TheJimquisition seems to be DDoSed again.
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Quote: The Last Guardian review embargo lifts on December 5th at 7am PST/10am EST/16.00 CET or 15:00 GMT
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Saturnalian wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Tsk, didn't even get a thanks for my quick translation effort. Didn't I? I thought I left some pithy response about you being a dick but forgot to post it. Also, you're awesome and sexy. Clearly one line is me trying to keep your hype train from crashing through the buffers. (I think it was something about how people were going to be wide eyed in surprise or something) |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
TheVision wrote: I hope this is good Sat... for your sake if nothing else. I remember the crushing feeling I had after playing Duke Nukem Forever.... I wouldn't wish that on anyone. I've said it once and I'll say it again, let's not forget that this year had INSIDE and Owlboy both release after years in LIMBO (ho-ho) and release to critical acclaim. 2016 has been great for games (shit for everything else). |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Mr Dave wrote: Clearly one line is me trying to keep your vote train from crashing through the buffers. (I think it was something about how people were going to be wide eyed* in surprise or something) *Filthy gaijin. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 15:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Reviews are in. It's crap. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 15:28 ] |
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Mr Dave wrote: Reviews are in. It's crap. Embargo breaking ! |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 15:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Reviewers be on summertime, yo. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Looks like some mixed scores |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Gameinformer 8/10 http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_l ... ormer.aspx US Gamer 4/5 http://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-las ... ail-vessel Polygon 7.5/10 http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/5/137674 ... -gendesign Gamespot 9/10 http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-las ... 0-6416583/ TheJimquisition 6.5/10 http://www.thejimquisition.com/the-last ... an-review/ Slant 3 / 5 http://www.slantmagazine.com/games/revi ... t-guardian |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Exactly my thoughts. They're mixed in the way that they're not all the same, but they're very good scores. Not that it matters, I reckon Sat will like it either way. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Lonewolves wrote: Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. I'm in the process of pulling them from various places , it seems to vary from a 6 to a 9 which i would say is mixed , however yes , mixed on the positive side :-) |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Thank Christ - I couldn't cope with Sat this Saturday if he'd had a breakdown over this. He'd be rocking back and forth sobbing into his pint of John Smiths. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Gameinformer 8/10 http://www.gameinformer.com/games/the_l ... ormer.aspx US Gamer 4/5 http://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-las ... ail-vessel Polygon 7.5/10 http://www.polygon.com/2016/12/5/137674 ... -gendesign Gamespot 9/10 http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/the-las ... 0-6416583/ TheJimquisition 6.5/10 http://www.thejimquisition.com/the-last ... an-review/ Slant 3 / 5 http://www.slantmagazine.com/games/revi ... t-guardian You don't get this entire Ian baiting thing, do you? You're meant to drop in at least 2 fake review giving it 2/10 |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? |
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| Author: | markg [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
I think it's average in terms of games that would actually be on most people's radar but there's enough abject shite nobody knows or cares about that gets released to make it also technically correct. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 16:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Mr Dave wrote: You don't get this entire Ian baiting thing, do you? You're meant to drop in at least 2 fake review giving it 2/10 Not a fake one but the lowest real one I've seen 4/10 - http://www.digitaltrends.com/game-revie ... an-review/ Quote: "We waited 9 years for this? 'The Last Guardian' is an irritating waste of time"
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Are there any spoilers in any of these reviews so I can critically assess them? |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Saturnalian wrote: Are there any spoilers in any of these reviews so I can critically assess them? ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Zardoz wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Tsk, didn't even get a thanks for my quick translation effort. どうもありがとうございました どういたしまして |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Saturnalian wrote: Are there any spoilers in any of these reviews so I can critically assess them? maybe. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
TheJimquisition seems to be DDoSed again.
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| Author: | lasermink [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Oh wait, now it opened after all. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 17:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
'Technical Disaster' -Jim Sterling. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 18:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Jim Sterling is a good reviewer and often entertaining, but I find I rarely agree with his taste, so I'm actually sort of relieved. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 18:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Saturnalian wrote: Are there any spoilers in any of these reviews so I can critically assess them? I'm sure there will be , I have seen one (the lowest one) who describes a specific puzzle and solution to show how the game is 'bad' and i bet others have minor spoilers in there. However I think I can summarize all the bad stuff into : It plays a lot like a PS2 or early PS3 game The AI is not great The puzzles can be a little obtuse and badly explained The camera is a bit crappy From looking at quite a few of these that seems to be the main problems so if you can overlook those then you should love it. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 18:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
The Guardian gave it 5/5 and said it was yer man's best game yet. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 18:55 ] |
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I'm glad there's a big game that isn't worth trying. I mean,even Watch_Dogs 2 is supposed to be great. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 19:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? Nah, sliding the space key converts input to japanese. あ = a, め = me and ん = n. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 19:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? Nah, sliding the space key converts input to japanese. あ = a, め = me and ん = n. Amen to you too |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 19:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? Nah, sliding the space key converts input to japanese. あ = a, め = me and ん = n. Amen to you too Reading not your strong point then? |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 20:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? Nah, sliding the space key converts input to japanese. あ = a, め = me and ん = n. Amen to you too Reading not your strong point then? Not sure what ll is |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 20:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? Nah, sliding the space key converts input to japanese. あ = a, め = me and ん = n. Amen to you too Reading not your strong point then? Not sure what ll is The letter L, twice. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 05, 2016 23:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Curiosity wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Mr Dave wrote: Lonewolves wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Eurogamer 'essential' - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016- ... ian-review IGN 7/10 - http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/05/t ... ian-review Videogamer 9/10 https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the- ... review-ps4 Those aren't mixed, unless you think 7/10 is average for some reason. 7/10 is average by game review scores though for most mainstream publications . You can argue about whether it should be,by あllめあんs Have you just gone through a tunnel? Nah, sliding the space key converts input to japanese. あ = a, め = me and ん = n. Amen to you too Reading not your strong point then? Not sure what ll is The letter L, twice. Cheers |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
So apparently you need the Pro to play this properly. For fucking fuck's sake. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... n-face-off Quote: Overall, it's no surprise that the best way to play The Last Guardian is on PlayStation 4 Pro, but it's still a shame the original PS4 struggles as much as it does. The 20-30fps performance profile is a clear upgrade over the 'cinematic' presentation seen in Shadow of the Colossus, but it's still way off the pace compared to what we've come to expect from a modern PS4 title.
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
lasermink wrote: So apparently you need the Pro to play this properly. For fucking fuck's sake. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... n-face-off Quote: Overall, it's no surprise that the best way to play The Last Guardian is on PlayStation 4 Pro, but it's still a shame the original PS4 struggles as much as it does. The 20-30fps performance profile is a clear upgrade over the 'cinematic' presentation seen in Shadow of the Colossus, but it's still way off the pace compared to what we've come to expect from a modern PS4 title. Wow, forget that then. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Calm down, AE. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:34 ] |
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Grim... wrote: Calm down, AE. Game performance is historically meant to get better over the course of a console's life until we reach the very end of the cycle, not worse. Are we now saying that the PS4 is finished three years in? |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Well, I was never too bothered by the frame rate in Shadow of the Colossus (in fact, I am doing playthrough right now, and doing fine), so I guess I won't have too much of a problem with this, either. But my PS4 is only a year old, and I would have never bought it if I'd known what Sony was planning. Makes my blood boil, it really does. |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 12:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
I don't think it's anything to do with the PS4 Pro. This is a game that has clearly had a very troubled development so it's doesn't seem too surprising that it's not as well optimised as most others. They say it runs better than SoTC anyway. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
markg wrote: I don't think it's anything to do with the PS4 Pro. This is what I am hoping for - that it's not a general trend. I bought a PS4 thinking I'd be set for 5-7 years, not two. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Lonewolves wrote: This is what I am hoping for - that it's not a general trend. I bought a PS4 thinking I'd be set for 5-7 years, not two. On the other hand, the financial outlay of upgrading is about three weeks of your spend on iRacing. Is that really such a hurdle? |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
I can't see that developers are all suddenly going to start targeting a machine that has some tiny fraction of owners as the PS4. Just wouldn't make sense would it? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:18 ] |
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It would if the developer is Sony. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:19 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Lonewolves wrote: This is what I am hoping for - that it's not a general trend. I bought a PS4 thinking I'd be set for 5-7 years, not two. On the other hand, the financial outlay of upgrading is about three weeks of your spend on iRacing. Is that really such a hurdle? Not really. I've invested a lot into iRacing in the past year, but a) it's not sustainable and b) I won't need to going forward as I have most of the content I need. Years 2+ will get cheaper (comparatively). By dint of iRacing being my main gaming hobby now it's relegated my PS4 is to a secondary device. I can't justify upgrading to the Pro (and CBA with selling my PS4 boggo edition anyway). But you know, defend a shitty practice that is poor for consumers if you like. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:23 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: But you know, defend a shitty practice that is poor for consumers if you like. 
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:31 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Lonewolves wrote: But you know, defend a shitty practice that is poor for consumers if you like. I forget who you work for sometimes - in-thrall to huge multinationals. 
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
I think you're reading way too much into one shittily-written game with a famously troubled development history. None of the other big launches this year have suffered in this way. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 13:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Last Guardian |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: I think you're reading way too much into one shittily-written game with a famously troubled development history. None of the other big launches this year have suffered in this way. As I said, I'm hoping it's a one-off and not a general trend. |
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