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No, I meant what I said. It's news that Microsoft do this because Apple don't, but Apple bloody well should.

Quite.

I heard from someone that had a hands on with it that copy and paste is sort of in, but done a but differently.

You select text, the in looks at it, and give you options of how to use it. If it is an adress, it might have "search for on bing maps" as option number 1, "insert into message" as option number 2, and so on.
For a phone number it might have "ring" or "add to contacts" and so on.

Seems like a good idea, if done well.

That's how the iPhone v1 did it, more or less. Phone numbers would be in blue and when you tapped it you get a pop-up with "add to contacts", "call", "SMS", and so forth. The WP7S implementation sounds a little richer but it's still not remotely copy-and-paste.

It's not copy and paste at all, it's just context-sensitive actions.

I'm tentatively interested in making my next upgrade be to a Windows 7 phone, there's plenty of stuff in there to interest me - and having an iPad means I wouldn't be locked out of that platform.

Fairly in-depth reviews of the preview handsets are now available:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/cell-phones/m ... in;content

The only thing stopping me getting an android phone right now is wanting a W7 phone.

Early previews do look good, I have a few reservations (like the non-optional barfing up of Facebook contacts all over your phone). I think it'll live or die by the app support, and we won't really know that until mid-2011 or so.

That interests me actually -- who would buy this during launch month, and who would want to take a wait-and-see approach to the applications?

I would buy early - because I'm not interested so much in side-apps on my phone, I'm more interested with the core ones that will be in there at launch or very shortly after.

It can get fucked with the Facebook stuff. It's the same moronic idea as Buzz. My Twitter audience, facebook contacts, XBL friends, and actual family aren't the same people believe it or not, morons.

I wouldn't touch a phone system at launch with a barge pole, now I rely on my phone for far more than calls and text messages.

I'm kind of counting on being handed a free phone by Microsoft, admittedly.

WP7 isn't for you Enterprise boyos though, is it?

Oh, don't care about that. I just want a phone. They'll care enough to give us a few even though they're blatantly not suited. Nothing stopping us using a 3rd party solution like the ones available for iPhone, either.

Some details about the xbox live stuff for WP7, and what games are looking to be there at launch:

http://gizmodo.com/5614244/xbox-live-on ... mpressions

I do still really like the look of the WP7 interface. Whether or not it'll stand up as being usable, consistent and intuitive or not, I don't know. But I do like the screenshots, which is more than I can say for all the other phones being advertised now, copying that boring grid of icons with a few docked at the bottom.

Will it run Mine Craft?

Get an Xbox.

If you look closely at the video, at about 33 seconds in, you can clearly see a mouse cursor on Bejeweled.

Oh mouse support!

Clearly

Or, more boringly, a screengrab from a desktop based emulator.

or should that be a ?

I think we need a 'well yeah, duh!' Dimlie.

Some XBLA games for this phone have been announced at Gamescom. That's all I know, sorry

Fuck you, pay me.

I can't even remember how much it was.
£2?

Face got hit by lightning, huh?

Grim... didn't get rich by handing over dosh to lower class scum like you y'know.

Twelve is a fucking irritating number. And we also appear to be derailing this thread somewhat.

First ads surface - decidedly not as annoying as the awful 'woman who lives with rugby players' Microsoft ad.

Not good either. But not as bad as those fucking awful "Bing" adverts They need someone to do better adverts for them, though.

Did any of you see the video of the Thriller rendition and party they had on the streets of Silicone Valley to celebrate the finish of their phone (and, of course, the death of the iPhone, including giant iPhones in hearses)?

It was creepy as hell.

Mmm. Silicone Valley.

I stole Mimi's E key.

I liked the robotic Asian girl.

A friend of mine works for Orange and went to a conference the other day where he was shown a Windows phone. It wasn't finished as a load of the stuff wasn't working on it, oh.. and he had to sign a disclaimer saying he wouldn't tell anyone what he saw..

Anyway, he said it looked pretty good and the integration with Xbox live was spot on. They had avatars all over the place and you could earn gamer points through your phone. Very clever!

I wonder if clever hackers will get this to work on my desire. I'd be interested to give it a go.l

Um, I think I want one of these when my contract expires. What's the best handset to go for? I've lived in a homogenous market for the last three years.

I'm interested in the functions between the phone and Xbox live.. colour me interested!

I reckon the HTC HD7 looks like the pick of them.

Oh balls. Now I want that.

Oh that looks pretty!!

That does look quite lovely, and I'm far more impressed by that than I have been by any Android phone so far.

The HTC Hub animations look a bit over the top, mind, but of course that's a non-essential piece of software.

I sat there thinking "My Desire does that" most of the way through.
Someone has already copied the 'start menu' onto Android, too

No doubt. I just haven't been that impressed by (looking at) Android, where WP7 hits some sort of strings with me.

Though no doubt a lot of it is due to ‘hang on, Microsoft are pushing forward?’

British love of the underdog, innit. Funny old world where Microsoft are the clear underdog.

Could be, though I do think Microsoft are making some genuinely interesting—and possibly exciting—UI decisions with WP7.

The ui stuff certainly does look nice, but I am fairly sure it is not something I'd be giving up the lovely openness of android for.