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Me too. I think it's just to put to bed any desire to get back into PC gaming. It really works.

Kovacs gets first dibs on the graphics card - what PSU do you have in your PC though, Mark? It needs quite a hefty one IIRC.

I have a 600W PSU, I just need a slightly better card than my 4800 as not win 10 compatible

If Dav wants it let him have it.. i am not in a rush

600W is plenty for it, so that's fine.

Up to you dude, it's ready to go whenever you are.

I will take it is that is ok

Sure thang. If you want it before next week, you'll have to pop around to ours tonight to pick it up, although I'm not there (work night out) - Jem will have to go upstairs and bring it down. It's been sat on my desk for a while so probably needs the dust blowing out of it, but other than that should be fine

If you do pop around tonight, just drop Jem a line on FB or what have you to let her know first please dude

I can wait till another night

Cool beans.

Bah.

(joking, by the way)

You can have my 970 if you like. £190

If you can do it for an even £200 I'll take it.

I know you like numbers divisible by 100 and 4 so let's make it £400

100 is divisible by four. Just saying.

Yeah but that gives you an odd number and no one wants that.

I'll give you £200 / 4 then.

£4 / 200 and we'll round it down to make it simpler.

How about £4000

Nvidia announce Pascal Titan X, for $1200.

http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/ ... -announced

Few things to note. It seems to be missing 256 shaders from the full spec, so they could be going for a double Titan release with this one (just to be greedy, like) like they did with the Titan/Titan Black. It costs $1200 and has pretty lame clock speeds, presumably down to the cooler which had trouble with the 1080. It's also missing HBM2, which was supposedly going to be on it. So IMO they will con the suckers again, then wait six months and release the real? Titan P.

Either way it's just more of the sublime from Nvidia. Oh yeah, you can only buy it from them too.

I am confused, how is it a con?

yours for £80

Because I think it is.

But you are not being 'conned' out of money as you don't have to upgrade. it is a choice, a daft choice but not a con

I think it's a con.

That's not how words work.

It's not really how any of this works.

I took a phone call the other day - I thought it was my bank manager but I got conned and now I own a Pascal Titan X.

JC what do you think a "con" is?

Pascal Titan X.

an explanation is handy.. an item is not a con, unless you are being mislead. But the stats and price you quote, just make it expensive, not a con

It is like saying an Aston MArtin is a con

When I was in primary school we had a test each week to show we knew what words meant. This would have been year three, so around 6 years old.

It would be formatted such:
a tree is .....................
a biscuit is .................
a road is ....................
etc.
... where you would write in things like "a road is where cars go".

My friend would take the words he couldn't do (for example 'biscuit'), and write "a biscuit is a biscuit."

He was quite rightly told off by the teacher for being technically correct, but not actually taking the test properly because there was no way to prove he knew what on earth he was talking about.

I don't know what my point is here, other than to say that saying "a con is a con" sounds like something a 6 year old child would say and feel quite smug with themselves.

See also 'Brexit is Brexit'

It's part of my vocabulary, being from South London. If something is a rip off or stupidly expensive it's a con, a skank, pants down etc.

So I still think it's a con, even if it may not be correct grammar.

My Daughter Starts year 3 in September, she's 7 and will be 8 by the end of the year ( so slightly out with the age, although not taking anything away from the point!

;-D

Don't forget they changed it all around somewhere around 1992 or so. Somebody thought the education system was too simple so decided to start counting school years from zero.

A quick straw poll of two people from south London who I happen to be with think you're just an idiot that can't word properly.

Tell them both not to buy a Pascal Titan X. It's a right con.

What's right is right.

Galvatron

So it looks like the RX480 generally bests the GTX970 but can't keep up with the GTX1060.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... 8gb-review

The 970 match-up would have been impressive six months ago when the 970 was still £250 but of course it's end of line now and available for the same price as the RX480, if not a bit cheaper. (Both cards are around the £200 mark.)

The 1060 looks like it'll be landing at about £230-£240, so more expensive than the RX480 for not much extra performance.

Long story short is AMD have a genuinely competitive mid-range card, which is great news, if only they could scale that out to something capable of jousting with the 1070/1080, and give Nvidia a bit of much needed competition in the high-end market segment.

It's beginning to look like this is going to be the card to have

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapphire ... 7d-sp.html

And a review.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3098825/ ... fined.html

It should be in stock soon. Also just took a look on OCUK at 1060s and it seems all of the cheap ones have sold out, leaving only the expensive ones. At this price point every last penny is critical really. I mean, it could make the difference between SSD and no SSD.

The Nitro is a tip top card. Built like a tank and looks lovely too. Plus it'll be far more quiet than the stock card and won't throttle if you overclock it. I would imagine the only card Nvidia will offer for £199 will be the 1060 3gb, but that isn't even a full 1060. The core has been cut as well as the memory.

Me too. I don't have a PC.

I have a PC that's about 10 years old (AMD 64x2 3800 with a graphics card that has GTO at the end of the name but I forget the numbers), and I come here just so I can blag may way through a discussion with a PC nerd if I ever need to. Which is rarely.

One day when I have more spends available I'd like to build a kickass PC for typing and playing games on.

I remembered - my gfx card is an X1800GTO

Anyone staying up waiting eagerly for this update can now go to bed and rest easy.

Cheers dude, I now have Windows 10 installed.

Current issue of PC Pro had a 'Gaming PC for £700' feature, they were coming in with overclocked quad-core i5s, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSDs, GTX 960s and Windows 10 - so really capable machines for 1080p gaming without costing the earth.

Goodness, they seem like big numbers. Even 700 sterlings is little beyond me right now though, but one day. I also neglected to mention that I am short of time as well as coin.

Given that I still find the graphics on the 360 pretty impressive, something like that spec would most likely seem like a mahoosive step up to me.

It's 2.5 PS4s.

Asus HP etc have all announced they're going to put up UK prices by 9-10% due to the drop of the £.

Yes my amazing plan to sit tight on buying a new PC until the 1070/1080 prices drop down a bit is being somewhat undermined by the fact that the prices of everything else is either going up or about to go up.

Maybe I'll just spend the cash on blackjack and hookers instead.

£700 for a PC with a 960 in it IMO is too much. For a long time it was possible to build something for more like £500 with a I3 and 7850 in it so it kinda sucks that the entry price has jumped by £200. Sadly though I3s are no longer worth having (because certain games kick off about them not having enough cores) and the FX6300 is starting to look like a dinosaur.

Apparently AMD are working on a quad core Zen chip that has a GPU on it very similar to the RX 460. This could really bring down the price of entry, but we won't know until January next year. For now though? I would say RX 480 (the cheapest one you can get your hands on) and a FX6300 with a £45 motherboard could still be doable for less than £500. It might not be the quickest CPU in existence but at least it has enough cores to stop games throwing wobblies. If I can get some free time later I may see what I can do with £500.

Can i plug any usb hard drive into my PS4?