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As the sole ranking Marine aboard the Sulaco, Hicks was awoken from hypersleep by colonists Samwell Stone and Turk who were seeking military aid due to an emergency — the ship had been intercepted by the USS Legato and illegally boarded by Weyland-Yutani PMCs.[7] A firefight with the PMCs erupted in the hypersleep chamber, during which a stray bullet grazed the Facehugger attached to Ripley, spilling its blood onto the floor and triggering an electrical fire aboard the ship, leading to the evacuation of the occupied hypersleep chambers aboard a Type 337 EEV. Before the EEV launched, Turk was knocked into Hicks' open cryotube and sealed inside, and was subsequently launched aboard the departing EEV.[7]

Hicks could only watch as Ripley — and the Facehugger attached to her — was loaded into the EEV and launched from the Sulaco. Hicks and Stone then fought their way through the Sulaco, killing most of the PMCs and Xenomorphs aboard the ship, before taking a Service Skiff and following the EEV to the Fiorina 161 Class C Work Correctional Unit on Fiorina "Fury" 161. Unbeknownst to Hicks and Turk, however, the EEV malfunctioned and crash landed on Fiorina 161, killing Turk and Newt and damaging Bishop beyond repair. As the injuries to Turk's corpse rendered him unidentifiable, he was mistaken as Hicks. As such, Hicks' death was included in a report to Weyland-Yutani by the facility's supervisor Superintendent Andrews. Turk's body was later cremated with Newt on Fiorina 161.

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Sigourney shaved her head, there was a prison planet, Bishop was found all smashed up... er.... most people died I think...

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:52 ]
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GazChap wrote: Grim... wrote: Yo trivia skillz be whack, fewl. Next you'll be telling my you don't know what the "illegal alien" line was about Nah, I know that one Do tell

Author:	Kern [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:53 ]
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MaliA wrote: GazChap wrote: Grim... wrote: Yo trivia skillz be whack, fewl. Next you'll be telling my you don't know what the "illegal alien" line was about Nah, I know that one Do tell He likes his toast dry on one side.

Author:	Grim... [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:22 ]
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MaliA wrote: GazChap wrote: Grim... wrote: Yo trivia skillz be whack, fewl. Next you'll be telling my you don't know what the "illegal alien" line was about Nah, I know that one Do tell Hudson's "illegal aliens" line to Vasquez is an inside joke referencing the fact that, at her first audition, Goldstein had assumed Aliens was actually a movie about illegal immigrants in the United States, and had dressed accordingly. She still got the part, obv.

Author:	GazChap [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 13:44 ]
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Hudson: "Someone said 'alien', she thought they said 'illegal alien', and signed up." Vasquez: "Fuck you, man."

Author:	GazChap [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 13:45 ]
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Huh, according to this page it's an urban myth and isn't at all true. WHO TO BELIEVE?

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Author:	Grim... [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 13:55 ]
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GazChap wrote: Huh, according to this page it's an urban myth and isn't at all true. WHO TO BELIEVE? She's talked about it in interviews, so either she's lying or it happened.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 21:26 ]
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Well, she's an illegal alien, so I wouldn't trust her.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:23 ]
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"Hudson sir, he's Hicks" http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2015/03/m ... equel.html Quote: Michael Biehn confirms that he’s returning as Hicks in Neill Blomkamp’s Alien sequel Here’s some news that’s bound to please fans of 80s sci-fi action! Michael Biehn has confirmed that he’s set to reprise the role of Corporal Duane Hicks from 1986’s Aliens in Neill Blomkamp’s as-yet-untitled Alien sequel. Posting on Instagram in response to a comment about his scheduled appearance at Sheffield Film and Comic-Con in the UK, Biehn stated that, “I’m not looking at scheduling conflicts with the Sheffield Comic Con, due to my contract for Aliens to begin filming during then.” Fan favourite Hicks was featured in the original concept art that Blomkamp posted for his then-unofficial Alien sequel, which has since been given the greenlight from Fox and will also see Sigourney Weaver back as Ripley.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:39 ]
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BUT HE'S OLD

Author:	myp [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:41 ]
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Grim... wrote: BUT HE'S OLD Old people have stories to tell too.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:46 ]
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Presumably not him, as he's still on the Sulaco. Somehow.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:52 ]
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Grim... wrote: BUT HE'S OLD He's 57 , Sigourney is 65 Either dont mention it or the first thing as they wake up from their hypersleep is that they found the cryo chambers have malfunctioned and they have aged a little

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:00 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: Grim... wrote: BUT HE'S OLD He's 57 , Sigourney is 65 YES SHE IS ALSO OLD I'm really worried that trying to include them is going to kill the whole thing.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:01 ]
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Grim... wrote: Presumably not him, as he's still on the Sulaco. Somehow. Have you seen the DLC for Aliens: Colonial Marines that explains how Hicks is still alive?

Author:	myp [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 13:40 ]
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Grim... wrote: DBSnappa wrote: He's not that old and neither is she. Precluding the fact that he may look his age and be in poor shape, he can exercise to cover one and there's careful lighting for the other. Weaver looks great for her age. But they should both be thirty years younger. That's going to take some serious lighting. They "shouldn't" anything, unless you know the story already?

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 13:44 ]
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Future Warrior wrote: Grim... wrote: DBSnappa wrote: He's not that old and neither is she. Precluding the fact that he may look his age and be in poor shape, he can exercise to cover one and there's careful lighting for the other. Weaver looks great for her age. But they should both be thirty years younger. That's going to take some serious lighting. They "shouldn't" anything, unless you know the story already? They're going to have to do some serious explaining, which they wouldn't have to do if they weren't shoe-horning the folk from Aliens into it. Still, obviously, I want to be proved wrong so hard that my nips fall off. But I worry, Myp! I've been hurt before, and I worry so much.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 13:46 ]
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Grim... wrote: Future Warrior wrote: Grim... wrote: DBSnappa wrote: He's not that old and neither is she. Precluding the fact that he may look his age and be in poor shape, he can exercise to cover one and there's careful lighting for the other. Weaver looks great for her age. But they should both be thirty years younger. That's going to take some serious lighting. They "shouldn't" anything, unless you know the story already? They're going to have to do some serious explaining, which they wouldn't have to do if they weren't shoe-horning the folk from Aliens into it. Still, obviously, I want to be proved wrong so hard that my nips fall off. But I worry, Myp! I've been hurt before, and I worry so much.

Author:	MrChris [ Sat Mar 21, 2015 23:08 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Grim... wrote: They're going to have to do some serious explaining, which they wouldn't have to do if they weren't shoe-horning the folk from Aliens into it. Films that have Aliens and Ripley in: Alien 1-4. 25% terrible. 25% dubious. Films that have Aliens in but no Ripley: AvP 1-2, Prometheus. 100% brain meltingly terrible. The odds are on Blomkamp's side. Both AvP films were good schlock fun (certainly better than Predators 2 and Alien 3), and Prometheus was watchable.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:01 ]
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I have not.

Author:	DBSnappa [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 13:25 ]
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Grim... wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Grim... wrote: BUT HE'S OLD He's 57 , Sigourney is 65 YES SHE IS ALSO OLD I'm really worried that trying to include them is going to kill the whole thing. He's not that old and neither is she. Precluding the fact that he may look his age and be in poor shape, he can exercise to cover one and there's careful lighting for the other. Weaver looks great for her age.

Author:	DavPaz [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 13:26 ]
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What if they came out of hypersleep and have been living happily together as a couple for 30 years? Then the Aliens come back.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 13:38 ]
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DBSnappa wrote: He's not that old and neither is she. Precluding the fact that he may look his age and be in poor shape, he can exercise to cover one and there's careful lighting for the other. Weaver looks great for her age. But they should both be thirty years younger. That's going to take some serious lighting.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 14:21 ]
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GazChap wrote: Have you seen the DLC for Aliens: Colonial Marines that explains how Hicks is still alive? Explain further. Edit -- aha: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! As the sole ranking Marine aboard the Sulaco, Hicks was awoken from hypersleep by colonists Samwell Stone and Turk who were seeking military aid due to an emergency — the ship had been intercepted by the USS Legato and illegally boarded by Weyland-Yutani PMCs.[7] A firefight with the PMCs erupted in the hypersleep chamber, during which a stray bullet grazed the Facehugger attached to Ripley, spilling its blood onto the floor and triggering an electrical fire aboard the ship, leading to the evacuation of the occupied hypersleep chambers aboard a Type 337 EEV. Before the EEV launched, Turk was knocked into Hicks' open cryotube and sealed inside, and was subsequently launched aboard the departing EEV.[7] Hicks could only watch as Ripley — and the Facehugger attached to her — was loaded into the EEV and launched from the Sulaco. Hicks and Stone then fought their way through the Sulaco, killing most of the PMCs and Xenomorphs aboard the ship, before taking a Service Skiff and following the EEV to the Fiorina 161 Class C Work Correctional Unit on Fiorina "Fury" 161. Unbeknownst to Hicks and Turk, however, the EEV malfunctioned and crash landed on Fiorina 161, killing Turk and Newt and damaging Bishop beyond repair. As the injuries to Turk's corpse rendered him unidentifiable, he was mistaken as Hicks. As such, Hicks' death was included in a report to Weyland-Yutani by the facility's supervisor Superintendent Andrews. Turk's body was later cremated with Newt on Fiorina 161.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 14:41 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! As the sole ranking Marine aboard the Sulaco, Hicks was awoken from hypersleep by colonists Samwell Stone and Turk who were seeking military aid due to an emergency — the ship had been intercepted by the USS Legato and illegally boarded by Weyland-Yutani PMCs.[7] A firefight with the PMCs erupted in the hypersleep chamber, during which a stray bullet grazed the Facehugger attached to Ripley, spilling its blood onto the floor and triggering an electrical fire aboard the ship, leading to the evacuation of the occupied hypersleep chambers aboard a Type 337 EEV. Before the EEV launched, Turk was knocked into Hicks' open cryotube and sealed inside, and was subsequently launched aboard the departing EEV.[7] Hicks could only watch as Ripley — and the Facehugger attached to her — was loaded into the EEV and launched from the Sulaco. Hicks and Stone then fought their way through the Sulaco, killing most of the PMCs and Xenomorphs aboard the ship, before taking a Service Skiff and following the EEV to the Fiorina 161 Class C Work Correctional Unit on Fiorina "Fury" 161. Unbeknownst to Hicks and Turk, however, the EEV malfunctioned and crash landed on Fiorina 161, killing Turk and Newt and damaging Bishop beyond repair. As the injuries to Turk's corpse rendered him unidentifiable, he was mistaken as Hicks. As such, Hicks' death was included in a report to Weyland-Yutani by the facility's supervisor Superintendent Andrews. Turk's body was later cremated with Newt on Fiorina 161. Yeah - it's pretty clunky (especially the part where the guy falls into the open cryotube) and a lot of people think it's utterly fucking stupid, but if nothing else it does give them an "out" as to why Hicks is still alive. However, it does mean that, if they're going to stick with this idea, that Ripley and Hicks in this new movie are going to be separated at the beginning...

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 15:10 ]
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Their "out" is that they are forgetting about Alien³, isn't it?

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Mar 19, 2015 15:49 ]
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That was the initial reports, but I'm sure I read something shortly after from Blomkamp that said he wasn't ignoring 3 and R.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Mar 21, 2015 23:16 ]
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I'm glad you said that. Now, the next time you express an opinon and I'm not sure if I should listen or not, I can remember you think Prometheus is watchable and not have to bother. It's a real time saver!

Author:	MrChris [ Sat Mar 21, 2015 23:20 ]
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You're a very attractive, intelligent man, doc.

Author:	Grim... [ Sat Mar 21, 2015 23:29 ]
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And that AvP was better than Alien3.

Author:	MrChris [ Sat Mar 21, 2015 23:33 ]
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Alien 3 was pretty bad, dude. Not least the crappy CGI dog alien thing. And the tedium.

Author:	lasermink [ Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:34 ]
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It was pretty bad until they made the director's cut, then it was suddenly pretty good. For reasons that are beyond my comprehension. Edit: It sounds like I am dissing those who believe that, which is not the case. I meant it literally, I actually do think the directory's cut is pretty good, and I truly do not understand how such seemingly small differences can add up to such a different overall experience.

Author:	lasermink [ Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:49 ]
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Reading up on it, it seems it's not actually a director's cut, but something they call "assembly cut". In any case, I am talking about the alternate version in the Quadrilogy box set, where the dog is no longer there. There are many other changes, and apparently the whole thing is 25 minutes longer, so there are apparently more changes than I realised. http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_3_Assembly_Cut

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun Mar 22, 2015 19:30 ]
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Huh -- I didn't realise the BluRay Assembly Cut fixes the poor audio in the DVD one. I'll have to get hold of that at some point. I think I gave up trying to watch the DVD once because of the murky sound.

Author:	Morte [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:40 ]
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It's Aliens...it's Aliens and Winnie the Pooh...it's Aliens vs Winnie the Pooh. http://godxiliary.com/alienvspooh/

Author:	GazChap [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:51 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote: Alien 3 was pretty bad, dude. Not least the crappy CGI dog alien thing. And the tedium. The only "proper" CGI is when the alien's dome cracks at the end - everything else was done with practical effects (albeit green screened I believe, if that counts as CGI)

Author:	GazChap [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:52 ]
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And Alien 3 is much better in the workprint version, but the theatrical release isn't as bad as people make out - it's only because they felt butthurt about Hicks and Newt being killed off.

Author:	MrChris [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 20:58 ]
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No, it's cos the original version is a bit crap. The assembly cut is a bit better, but it's still very much the weakest of the 4 "proper" Alien(s) films. Despite some quality Charles Dance.

Author:	Satsuma [ Mon Mar 23, 2015 21:27 ]
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I'm going to find that Assembly Version on the interweb somewhere and give it a whirl. Sounds very interesting.