley's Well-Earned Nap

Great stuff. Has she watched any other awesome films?

I still need to play Isolation.

Lonewolves wrote:

I still need to play Isolation.

In VR.

GazChap wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

I still need to play Isolation.

In VR.

Can't. It doesn't support CV1.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 19:53 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Silliness of the characters aside, what makes Prometheus great is the spectacle. Scott is one of those directors who builds sets and tries to direct as much of the action in camera as opposed to green screen and cgi. I've watched Prometheus about three times now, I know it has many shonky moments, but I've always enjoyed it. One of the criticisms of it that never made any sense to me was how Charline Theron dies at the end, as that engineer ship (at least according to Alien and the shot when they first enter it), is at least 100 feet wide if not more (it looks about 10 storeys high in Alien) and she'd need to be pretty fucking quick to get out of it's way.

Author:	DavPaz [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 19:26 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Is this new? https://imgur.com/gallery/OnLNF

Author:	DBSnappa [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:16 ]
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this is out soon. Who wants to see it at imax? Either Sarfbank or Leicester Sq? I think DoccyG has a couple of hours of unpaid overtime pending, so I'll count him out

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:00 ]
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FUCK YEAH Sarfbank is slightly better for me (and it's bigger, right?), but I can do either.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:01 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
It's out on the 12th May, date fans.

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Author:	DBSnappa [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:25 ]
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Grim... wrote: It's out on the 12th May, date fans. It is indeed. I've signed up to their mailing list as tickets aren't bookable yet.

Author:	Zardoz [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:36 ]
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DavPaz wrote: Is this new? https://imgur.com/gallery/OnLNF

Author:	DBSnappa [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:58 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Hmm. It's apparently Alien day, if you do American configuration on the date, then it makes sense. I've read that Fox are going to stream the first 15 mins of Alien: Covenant at 6pm on the official website. Alienuniverse.com Don't bother entering any of the competitions as they're US residents only.

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:01 ]
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Indeed, and some cinemas are celebrating by showing the old movies: https://www.picturehouses.com/cinema/Pi ... alien-70mm

Author:	Cras [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:29 ]
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Surprised you recognise the date, Grim...

Author:	zaphod79 [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:49 ]
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http://www.blastr.com/2017-4-24/sigourn ... n-covenant

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:57 ]
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Cras wrote: Surprised you recognise the date, Grim... FUCK YOU

Author:	DBSnappa [ Thu Apr 27, 2017 18:33 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Apparently there's a 3min VR experience coming out on May 10 for the PSVR where you play a chestburster! Any takers?

Author:	Bamba [ Thu Apr 27, 2017 18:58 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
DBSnappa wrote: Apparently there's a 3min VR experience coming out on May 10 for the PSVR where you play a chestburster! Any takers? Apparently already out for the Rift: http://www.theverge.com/2017/4/27/15451 ... t-bursting

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri May 12, 2017 15:48 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
I was watching Aliens last night, in preparation of seeing Covenant sometime soon, and I was increasingly annoyed that Hudson didn't put his chin-strap on. His bloody helmet was wobbling all over the place. Then I noticed that hardly any of the other colonial marines used their chin-straps either. Load of rubbish. 0 out of 10.

Author:	Satsuma [ Fri May 12, 2017 21:18 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
I like Aliens but:- that sentary gun section was better left out in the first cut. the willingness of newt to call Ripley "mummy" after she blows the queen out the airlock doesn't sit right with me. I'm not happy with Ripley shouting "she's alive" when newt initially gets taken. Oh course she's bloody alive. I really enjoyed the miniatures. CGI can suck a dick. I really hate Hudson's death sequence. Such a great character gets a lacklustre ending. Cor blimey governor I bloody love that the opening bars of that music as the credits roll. I reckon Ripley needed to say something equally sober though before they get in the sleep pods. "Can we dream?" "Yes we can" they say. She should have said "yes we can. There's no monsters anymore". Spindly legs queen looked silly. Spindly legs queen using the lift was daft. Also, why did the lift go back up after Ripley got out? There's no one else there. Tch. Anyway, just some things I mentally noted. I haven't seen Aliens 3 in yonkos but really fancy it now. Wasn't there some kind of ultra cut somewhere that's loads better than the original!? Can someone (probably Hearty) tell me how it's identified so I can [legally pick it up at a lovely retail store]?

Author:	Grim... [ Fri May 12, 2017 23:14 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Technically you saw Lambert's boobs in Alien, bit get nips were covered in a thin strip of surgical tape. Depends on the Craster Scale definition, I guess. I'll summon him to the thread.

Author:	Satsuma [ Sat May 13, 2017 20:43 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
This Alien 3 Assembly Cut isn't bad. The film however really isn't very good at all though. The dialogue is garbage ("it's a queen. I'm it's mother. If it gets off the planet it'll wipe out the universe") and having watched 2 & 3 almost back to back I'm really not very fucking chuffed that Ripley shags Charles Dance. She had some chemistry with Hicks and he's just been mangled not less than a week ago. The timescale doesn't work for me either: how come she's got the queen inside for so long? There's talk of rescue in 14 days after the crash, so how long has she had if? It gives the impression it's been over a week at the very least. Assembly's extra CGI is really terrible too. Weaver labours all of her dialogue together with the plucky ensemble of brits who give some terrible performances in main. Weaver is a shadow of earlier Ripley, which is disappointing. Tywin Lannister out of 10.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Sun May 07, 2017 17:46 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Reviews are starting to drop. I'm more optimistic this is going to be a good Scott film, i.e. It's going to be thought provoking as well as exciting. I'm definitely seeing this next week. Robbie Collin who is the Telegraph's reviewer who I know mainly for when he sits in for Mark Kermode on the Kermode and Mayo podcast, and who I like a lot, loves it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/alie ... es-terror/

Author:	Goddess Jasmine [ Fri May 12, 2017 16:57 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Is anyone going to see this today? We had planned to but I'm still waiting for Joans to get home (to be fair, I'm still cleaning up after the Plasterer anyway, but still).

Author:	Jem [ Fri May 12, 2017 17:08 ]
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Gaz and I are going later

Author:	Firefox [ Fri May 12, 2017 21:41 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Gah. Sounds like Prometheus, then: Looks gorgeous, some good performances, but a dumb script.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri May 12, 2017 22:34 ]
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Cras and I saw Covenant. All right/10

Author:	Grim... [ Fri May 12, 2017 22:35 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
It didn't look anywhere near as good as Prometheus.

Author:	GazChap [ Fri May 12, 2017 22:48 ]
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Am I right in thinking that Covenant is the first Alien movie to score 1 on the Craster scale? Seconding alright/10. The "mythos" is all getting a bit wanky now IMO.

Author:	Cras [ Fri May 12, 2017 23:22 ]
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The crafter scale requires nips.

Author:	Cras [ Fri May 12, 2017 23:23 ]
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Crafter? Okay.

Author:	Satsuma [ Sat May 13, 2017 15:14 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
GazChap wrote: Yeah, I'm all on board with ignoring Resurrection (that can fairly easily be explained away as Ripley was a clone in that anyway) but ignoring Alien 3 (which is such an underrated movie in the Director's workprint form) is criminal. What might be interesting though, is if this new film starts and ends on the Sulaco, and they come up with a way of making it obvious that there's a facehugger on board, then Alien 3's main "plot hole" of "how was there a facehugger on the Sulaco when the Queen was blasted out of the airlock" would be resolved. They'd need Hicks and Newt back, though. The fan theory that the Queen carries eggs with her and leaves them on board doesn't wash with me, on account of being a shit idea. "Directors Workprint form", aye? Searching the internets...

Author:	Firefox [ Sat May 13, 2017 17:03 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
I'm of the opposite mind: I prefer to pretend that Alien 3 didn't happen. It just doesn't work on any level for me, plus it starts out by pissing all over the tiny ember of a happy ending that Aliens had. On the other hand, I watched Resurrection for the first time in many years last week and really enjoyed it! (I hadn't twigged it was written by Joss Whedon, or more likely had no idea who he was last time I saw it.) I think the central problem with Resurrection is ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! ... the appearance of the big boss alien/human hybrid at the end, which is ludicrous rather than terrifying. They should've got Giger to design it rather than cheaping out.

Author:	GazChap [ Sun May 14, 2017 8:22 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Satsuma wrote: This Alien 3 Assembly Cut isn't bad. From what I remember the events of the film take place over 1-2 days max. and I guess queens take longer to gestate. Of course, the gestation period is all over the fucking shop just recently, though. The extra CGI was unfinished which is why it's not as good, the scenes were cut before they were completed so they've just been slotted back in. I never really understood why people didn't like the start - I thought it was a really ballsy move, and sort of sent chills down my spine - which the ending to Covenant also does. In summary - I fucking love Alien 3.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 13:22 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
This girl live-tweets as she watches Alien for the first time, while (somehow) having no idea what the film is about or what happens: https://twitter.com/gaileyfrey/status/7 ... 5967135744 Love everyone bitching around the breakfast table about how they're uncomfortable in space — Sarah Gailey (@gaileyfrey) August 6, 2016 It's brilliant! H/T to Doccy G

Author:	MrChris [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 13:49 ]
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Why do you keep giving horse todgers to Gaywood?

Author:	Jem [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 13:50 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Grim... wrote: This girl live-tweets as she watches Alien for the first time, while (somehow) having no idea what the film is about or what happens: https://twitter.com/gaileyfrey/status/7 ... 5967135744 Love everyone bitching around the breakfast table about how they're uncomfortable in space — Sarah Gailey (@gaileyfrey) August 6, 2016 It's brilliant! H/T to Doccy G Fantastic

Author:	Trousers [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 16:58 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
The bit where she finds out about Ash made me cry like an idiot in the middle of Starbucks in Edinburgh today. I couldn't stop laughing for far too long.

Author:	Zardoz [ Thu Jul 06, 2017 17:23 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! This movie should just be called Ripley's Well-Earned Nap

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 0:09 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Great stuff. Has she watched any other awesome films?

Author:	Cras [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 17:15 ]
Post subject:	Re: Alien and Aliens
Sir Taxalot wrote: Great stuff. Has she watched any other awesome films? Well at the end of that thread she says she's going to do the same for Aliens, but it was a year ago and fuck trawling back that far to find out if she ever did

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Jul 07, 2017 17:54 ]
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She did, yes, but not as funny.