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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:02 
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I'm not afraid to say I shed a tear last night...

So sad.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Kent, I believe. I am also awaiting news of a service.

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Yes, their house is in Marden, Kent.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Mimi wrote:
Yes, their house is in Marden, Kent.


Well it's the other side of London to me (I'm based in Hemel Hempstead), but definitely do-able.

Mimi, would you be able to find out if they're having a service and, if so, if internet strangers were welcome to attend?


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I shall try and find out the details and possibility of some Beex folks attending at an opportune moment x

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Thanks Mimi. I'd like to go too if it's at all possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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If anyone would like to contribute, they are having a raffle to help to raise funds;

http://sweetlibertine.com/2010/10/13/ra ... -patience/

Also a guy named Neil Gaiman has re-tweeted about the chip-in, apparently this is good. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I'm not afraid to say I shed a tear last night...

So sad.


Yep same here mate, it hurts :(


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I shall try and find out the details and possibility of some Beex folks attending at an opportune moment x


Thanks, I am sure some from ugvm would like to attend also


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Just reading about the things that internet types are doing for Patience is heartbreaking and heartwarming at the same time.

God, this is awful


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I started reading through some of his posts before and found conversations we'd had recently... had to stop, I'll look through them again when I get home. The winds taken from my sails and I never even met the bloke. Patience must be devastated, and this is not long since the heartbreaking news about their pregnancy. So, so sad.

Never know what's around the corner, eh? Got to make the most of everything while you can.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Z- someone from a.d linked me to his first ever post last night, and the first ever reply... from me. I nearly started reading that at 4am this morning. Probably a good thing I didn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I started reading through some of his posts before and found conversations we'd had recently... had to stop, I'll look through them again when I get home. The winds taken from my sails and I never even met the bloke. Patience must be devastated, and this is not long since the heartbreaking news about their pregnancy. So, so sad.

Never know what's around the corner, eh? Got to make the most of everything while you can.


The friendships you build online can sometimes be stronger than real life, if you get the chance make sure you meet your online friends in person. Life is too short :(


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I'm not afraid to say I shed a tear last night...

So sad.


Yep same here mate, it hurts :(


Same here. I'd not met him, so you'd think that it might not have affected me too much, but I was a bit of a mess last night. Maybe down to him being a similar age to me, but probably more to do with knowing that him and Patience seemed to be a perfect match from reading his posts and that she must be utterly distraught right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Yeah, like a lot of people others here, I never met Owen in real life, but I've known him online for about a decade through Usenet, Deadjournal, Twitter and various gaming forums. He was such a genuinely nice guy and I just can't believe he's gone. I always enjoyed reading the things he wrote, whether it was his enthusiastic blog posts about the latest iPhone games, a rant about non-inverted camera controls, some alt.digi insantity or a chapter from one of his NaNoWriMo novels (which were always better than he thought they were). He was funny, charming and friendly and I'll miss reading his words.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I must confess that I am surprised by how much this has all bothered me. Never even met the guy. Poor Patience.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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gospvg wrote:

The friendships you build online can sometimes be stronger than real life, if you get the chance make sure you meet your online friends in person. Life is too short :(


Not that this needs a point to prove it, but that Owen and Patience met online is as good an indication that this can be true as any that has ever been.

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I must confess that I am surprised by how much this has all bothered me. Never even met the guy. Poor Patience.


I met him, and he was lovely, but I'm also surprised at how hard this has hit me.

I guess that everyone who I've known and liked that has died before has been older, and not a part of my 'peer group'. Parents, grandparents, etc.

The majority of people I care about are in their 30s, and it just makes you think about them all. Eeesh.

I'm just so happy that people have managed to raise so much money for Patience. I can't imagine what she's going through.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I had an urge yesterday evening to visit Rev Castle in Minecraft. It did my heart proud to find a number of other Beexers having the same idea.

Having to explain to young Cookie what was going on was a bit of a heart-in-mouth moment.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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His "I've proposed to Patience" post from 2006: http://therev.deadjournal.com/2013392.html
His wedding post: http://therev.deadjournal.com/2042652.html

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Zio wrote:
I must confess that I am surprised by how much this has all bothered me. Never even met the guy. Poor Patience.

The majority of people I care about are in their 30s, and it just makes you think about them all. Eeesh.

I'm just so happy that people have managed to raise so much money for Patience. I can't imagine what she's going through.


He was only a 3 weeks younger than me.
I feel really sad for Patience for all she has been through this year to lose her soulmate :(

To think only days ago he was participating in the Word with Friends Tournament, and asking me when the next round would start.

I'm glad that the fund has raised a lot for Patience's relatives to come over and be with her.


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Oh I didn't even think of that! I just gave him a wee call. He sounded sad about it and said he was looking around Owens castle last night but couldn't find his way around very well without Owen to show him :(


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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It was Most Sad.
There's all sorts of hidden stuff around and under his castle, he mentioned it a few times that he hoped people would go for a wander and find things. I feel bad for not having done so before :(


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Nice that he's left things to discover though, eh Kalmar?

So weird living in this technological age, there's so much left behind now.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Very sad. I've never met him in person, but he was always a top bloke online.

He did a couple of reviews for me on SavyGamer, and did a bang up job on both of them:
http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/10/23/age-o ... ds-review/
http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/10/23/deadl ... ii-review/

Do you think it would be appropriate for me to link to the fund on SavyGamer? I'd want to do anything I could to help.


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Do you think it would be appropriate for me to link to the fund on SavyGamer? I'd want to do anything I could to help.

I think that's the most practical help we can give to Patience right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Very sad. I've never met him in person, but he was always a top bloke online.

He did a couple of reviews for me on SavyGamer, and did a bang up job on both of them:
http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/10/23/age-o ... ds-review/
http://savygamer.co.uk/2009/10/23/deadl ... ii-review/

Do you think it would be appropriate for me to link to the fund on SavyGamer? I'd want to do anything I could to help.


I think it would be ok, I have linked to the fund on my blog site & ugvm


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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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Do you think it would be appropriate for me to link to the fund on SavyGamer? I'd want to do anything I could to help.


Yes, please do. All links appreciated.If you visit the link to the fund there is also instructions on how to embed the widget, if you wanted that rather than the link.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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I'm writing a post now. How did he die? I've not seen the details anywhere.

I'm kind of at a loss of what to say.


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Seems to be a heart attack.
http://millarca.tumblr.com/post/1308910 ... now-by-now

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I have Patience's address from long ago. I didn't want to offer it before asking her if it was OK, but I thought folks here might want to send a card to express their sympathies. I have checked with her and she says it is of course OK. She will probably be away from home for a few days, but someone will be stopping by to collect post.

I do not want to publicly post the address, so if anyone would like to address to send a card, just drop me a PM and I'll reply with the details.

I sent Patience a personal card from Craig and myself, but I have also send Owen's parents a card on behalf of the communities here and on ugvm and rllmuk... etc, just saying that in the same way that he had met the love of his life online, so did he make many friends who loved and will miss him, and to let his family know that he meant a great deal to very many people.

OK, if anyone wants the address to send Patience a card, just drop me a line. I will try and reply as soon as I am able, but may take me a few hours between postings x

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I have also send Owen's parents a card on behalf of the communities here and on ugvm and rllmuk... etc, just saying that in the same way that he had met the love of his life online, so did he make many friends who loved and will miss him, and to let his family know that he meant a great deal to very many people.

Thanks for doing that Mimi.

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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What terrible, terrible news; like others, I am at a complete loss as to what to say. :( :( :(

My sincere condolences to Rev Owen's family and friends.

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Mimi wrote:
I sent Patience a personal card from Craig and myself, but I have also send Owen's parents a card on behalf of the communities here and on ugvm and rllmuk... etc, just saying that in the same way that he had met the love of his life online, so did he make many friends who loved and will miss him, and to let his family know that he meant a great deal to very many people.

That is a lovely gesture Mimi, thank you.

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I really don't know what to say. I wasn't online here last night, I'd just come back from seeing Back to the Future at the cinema and was feeling kind of alright with the world but rather sleepy. Then I get an email from Lord Rixondale this morning telling me the awful news. I didn't know the Rev Owen outside of his posts on here, but I always found him unshowily wise, thoughtful, trivia-filled and amusing. I find it desperately sad to think on those who knew him close, and his family, and Patience, and what they must be going through right now.

Probably the most horrible and unfair words in the world are: They died too young.

One of the strange new things about the internet is that it leaves ghosts of people who have passed away in the physical realm. He remains part of BETEO but he is gone. Its a strange and sad feeling. But the value of his words and creations remain constant. I'll be revisiting his posts and threads and hunting out new ones. But, like his Minecraft legacy, they also highlight the the sadness in the things he can no longer enjoy or achieve. That's what hit me hard about my uncle's death at 33, when I realised that he'd never be able to watch the John Woo film I lent him. Or any film ever again. It's those strange detailed realisations that kick you in the stomach.

My thoughts are with Patience and his family and friends. The donating thing is wonderful. RIP Rev Owen. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Rev Owen
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RIP Owen. A bloody lovely man.

I know it's going to tear me up when his resignation in Words With Friends comes through in a couple of weeks.



Same. I had just started a new game with him, he hadn't even had a chance to play his first move.


I think I will do the honourable thing and resign... it's only fair to hand him this victory. To see the resignation message pop up would just be too cruel.


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That's what hit me hard about my uncle's death at 33, when I realised that he'd never be able to watch the John Woo film I lent him. Or any film ever again. It's those strange detailed realisations that kick you in the stomach.


One of my close school-friends died when we all about 21/22 years old from a brain tumour. Some of our group compiled a CD of his favourite tunes to play at the church, so just before the coffin was lead in, we were all sat in the pews listening to 'Insomnia' by Faithless. A couple of us sniggered at having that kind of music on in a church and then it hit me that if Chris had been with us, he'd have found it hilarious. That was upsetting. Even now, almost ten years later, I find his death upsetting. I very occasionally visit his grave and it's hard having to read the bit that says "Died aged 22".

It's a combination of knowing that you'll never see them again: in Chris's case it was knowing that I'd never again meet him down the pub or have a laugh at the latest stupid thing he'd been up to. In Owen's it's knowing I'll never read any more posts from him, be enthused by his iPhone game reviews (seriously, his opinions have been directly responsible for many of the games I've bought on my iPhone), read his latest Twitter updates or see his latest Minecraft creations.

And then there's the knowledge of all they'll never experience themselves. New games, films, books, comics, new technology, meetups and all the silly stuff we all take so seriously here and we'll get to see it and they won't. But for me it's also knowing that Owen and Patience evidently wanted children and now that will never happen.

But enough moping. Owen was one of my favourite posters both here, and on WoS and Rllmuk, because he came across as a genuinely wonderful person. The things he posted and his creations in Minecraft serve as a reminder of that wonderful person who had a positive effect on a whole load of people he'd never even met. So, if he was wrong and God/Allah/Flying Spaghetti Monster does exist, I'm sure he'd overlook the whole atheism thing and give him a prime spot in the Great Arcade in the Sky, where all the machines are constantly on Free Play.

Make sure you lot have a drink, watch Star Wars and many Rock Band games in his honour on Saturday and hopefully at some point we can do something formal in the guy's memory.


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Well put, Zio.

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That's what hit me hard about my uncle's death at 33, when I realised that he'd never be able to watch the John Woo film I lent him. Or any film ever again. It's those strange detailed realisations that kick you in the stomach.


One of my close school-friends died when we all about 21/22 years old from a brain tumour. Some of our group compiled a CD of his favourite tunes to play at the church, so just before the coffin was lead in, we were all sat in the pews listening to 'Insomnia' by Faithless. A couple of us sniggered at having that kind of music on in a church and then it hit me that if Chris had been with us, he'd have found it hilarious. That was upsetting. Even now, almost ten years later, I find his death upsetting. I very occasionally visit his grave and it's hard having to read the bit that says "Died aged 22".

It's a combination of knowing that you'll never see them again: in Chris's case it was knowing that I'd never again meet him down the pub or have a laugh at the latest stupid thing he'd been up to. In Owen's it's knowing I'll never read any more posts from him, be enthused by his iPhone game reviews (seriously, his opinions have been directly responsible for many of the games I've bought on my iPhone), read his latest Twitter updates or see his latest Minecraft creations.

And then there's the knowledge of all they'll never experience themselves. New games, films, books, comics, new technology, meetups and all the silly stuff we all take so seriously here and we'll get to see it and they won't. But for me it's also knowing that Owen and Patience evidently wanted children and now that will never happen.

But enough moping. Owen was one of my favourite posters both here, and on WoS and Rllmuk, because he came across as a genuinely wonderful person. The things he posted and his creations in Minecraft serve as a reminder of that wonderful person who had a positive effect on a whole load of people he'd never even met. So, if he was wrong and God/Allah/Flying Spaghetti Monster does exist, I'm sure he'd overlook the whole atheism thing and give him a prime spot in the Great Arcade in the Sky, where all the machines are constantly on Free Play.

Make sure you lot have a drink, watch Star Wars and many Rock Band games in his honour on Saturday and hopefully at some point we can do something formal in the guy's memory.


Brilliant post, thanks :)


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His first ever post in alt.digitiser was Aug 2000. I was the first person to reply to him.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.digi ... er&lnk=nl&

I didn't realise he was a fellow minister in the ULC. :(

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His first ever post in alt.digitiser was Aug 2000. I was the first person to reply to him.

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I didn't realise he was a fellow minister in the ULC. :(
Haha, the three of us had an entire conversation about that in that London :DD

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I may have been a bit tired. I barely remember talking to you that night. ;)

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Yeah, it was a bit late when I turned up (around half-eight) :P

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I saw Patience's tweets yesterday afternoon, and hoped for the best.

After a night offline, I checked my twitter this morning, and was sad to learn my hopes were futile. I didn't know Owen as well as most of you, but I was upset today. I am more familiar with Patience, through twitter, so just thinking about what such a sweet, lovely woman is going through is heart-wrenching. I do know Owen was incredibly nice, and super-smart, with a friendly face. Always willing to help and share. I also know he and Patience were a fantastic couple. That's all I can say at the minute.

RIP

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