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Tablet sales are plummeting in general - the iPad is not immune to this.

The first page of this thread is hilarious.

I think you'll find I backed it from the get-go.

I would guess a lot of people held off updating phones that were out of contract so they could get the 6?

People are saying it was record demand for the new IPhone, the last 2 quarters profits were around $ 8 Billion.

You can prove anything with historical records of fact.

But everyone's replacing them every two years, so saturation still looks like big sales, not no sales.

Apple sold a fuckton in China, almost as many as the US according to some analysts. And the larger screened iPhones have unlocked parts of the market in places like Korea who wouldn't previously have considered iPhones.

It's all iPhones. iPad is down, seemingly because tablets are on a 3-5 year replacement cycle which is curbing growth.

Wait, I'm not really paying attention. Are they claiming to have sold 74.5m iphones since January 1st?

It's the last three months isn't it? Since the 6/6+ were released.

This is from page 2. Where's my 6 figure salary to be an analyst or something!?

It's 1Q15 of Apple's financial year, which started in the fourth week of September 2014. And it's not "claiming" as this came from an SEC financial filing; lying on that sends you directly to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect £200. It'll be an accurate figure.

That's a lot of phones.

Well, it is.

I'm sure no company has ever lied on their filings to the government before

Sure, Apple has lied loads on its SEC filings.

[citation needed]

What in the actual fuck?

They dance to their own tune.

It'll doubtless be related to some sort of tax dodging douchebaggery. If they didn't pay cut rate taxes in Ireland would they still have broken the records?

Amazon paying cut rate taxes in Luxembourg didn't help them sell many Fire Phones.

I'll grant you that Amazon are also a scummy company but one that is less good at selling phones.

How is it possible that you don't understand how accounting periods work?

HP's starts on 1st Nov.

Fiscal 1Q15 starting at Calendar 4Q14 I can totally understand, but the week before?

52/53 week 'years' are not uncommon. Allows you to always have a year-end close on a friday, for example, which is very useful for businesses with significant amounts of stock that needs to be counted/audited at a fixed point in time.

Huh. I totally failed the accounting module in my degree.

i just got an air2, its swish. much swisher than the ipad2 it replaced...

Ipad pro, the same... But bigger!

The initial reaction to the announcement at the start of the thread is always an amusing read

I don't really see the point. From the accessories and size, they're obviously trying to compete with the Surface Pro, but I think they'd have been better with it running a version of OSX rather than iOS.

Still as true now as it ever was.

Three years old.

It'll sell millions, and millions more than the Surface Pro, but iPad Pro fails as a genuine surface competitor on a fundamental - No built in kickstand and a flat keyboard. In fact the utilisation of the smart keyboard to provide a (non variable angle kickstand) is what forces the keyboard to be a flat keyboard. They've gone for form factor over utility on that front. Given that one of the main improvements from SP1 to SP3 has been cited as that feature/features, it's surprising that they have done the same thing.

Also, and this is more trivial - the pencil has nowhere to go and as far as I can see no attempt at a solution to this. On the Surface there are three options - two official (magnetic - not strong, and the penloop which I've never tried) but there is also the penclip over the top which can hook onto the typecover fold easily and actually keeps it very secure, which MS don't 'promote'.

Haha amaze!

[edit] @ Myp's cartoon

Does the stylus come with the iPad? I read the stylus will cost $99 but it didn't say whether you'll have to buy it separately, mind you, I was looking for iPhone 6S stuff so I only skim read the article.

I'm sorry.. I thought you said $99 for a stylus then. Must have been my mistake.

I'm pretty sure you need to buy it separately if you want it.

For me the fundamental flaw in the new iPad is that it runs iOS. If you're going to go with that size/cost then a device that doesn't run a proper desktop OS just doesn't stack up well against the Surface. Yes, iOS has versions of a lot of software like Office etc but it doesn't have and do everything so why compromise? iOS, like Android, is still an OS for consumption and if you need to create it just doesn't measure up. I dunno, I'm sure I'm missing a trick here but it just seems to push iOS into a space it's not suitable for which is a weird decision. If there's a desire for capable Apple devices in that form factor then they need to design OSX for touch and slap that on something, but this isn't that.

Yeah, I would probably agree with that. But then they'd probably be eating too much into MacBook Air sales so...

So have you got a Surface Pro then?

-edit- you also said this, so good work on 1-for-2.

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True, but why not combine the lines? And a device of sufficient size could contain ipad and MacBook components, judging by the size of the 2015 Macbook's motherboard.

I think that's the plan. OS X has become more and more iOSified over the last few years. I suspect they'll merge at some point.

Yup, a Pro 3 256GB i7. And an iPad 1


I was surprised. 2 for 2!

Haha!

Oddly my post missed my comment about Grim... keeping his surface quiet after he mocked my stylus.

He mocked the iPad and bought one too, so it seems to be an alarming trend.

The stylus should indeed be mocked. I think it's in my pen holder at work, where it's been since I got it.

I bet he's got a pair of crocs, too.