Be Excellent To Each Other

Enjoy!

"WITH YOUR BEAR HANDS"
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Ah balls. It got dark. I got dead.

I'll try again

You may not die.

As you'll see from earlier in the thread, I had that a few times. The trick is to keep at it until you find coal - once you have coal you can spend your nights underground in safety. Absent that, you will need to spend the night hiding on top of a column of earth or on top of a tree or something.

Aren't you in beexworld DavPaz?

Might someone need to add DP to the 'trusted' list at the Beexworld?

The Doctor has a very good point, there.

How do I know when the night's finished if I'm buried in darkness?

Also, I'm doing SP for now to get the hang of.

Y'know, like sex.

This is no time to sing Linkin Park tunes.

Also, it seems I can't connect to the beexworld server at work.

My way of combatting the 'other people's stuff is waaaaay beyond what I can do' thing is to just make all of my stuff underground. Probably no one will see it, but I'd like to think someone might stumble along and appreciate the whole 1 evening I spent doing all that rubbish.

I'm enchanted. You were all correct.

I have built me a hobbit hole. Shame it's so dark

Heh, I've been building an underground town/village in my SP game. Might try to expand it to a city so I can build some sky ceiling scrapers.

Meh, it was OK in its time, but that time was 3.30PM. We're all playing gnawcraft now.

I don't see why people are worried about what everyone else is building. Just find your own spot on the server and build what you want. My weird, mazelike castle is never going to be hugely impressive, but I enjoy adding to it and maybe some other people might poke around it at some point and find the Secret Wall or the Secret Shrine or just take in the view from the Glass Tower or do the Death Dive. And if they don't, that's fine.

I can go see Dimrill's stuff, say, and stand in awe before it, but that doesn't make my castle any worse.

Exactly. I don't understand why anyone could view it as a competition to make better stuff than your neighbours. That's just massively odd thinking.

And don't forget the co-op building like Davenet, Crasteroad and Dimcanal.

I've done the Death Dive a couple of times, it's great fun!

Doc, do you wanna try running two maps as a test? A brand new 2nd with just the health, furnace, tools, water, lava, coal and boat summons I mentioned above? Cobbles and dirt wouldn't be needed on a new map.

Yes please.

What's your character name, chap?

O Noes, the block list has vanished...

I can pretty much guarantee it won't work. The old crashy server had 756Mb of RAM allocated to Java and would regularly run out. The new one has 1250Mb allocated out of 2Gb total and is (yes?) fine. That doesn't leave enough room to run a full second instance. My own stuff needs about 500Mb or so.

Other than that I'd be up for it, but we just don't have any jet powered rocket pants.

I think I'd maybe deal with it by swapping them over, maybe. Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays would be free-summon creative. Tue, Thu, Sat survival. Sundays dunno. It'd help keep the game fresh I think too.

Also, until he fixes chests, I think not having summon is downright hostile to people who only want to dip in and out. I, for one, would have been spending 50% of my time digging for and then making iron picks.

Nobody said we shouldn't


OY, DAVPAZ.

Me are davpaz

New list from here http://pastebin.com/LZb02w5g :

1: smoothstone
2: grassy dirt
3: dirt
4: cobblestone
5: wood
6: sapling
7: bedrock
8: Water
9: Water
10: Lava
11: Lava
12: Sand
13: Gravel
14: Gold Vein
15: Iron Vein
16: Coal Vein
17: Log
18: Leaves
19: sponge
20: Glass
30-39: None
40: Red Mushroom
41: Gold Block
42: Iron Block
43: Halfstone Stack
44: Halfstone Single
45: Brick
46: TNT
47: Bookshelf
48: Mossy Cobblestone
49: Obsidian
50: Torch
51: Fire
52: Monster spawner
53: wood stairs
54: chest
55: Redstone Dust + Intersection
56: Diamond Vein
57: Diamond Block
58: Crafting Bench
59: Wheat Seeds
60: Hoed Dirt
61: Furnace
62: Furnace (Burning)
63: Sign (Broken)
64: Door Bottom (Bugged)
65: Ladder
66: Minecart Track
67: Stone stairs
68: Sign
69: Switch
70: Stone Pressure Plate
71: Iron Door Bottom
72: Wooden Pressure Plate
73: Redstone Vein
74: Bubbling Redstone Vein
75: Redstone Torch
76: Active Redstone Torch
77: Stone Switch
78: Layer of Snow
79: Ice Block
80: Snow Block
81: Cactus
82: Clay Block
83: Reeds
84: Jukebox


260: Apple
261: Bow
262: Arrow
263: Coal Ore
264: Diamond
265: Iron Bar
266: Gold Bar
267: Iron Sword
268: Wooden Sword
269: Wooden Shovel
270: Wooden Pick
271: Wooden Axe
272: Stone Sword
273: Stone Shovel
274: Stone Pick
275: Stone Axe
276: Diamond Sword
277: Diamond Shovel
278: Diamond Pick
279: Diamond Axe
280: Stick
281: Wooden Bowl
282: Mushroom Soup
283: Golden Sword
284: Golden Shovel
285: Golden Pick
286: Golden Axe
287: String
288: Feather
289: Ash
290: Wood Hoe
291: Stone Hoe
292: Iron Hoe
293: Diamond Hoe
294: Gold Hoe
295: Seeds
296: Wheat Bundle
297: Bread Loaf
298: Leather Helmet
299: Leather Vest
300: Leather Pants
301: Leather Boots
302: Chainmail Helmet
303: Chainmail Vest
304: Chainmail Pants
305: Chainmail Boots
306: Iron Helmet
307: Iron Vest
308: Iron Pants
309: Iron Boots
310: Diamond Helmet
311: Diamond Vest
312: Diamond Pants
313: Diamond Boots
314: Gold Helmet
315: Gold Vest
316: Gold Pants
317: Gold Boots
318: Flint
319: Pork
320: Pork (Cooked)
321: Painting
322: Golden Apple
323: Signpost
324: Wooden Door (Bugged. Can open/close clientside, doesn't work serverside)
325: Bucket
326: Water-Filled Bucket
327: Lava-Filled Bucket
328: Minecart (DO NOT PUT ON TRACKS. WILL CRASH SERVER.)
329: Saddle

This sounds perfect.

Added you.

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.

I agree with you and Dr Lave, that's a great idea. Tho' the laid-back day known as Sunday would be a ideal day for the free-summon creative, IMO.




Ironically, considering the negative feelings some have felt here towards free summoning, a Minecraft server for the community another forum I frequent lost quite a few regular users because the lack of freely useable #summon command made playing the game too restrictively time-consuming for many. I think the server owner has recently done a u-turn in the last few days, however.

Incidentally I am rather intrigued by the possibilities of multiplayer survival. I'm guessing that more co-operatively built structures will be constructed. I think. We'll see, eh?

My issue isn't there - I am largely indifferent to summoning tools/cobblestone etc - It's that rare/exotic materials don't stay rare and exotic if people summon them at will.

I'd agree 100% on that. My obsidian farm is beautiful, and where's the fun in mining if gold/iron/diamond is summoned? In fact, I demand obsidian and those ores are added to the blacklist please.

I dread to ask... what ports does the multiplayer use?

Looks like I'll be jacking in via my mobile.

I think I agree. The gold atop my throne and the mossy stone round my graveyard have all been dragged up from the centre of the earth and are all the sweeter for it.

Tools, anything stone, glass, etc. are fine, though. Making my castle I'm typing #summon 4 64 and #summon 44 64 a million times a day.

But where to draw the line? Should sponge be summonable? How about bricks? Snow?

It's a bit tricky.

I have no objection whatsoever to blocking the harder to come by blocks.

I'm trying hard not to spam up this thread with late to the party Squee moments.

Ok, just one.

Bang on midday, I'm building a stone hut and a huge sound fills the air, like a trumpet. I think I just shit.

So, you were playing Minecraft when you had a follow-through?

That's my suggested list. Keep the tools and health summon kits also.

Something like that. I'm loving this. Dig dig, build build, hide hide

It would be more perfect if it could be made to broadcast the air raid klaxon a minute before teardown, Silent Hill style.

I'd probably get round to buying it just so I could wait for that.

I would consider adding sponge too, as it is only available via a summon and can be used for some exciting and interesting schemes apparently

So, you all like building lego but you only want the computer to sort out certain colours because it would ruin the excitement of some colours? And you like to spend more time on digging up / forging the special colours to keep them special?

Still baffled, and so for that reason, I'm still out.

Just :25565.

I'm happy to implement this if that's what people want.

I vote yes.

Hmmm, it appears item whitelisting doens't work in this server wrapper. Arses. I may need to switch to a different one.

Give the rest of the day for feedback on the list, I'd say.

I'd add in boats as an individual item. they break easily and it would be a pain to summon tools every time you need a new one.

Yeah, of course -- I was just testing.

If you could store stuff in the MP game, there'd be no need for summoning at all. You'd be able to keep everything you'd mined and created with no problems. As it stands, you can spend the whole day mining and creating tools, only to log out or even get booted out due to an error and lose all of it.

So, the simple solution is to allow people to summon things, that way they can reclaim the things they lost when they last logged out.

However! Constantly summoning stuff because you can't be arsed to mine it devalues the whole experience, so until the storage problem is resolved, some element of moderation is needed towards summoning.

Since cobblestone, soil, sand and wood are so very common and since strong tools require rarer ores to make - thus making their loss at log out time an absolute pain in the arse - these things need to be readily summonable. But the rare ores should probably be kept locked up.

Gah, you need to bloody play it to understand. I don't really know why you're so reluctant to take the plunge since it is cheap, it's very creative and it's no more likely to make you a game-addicted junkie than anything else - certainly I'm perfectly able to control how much time I spend playing it.