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It'll doubtless be related to some sort of tax dodging douchebaggery. If they didn't pay cut rate taxes in Ireland would they still have broken the records?

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014.

What in the actual fuck?

Cras wrote:

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014.

What in the actual fuck?

How is it possible that you don't understand how accounting periods work?

Cras wrote:

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014.

What in the actual fuck?

How is it possible that you don't understand how accounting periods work?

Ipad pro, the same... But bigger!

The initial reaction to the announcement at the start of the thread is always an amusing read

Your life is worth less than this device.

Does the stylus come with the iPad? I read the stylus will cost $99 but it didn't say whether you'll have to buy it separately, mind you, I was looking for iPhone 6S stuff so I only skim read the article.

Saturnalian wrote:

I'm pretty sure you need to buy it separately if you want it.

For me the fundamental flaw in the new iPad is that it runs iOS. If you're going to go with that size/cost then a device that doesn't run a proper desktop OS just doesn't stack up well against the Surface. Yes, iOS has versions of a lot of software like Office etc but it doesn't have and do everything so why compromise? iOS, like Android, is still an OS for consumption and if you need to create it just doesn't measure up. I dunno, I'm sure I'm missing a trick here but it just seems to push iOS into a space it's not suitable for which is a weird decision. If there's a desire for capable Apple devices in that form factor then they need to design OSX for touch and slap that on something, but this isn't that.

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576

Yeah, I would probably agree with that. But then they'd probably be eating too much into MacBook Air sales so...

Future Warrior wrote:

Yeah, I would probably agree with that. But then they'd probably be eating too much into MacBook Air sales so...

True, but why not combine the lines? And a device of sufficient size could contain ipad and MacBook components, judging by the size of the 2015 Macbook's motherboard.

Grim... wrote:

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576

So have you got a Surface Pro then?

-edit- you also said this, so good work on 1-for-2.

viewtopic.php?p=373635#p373635

Future Warrior wrote:

Grim... wrote:

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576

So have you got a Surface Pro then?

Yup, a Pro 3 256GB i7. And a iPad 1

Future Warrior wrote:

-edit- you also said this, so good work on 1-for-2.

viewtopic.php?p=373635#p373635

I was surprised. 2 for 2!

Future Warrior wrote:

Grim... wrote:

http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576

So have you got a Surface Pro then?

Yup, a Pro 3 256GB i7. And a iPad 1

Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus.

ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:

Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus.

He mocked the iPad and bought one too, so it seems to be an alarming trend.

Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus.

I've just done a stocktake, and I've got the Surface Pro, iPad, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8, 2 x Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.2, and a Kindle Fire. Only the Surface Pro is ever used - I actually don't know where the others are (except the iPad - that's on the coffee table, but hasn't been charged up in a year or so).

There's also a Hudl (although that belongs to the Grimlet, and he uses it a lot).

Note that I only paid for the iPad, Hudl, Tab 8 and the Fire - the rest I acquired from work.

I have a box of 30 odd IPad 3 32GB that are doing nothing as we just upgraded everyone, door wedges spring to mind.

I can see a clear business case for better reading of comics on the Ipad Pro:)

The Pro is almost the same weight as the first iPad, and I used to hold that alright.

asfish wrote:

I have a box of 30 odd IPad 3 32GB that are doing nothing as we just upgraded everyone, door wedges spring to mind.

If they're going spare...

DavPaz wrote:

asfish wrote:

I have a box of 30 odd IPad 3 32GB that are doing nothing as we just upgraded everyone, door wedges spring to mind.

If they're going spare...

Or being sold...

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:47 ]
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markg wrote: It'll doubtless be related to some sort of tax dodging douchebaggery. If they didn't pay cut rate taxes in Ireland would they still have broken the records? Amazon paying cut rate taxes in Luxembourg didn't help them sell many Fire Phones.

Author:	markg [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:51 ]
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I'll grant you that Amazon are also a scummy company but one that is less good at selling phones.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 15:44 ]
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Cras wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014. What in the actual fuck? How is it possible that you don't understand how accounting periods work?

Author:	myp [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 15:47 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Cras wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014. What in the actual fuck? How is it possible that you don't understand how accounting periods work? HP's starts on 1st Nov.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 15:58 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Cras wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014. What in the actual fuck? How is it possible that you don't understand how accounting periods work? Fiscal 1Q15 starting at Calendar 4Q14 I can totally understand, but the week before?

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Author:	ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 16:03 ]
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52/53 week 'years' are not uncommon. Allows you to always have a year-end close on a friday, for example, which is very useful for businesses with significant amounts of stock that needs to be counted/audited at a fixed point in time.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 16:07 ]
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Huh. I totally failed the accounting module in my degree.

Author:	LaceSensor [ Thu Jan 29, 2015 17:57 ]
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i just got an air2, its swish. much swisher than the ipad2 it replaced...

Author:	DavPaz [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 18:44 ]
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Ipad pro, the same... But bigger!

Author:	Curiosity [ Wed Sep 09, 2015 19:39 ]
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The initial reaction to the announcement at the start of the thread is always an amusing read

Author:	TheCookie197 [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 0:06 ]
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DavPaz wrote: Ipad pro, the same... But bigger! I don't really see the point. From the accessories and size, they're obviously trying to compete with the Surface Pro, but I think they'd have been better with it running a version of OSX rather than iOS.

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:03 ]
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Curiosity wrote: The initial reaction to the announcement at the start of the thread is always an amusing read Dimrill wrote: Your life is worth less than this device. Still as true now as it ever was.

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:08 ]
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Three years old.

Author:	ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:29 ]
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It'll sell millions, and millions more than the Surface Pro, but iPad Pro fails as a genuine surface competitor on a fundamental - No built in kickstand and a flat keyboard. In fact the utilisation of the smart keyboard to provide a (non variable angle kickstand) is what forces the keyboard to be a flat keyboard. They've gone for form factor over utility on that front. Given that one of the main improvements from SP1 to SP3 has been cited as that feature/features, it's surprising that they have done the same thing. Also, and this is more trivial - the pencil has nowhere to go and as far as I can see no attempt at a solution to this. On the Surface there are three options - two official (magnetic - not strong, and the penloop which I've never tried) but there is also the penclip over the top which can hook onto the typecover fold easily and actually keeps it very secure, which MS don't 'promote'.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:29 ]
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Haha amaze! [edit] @ Myp's cartoon

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:33 ]
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Does the stylus come with the iPad? I read the stylus will cost $99 but it didn't say whether you'll have to buy it separately, mind you, I was looking for iPhone 6S stuff so I only skim read the article.

Author:	TheVision [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:35 ]
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I'm sorry.. I thought you said $99 for a stylus then. Must have been my mistake.

Author:	Bamba [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:05 ]
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Saturnalian wrote: Does the stylus come with the iPad? I read the stylus will cost $99 but it didn't say whether you'll have to buy it separately, mind you, I was looking for iPhone 6S stuff so I only skim read the article. I'm pretty sure you need to buy it separately if you want it. For me the fundamental flaw in the new iPad is that it runs iOS. If you're going to go with that size/cost then a device that doesn't run a proper desktop OS just doesn't stack up well against the Surface. Yes, iOS has versions of a lot of software like Office etc but it doesn't have and do everything so why compromise? iOS, like Android, is still an OS for consumption and if you need to create it just doesn't measure up. I dunno, I'm sure I'm missing a trick here but it just seems to push iOS into a space it's not suitable for which is a weird decision. If there's a desire for capable Apple devices in that form factor then they need to design OSX for touch and slap that on something, but this isn't that.

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:10 ]
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Bamba wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Does the stylus come with the iPad? I read the stylus will cost $99 but it didn't say whether you'll have to buy it separately, mind you, I was looking for iPhone 6S stuff so I only skim read the article. I'm pretty sure you need to buy it separately if you want it. For me the fundamental flaw in the new iPad is that it runs iOS. If you're going to go with that size/cost then a device that doesn't run a proper desktop OS just doesn't stack up well against the Surface. Yes, iOS has versions of a lot of software like Office etc but it doesn't have and do everything so why compromise? iOS, like Android, is still an OS for consumption and if you need to create it just doesn't measure up. I dunno, I'm sure I'm missing a trick here but it just seems to push iOS into a space it's not suitable for which is a weird decision. If there's a desire for capable Apple devices in that form factor then they need to design OSX for touch and slap that on something, but this isn't that. Yeah, I would probably agree with that. But then they'd probably be eating too much into MacBook Air sales so...

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:16 ]
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viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:20 ]
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Grim... wrote: http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576 So have you got a Surface Pro then? -edit- you also said this, so good work on 1-for-2. viewtopic.php?p=373635#p373635

Author:	DavPaz [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:20 ]
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Future Warrior wrote: Yeah, I would probably agree with that. But then they'd probably be eating too much into MacBook Air sales so... True, but why not combine the lines? And a device of sufficient size could contain ipad and MacBook components, judging by the size of the 2015 Macbook's motherboard.

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:22 ]
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DavPaz wrote: Future Warrior wrote: Yeah, I would probably agree with that. But then they'd probably be eating too much into MacBook Air sales so... True, but why not combine the lines? And a device of sufficient size could contain ipad and MacBook components, judging by the size of the 2015 Macbook's motherboard. I think that's the plan. OS X has become more and more iOSified over the last few years. I suspect they'll merge at some point.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:26 ]
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Future Warrior wrote: Grim... wrote: http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576 So have you got a Surface Pro then? Yup, a Pro 3 256GB i7. And an iPad 1 Future Warrior wrote: -edit- you also said this, so good work on 1-for-2. viewtopic.php?p=373635#p373635 I was surprised. 2 for 2!

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:30 ]
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Grim... wrote: Future Warrior wrote: Grim... wrote: http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=373576#p373576 So have you got a Surface Pro then? Yup, a Pro 3 256GB i7. And a iPad 1 Haha!

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:35 ]
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus. He mocked the iPad and bought one too, so it seems to be an alarming trend.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:38 ]
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus. The stylus should indeed be mocked. I think it's in my pen holder at work, where it's been since I got it.

Author:	DavPaz [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:38 ]
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I bet he's got a pair of crocs, too.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:39 ]
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Future Warrior wrote: ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus. He mocked the iPad and bought one too, so it seems to be an alarming trend. I had money back then. It was nice. (The money, not so much the iPad).

Author:	Kern [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:44 ]
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus.

Author:	myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:45 ]
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Yeah, the first iPad was a disappointment. Not so much the hardware (although a bit), but app support was rubbish. I love my Air 2.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:53 ]
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I've just done a stocktake, and I've got the Surface Pro, iPad, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8, 2 x Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.2, and a Kindle Fire. Only the Surface Pro is ever used - I actually don't know where the others are (except the iPad - that's on the coffee table, but hasn't been charged up in a year or so). There's also a Hudl (although that belongs to the Grimlet, and he uses it a lot). Note that I only paid for the iPad, Hudl, Tab 8 and the Fire - the rest I acquired from work.

Author:	asfish [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:51 ]
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I'll be getting some of everything as soon as they are out Our head office is in Belgium and they are always months behind UK release dates for new Apple stuff So I get contacted and asked to buy and ship them 3 or 4 of everything so they can "evaluate them" always get an upgrade for my trouble. Its always on their cost codes as well! I can see a clear business case for better reading of comics on the Ipad Pro:)

Author:	asfish [ Fri Sep 11, 2015 12:57 ]
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Grim... wrote: I've just done a stocktake, and I've got the Surface Pro, iPad, Samsung Galaxy Tab 8, 2 x Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.2, and a Kindle Fire. Only the Surface Pro is ever used - I actually don't know where the others are (except the iPad - that's on the coffee table, but hasn't been charged up in a year or so). There's also a Hudl (although that belongs to the Grimlet, and he uses it a lot). Note that I only paid for the iPad, Hudl, Tab 8 and the Fire - the rest I acquired from work. I have 2 IPad Air2, primary devices for my wife and I. Work issue. Then 3 IPad 3 which are just used for baby monitoring and one sits in the kitchen and is used for recipes. These were all bought from our US office after they upgraded the sales force. The US always buy the best of everything so these are 64GB Wi-Fi\3G, cost me $100 each. Also have a Surface 2 which is no use, I managed to get a Windows 10 preview on it and I'll be dammed if I can wipe the HD or get any sort of OS on it now. I have a box of 30 odd IPad 3 32GB that are doing nothing as we just upgraded everyone, door wedges spring to mind.