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JohnCoffey wrote:

Nvidia announce Pascal Titan X, for $1200.

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/ ... -announced

Few things to note. It seems to be missing 256 shaders from the full spec, so they could be going for a double Titan release with this one (just to be greedy, like) like they did with the Titan/Titan Black. It costs $1200 and has pretty lame clock speeds, presumably down to the cooler which had trouble with the 1080. It's also missing HBM2, which was supposedly going to be on it. So IMO they will con the suckers again, then wait six months and release the real? Titan P.

Either way it's just more of the sublime from Nvidia. Oh yeah, you can only buy it from them too.

I am confused, how is it a con?

KovacsC wrote:

JohnCoffey wrote:

I am confused, how is it a con?

Because I think it is.

JC what do you think a "con" is?

an explanation is handy.. an item is not a con, unless you are being mislead. But the stats and price you quote, just make it expensive, not a con

It is like saying an Aston MArtin is a con

When I was in primary school we had a test each week to show we knew what words meant. This would have been year three, so around 6 years old.

Mr Russell wrote:

When I was in primary school we had a test each week to show we knew what words meant. This would have been year three, so around 6 years old.

My Daughter Starts year 3 in September, she's 7 and will be 8 by the end of the year ( so slightly out with the age, although not taking anything away from the point!

;-D

A quick straw poll of two people from south London who I happen to be with think you're just an idiot that can't word properly.

He was quite rightly told off by the teacher for being technically correct, but not actually taking the test properly because there was no way to prove he knew what on earth he was talking about.

I don't know what my point is here, other than to say that saying "a con is a con" sounds like something a 6 year old child would say and feel quite smug with themselves.

JC what do you think a "con" is?

I don't know why I read this thread, but I do.

Zardoz wrote:

I don't know why I read this thread, but I do.

Me too. I don't have a PC.

Sure thang. If you want it before next week, you'll have to pop around to ours tonight to pick it up, although I'm not there (work night out) - Jem will have to go upstairs and bring it down. It's been sat on my desk for a while so probably needs the dust blowing out of it, but other than that should be fine

If you do pop around tonight, just drop Jem a line on FB or what have you to let her know first please dude

One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on.

Sir Taxalot wrote:

One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on.

Current issue of PC Pro had a 'Gaming PC for £700' feature, they were coming in with overclocked quad-core i5s, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSDs, GTX 960s and Windows 10 - so really capable machines for 1080p gaming without costing the earth.

Asus HP etc have all announced they're going to put up UK prices by 9-10% due to the drop of the £.

Sir Taxalot wrote:

One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on.

Grim... wrote:

Yup.

Uhh, but it doesn't let you install games to it.

Oh,bugger. Hmm. Am i stuck with 500meg for games for ever, then?

MaliA wrote:

Oh,bugger. Hmm. Am i stuck with 500meg for games for ever, then?

No, but you have to swap out the internal HDD. It's a straightforward process, however.

Grim... wrote:

Yup.

Uhh, but it doesn't let you install games to it.

Hearthly wrote:

£2200

Yeah it's a shame you can't buy a gaming PC for less than that.

I suppose it is on par for a set of golf clubs or a decent road bike.. hobbies can be expensive

and I have to drop down to 1080p or make unacceptable settings compromises at 1440p.

Hearthly wrote:

and I have to drop down to 1080p or make unacceptable settings compromises at 1440p.

I played Soul Calibur on my Dreamcast the other day and I was amazed at how great it looked. I'm not sure what my point is here other than that you'd probably pass out seeing some of the games I enjoy.

Unless you are earning money from it, it is a hobby

Hearthly wrote:

and I have to drop down to 1080p or make unacceptable settings compromises at 1440p.

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:46 ]
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KovacsC wrote: JohnCoffey wrote: Nvidia announce Pascal Titan X, for $1200. http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/ ... -announced Few things to note. It seems to be missing 256 shaders from the full spec, so they could be going for a double Titan release with this one (just to be greedy, like) like they did with the Titan/Titan Black. It costs $1200 and has pretty lame clock speeds, presumably down to the cooler which had trouble with the 1080. It's also missing HBM2, which was supposedly going to be on it. So IMO they will con the suckers again, then wait six months and release the real? Titan P. Either way it's just more of the sublime from Nvidia. Oh yeah, you can only buy it from them too. I am confused, how is it a con? Because I think it is.

Author:	KovacsC [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:21 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote: KovacsC wrote: JohnCoffey wrote: Nvidia announce Pascal Titan X, for $1200. http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/ ... -announced Few things to note. It seems to be missing 256 shaders from the full spec, so they could be going for a double Titan release with this one (just to be greedy, like) like they did with the Titan/Titan Black. It costs $1200 and has pretty lame clock speeds, presumably down to the cooler which had trouble with the 1080. It's also missing HBM2, which was supposedly going to be on it. So IMO they will con the suckers again, then wait six months and release the real? Titan P. Either way it's just more of the sublime from Nvidia. Oh yeah, you can only buy it from them too. I am confused, how is it a con? Because I think it is. But you are not being 'conned' out of money as you don't have to upgrade. it is a choice, a daft choice but not a con

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:30 ]
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I think it's a con.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:39 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote: I think it's a con. That's not how words work. It's not really how any of this works.

Author:	myp [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 11:42 ]
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I took a phone call the other day - I thought it was my bank manager but I got conned and now I own a Pascal Titan X.

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Author:	JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 15:43 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: JC what do you think a "con" is? Pascal Titan X.

Author:	KovacsC [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 15:49 ]
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an explanation is handy.. an item is not a con, unless you are being mislead. But the stats and price you quote, just make it expensive, not a con It is like saying an Aston MArtin is a con

Author:	Mr Russell [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 15:59 ]
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When I was in primary school we had a test each week to show we knew what words meant. This would have been year three, so around 6 years old. It would be formatted such: a tree is ..................... a biscuit is ................. a road is .................... etc. ... where you would write in things like "a road is where cars go". My friend would take the words he couldn't do (for example 'biscuit'), and write "a biscuit is a biscuit." He was quite rightly told off by the teacher for being technically correct, but not actually taking the test properly because there was no way to prove he knew what on earth he was talking about. I don't know what my point is here, other than to say that saying "a con is a con" sounds like something a 6 year old child would say and feel quite smug with themselves.

Author:	Cras [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 16:00 ]
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See also 'Brexit is Brexit'

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 16:10 ]
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KovacsC wrote: an explanation is handy.. an item is not a con, unless you are being mislead. But the stats and price you quote, just make it expensive, not a con It is like saying an Aston MArtin is a con It's part of my vocabulary, being from South London. If something is a rip off or stupidly expensive it's a con, a skank, pants down etc. So I still think it's a con, even if it may not be correct grammar.

Author:	Malc [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 16:24 ]
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Mr Russell wrote: When I was in primary school we had a test each week to show we knew what words meant. This would have been year three, so around 6 years old. My Daughter Starts year 3 in September, she's 7 and will be 8 by the end of the year ( so slightly out with the age, although not taking anything away from the point! ;-D

Author:	Cras [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 16:36 ]
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Malc wrote: Mr Russell wrote: When I was in primary school we had a test each week to show we knew what words meant. This would have been year three, so around 6 years old. My Daughter Starts year 3 in September, she's 7 and will be 8 by the end of the year ( so slightly out with the age, although not taking anything away from the point! ;-D Don't forget they changed it all around somewhere around 1992 or so. Somebody thought the education system was too simple so decided to start counting school years from zero.

Author:	Grim... [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 19:16 ]
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A quick straw poll of two people from south London who I happen to be with think you're just an idiot that can't word properly.

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 22:47 ]
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Grim... wrote: A quick straw poll of two people from south London who I happen to be with think you're just an idiot that can't word properly. Tell them both not to buy a Pascal Titan X. It's a right con.

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 22:35 ]
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It's beginning to look like this is going to be the card to have https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire ... 7d-sp.html And a review. http://www.pcworld.com/article/3098825/ ... fined.html It should be in stock soon. Also just took a look on OCUK at 1060s and it seems all of the cheap ones have sold out, leaving only the expensive ones. At this price point every last penny is critical really. I mean, it could make the difference between SSD and no SSD. The Nitro is a tip top card. Built like a tank and looks lovely too. Plus it'll be far more quiet than the stock card and won't throttle if you overclock it. I would imagine the only card Nvidia will offer for £199 will be the 1060 3gb, but that isn't even a full 1060. The core has been cut as well as the memory.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:42 ]
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I remembered - my gfx card is an X1800GTO Anyone staying up waiting eagerly for this update can now go to bed and rest easy.

Author:	MaliA [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:59 ]
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Can i plug any usb hard drive into my PS4?

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:30 ]
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I need to get around to it, but I'm wondering if the PS4 Neo will sort out whatever ails SSD performance on the normal PS4. And then I could bung a big SSD in and have LUXE PLAYSTATION LIKE A BIG MAN. I now propose we talk about console gaming hardware in this thread for as many posts as PC gamers have spent talking about PC gaming hardware in console threads.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:56 ]
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Mr Russell wrote: He was quite rightly told off by the teacher for being technically correct, but not actually taking the test properly because there was no way to prove he knew what on earth he was talking about. I don't know what my point is here, other than to say that saying "a con is a con" sounds like something a 6 year old child would say and feel quite smug with themselves. What's right is right.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:04 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: JC what do you think a "con" is? Galvatron

Author:	Hearthly [ Sun Jul 24, 2016 17:33 ]
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So it looks like the RX480 generally bests the GTX970 but can't keep up with the GTX1060. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... 8gb-review The 970 match-up would have been impressive six months ago when the 970 was still £250 but of course it's end of line now and available for the same price as the RX480, if not a bit cheaper. (Both cards are around the £200 mark.) The 1060 looks like it'll be landing at about £230-£240, so more expensive than the RX480 for not much extra performance. Long story short is AMD have a genuinely competitive mid-range card, which is great news, if only they could scale that out to something capable of jousting with the 1070/1080, and give Nvidia a bit of much needed competition in the high-end market segment.

Author:	Mimi [ Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:55 ]
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Zardoz wrote: I don't know why I read this thread, but I do. Me too. I don't have a PC.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Mon Jul 25, 2016 23:41 ]
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Mimi wrote: Zardoz wrote: I don't know why I read this thread, but I do. Me too. I don't have a PC. I have a PC that's about 10 years old (AMD 64x2 3800 with a graphics card that has GTO at the end of the name but I forget the numbers), and I come here just so I can blag may way through a discussion with a PC nerd if I ever need to. Which is rarely. One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on.

Author:	KovacsC [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:31 ]
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GazChap wrote: Sure thang. If you want it before next week, you'll have to pop around to ours tonight to pick it up, although I'm not there (work night out) - Jem will have to go upstairs and bring it down. It's been sat on my desk for a while so probably needs the dust blowing out of it, but other than that should be fine If you do pop around tonight, just drop Jem a line on FB or what have you to let her know first please dude Cheers dude, I now have Windows 10 installed.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:41 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote: One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on. Current issue of PC Pro had a 'Gaming PC for £700' feature, they were coming in with overclocked quad-core i5s, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSDs, GTX 960s and Windows 10 - so really capable machines for 1080p gaming without costing the earth.

Author:	Sir Taxalot [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 13:03 ]
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Hearthly wrote: Sir Taxalot wrote: One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on. Current issue of PC Pro had a 'Gaming PC for £700' feature, they were coming in with overclocked quad-core i5s, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSDs, GTX 960s and Windows 10 - so really capable machines for 1080p gaming without costing the earth. Goodness, they seem like big numbers. Even 700 sterlings is little beyond me right now though, but one day. I also neglected to mention that I am short of time as well as coin. Given that I still find the graphics on the 360 pretty impressive, something like that spec would most likely seem like a mahoosive step up to me.

Author:	MaliA [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 13:09 ]
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It's 2.5 PS4s.

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 13:39 ]
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Asus HP etc have all announced they're going to put up UK prices by 9-10% due to the drop of the £.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 13:56 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote: Asus HP etc have all announced they're going to put up UK prices by 9-10% due to the drop of the £. Yes my amazing plan to sit tight on buying a new PC until the 1070/1080 prices drop down a bit is being somewhat undermined by the fact that the prices of everything else is either going up or about to go up. Maybe I'll just spend the cash on blackjack and hookers instead.

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:24 ]
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Hearthly wrote: Sir Taxalot wrote: One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on. Current issue of PC Pro had a 'Gaming PC for £700' feature, they were coming in with overclocked quad-core i5s, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSDs, GTX 960s and Windows 10 - so really capable machines for 1080p gaming without costing the earth. £700 for a PC with a 960 in it IMO is too much. For a long time it was possible to build something for more like £500 with a I3 and 7850 in it so it kinda sucks that the entry price has jumped by £200. Sadly though I3s are no longer worth having (because certain games kick off about them not having enough cores) and the FX6300 is starting to look like a dinosaur. Apparently AMD are working on a quad core Zen chip that has a GPU on it very similar to the RX 460. This could really bring down the price of entry, but we won't know until January next year. For now though? I would say RX 480 (the cheapest one you can get your hands on) and a FX6300 with a £45 motherboard could still be doable for less than £500. It might not be the quickest CPU in existence but at least it has enough cores to stop games throwing wobblies. If I can get some free time later I may see what I can do with £500.

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:17 ]
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Yup.

Author:	MaliA [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:24 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Grim... wrote: Yup. Uhh, but it doesn't let you install games to it. Oh,bugger. Hmm. Am i stuck with 500meg for games for ever, then?

Author:	myp [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:28 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: MaliA wrote: Oh,bugger. Hmm. Am i stuck with 500meg for games for ever, then? No, but you have to swap out the internal HDD. It's a straightforward process, however. I did it the first day I got my PS4. I've got 1TB and still nowhere near filling it. And if you have 500MB I would say definitely swap it.

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:43 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Grim... wrote: Yup. Uhh, but it doesn't let you install games to it. Nope.

Author:	Zardoz [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:18 ]
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Shit, didn't even think about popping an SSD into my PS4.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:19 ]
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Don't. They're only a modest amount faster than HDDs. There's an analysis on Eurogamer.

Author:	JohnCoffey [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:23 ]
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It can be game dependent though. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... erformance For example sees a massive decrease in load times.

Author:	Hearthly [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 23:15 ]
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First Titan-X (the new Pascal one) based PCs are now available from Scan but not the card by itself. However, going off the price of the PCs they're housed in and doing a rough estimate of the cost of the other components it looks like it'll be coming in at about £900 for the card. BARGAIN. On a wider note I've pretty much fucking given up on a new PC for now, the price of everything has gone up by about 10% due to the pound tanking and has pushed the overall cost of a suitable new PC into the 'it offends me' category so I'll just keep my current one running for the forseeable future. I had a go at speccing a new one up over the weekend and it was like £2200 and I'm just thinking fuck that. I mean, if my current PC actually explodes it'll need replacing, but other than that it's just going to have to soldier on.