Bottom line for you? The SNP have had years to work this stuff out, and yet, mere days before the referendum they are utterly clueless about whether an independent Scotland would have a currency union with rUK - they insist they would despite unequivocally being denied by all UK parties - and iScotlands status within the EU, if any, as confirmed at the highest level. Maybe these things don't matter if you're a hate blinded, swivel-eyed loon who lives on the internet and collects benefits, but they DO matter if you have a profession, a house, a family & LIVE in Scotland, I.e. You actually have something to lose.

The "independence debate", such as the sorry arsed thing that it is, has done nothing thus far to shed meaningful light on these fundamental issues; it is essentially childish pish. But what it has done is create huge divisions that weren't there before, for nought (independence support remains at one third, nowhere near high enough and hardly surprising for aforementioned reasons). Well done to all concerned eh. (And your ill tempered, unpleasant, personal post being a prime example)

Salmond: the banker who's been spectacularly wrong about everything, ever, and who shows every sign of maintaining this sorry record. How anyone could place one iota of faith in this guy is utterly beyond my wildest comprehension, frankly.

It's a referendum on getting statehood for Scotland – not a popularity contest about Alec Salmond. Pro-independence Scottish nationalists have existed long before Salmond was ever an elected politician, and will exist for a long time to come even if he dropped dead tomorrow.

When questioned on the “reverend” status the reaction of Mr Campbell was described as “sketchy“. Which it would be, of course. He claimed that he had trained for church orders – it’s worth mentioning that the Jedi religion refer to themselves as a church.

Most notably, the word “evasive” is also used by FT journo John Murray Brown in relation to Campbell’s alleged passion for independence and his irreconcilable adherence to living in England for almost half his adult life, referred to in the piece as “two decades”.

Yeah, I think that if it were general snarkiness about Stu in general and his old video games forum, etc, then it would be one thing. Instead it's about the Scottish independence thing, which he is a part of. I think there'd be heightened interest, just as there tends to be in anyone we tend to know.

Ooooo..... an interim constitution ....

Fair enough, but there did seem to be a fair bit of snarkiness in that dinnaeken blog. Also, if it's all about Scottish independence, why the need to point out Campbell's views on Hillsborough, for example? I don't agree with him as it happens, but "campaign to blame the victims" is a bit harsh.

This thread is about Scottish independence and he's become a prominent feature of that debate. I find it quite interesting to read about how his rantings are going down with a wider audience, if that's alright by you.

I thought the no-nukes clause was interesting. While I'm sure its a crowd pleaser (and many of us here would take it, either in the UK or rUK) it didn't seem to fit as anything other than that. It made me wonder why there aren't any other crowd pleasing pledges in there.

Of course it's alright by me, I find it interesting too, but if you're going to reply like that I'll say I just find it more interesting to read his and other people's arguments on the subject of independence rather than, for example, whether he has a flattop or not.

"Sanctimonious tit" is a bit over the flattop.

"Sanctimonious tit" is a bit over the flattop.

What about that he now appears to have a terrifying beard?

Maybe Mr Chris?

One would expect that if one is holding other people's views and attitudes up to the light, their own will receive similar judgement.

Jesus fucking christ, it was just a joke you sanctimonious tit.