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I will be getting a 1070. It's due later in the summer apparently. The Fury X will go into Nicola's rig if I can mount both the rads and the Titan Black will go into the TV rig giving that a nice shot in the arm

4gb of HBM simply isn't enough as I have found out.

Hairy Bollocked Men?

1070 here I come (in about a year probably)!

Yeah I'm sold on that I think Definitely waiting for the nice coolers though those stock ones look awful.

Apparently they get quite hot too so the cooler will have its work cut out. Had a few complaints from Titan X owners that the stock design was beginning to creak a little.

I wouldn't expect these to run as hot as the Titan X, though.

Apparently they do, with a top temp said to be 96c. However, the 1080 only has one 8 pin connector so it's who you believe right now. Nvidia say the normal working temp is in the 70s which wouldn't be too bad, but the Titan X had a similar working temp and the fan was noisy. I don't know if they have done any work under the hood or just let some idiot squash it but either way I think I will wait for AIB partners to improve the PCB and cooler design

Oh yeah, they are binning chips it would seem, with both cards coming with a better version (I forget what Nvidia call it now) but these versions are $100 more (Partner versions?) and can clock to 2.1ghz

So yeah, they will probably get hot but with only one 8 pin they shouldn't be very greedy power wise. I've had a real gut full with these AMD cards. The other day during a four hour The Division session my main card was fucking throttling. It's no big deal, it was partly my fault (due to the case restrictions I have only one Fury X can be ran with two aftermarket fans) I just need to switch them around I must have put them in backward after the recent clean. When running as a pair the card gets enough cooling from the one fan, but as a main card it gets really hot and starts to throttle.

If the VRAM wasn't so stupidly low I would not be eyeing up a new card, but 4gb is totally poxy. I'm just glad I bought them both quite cheap.

I've already posted a graph showing power draw of the 1080 compared to current cards http://uploadvr.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... 204116.jpg

The binned cards are called "Founders Edition".

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/news/nvi ... er-97.html

Rumour is that Nvidia are guaranteeing 2ghz.

Sorry, missed that. But yeah, as I expected.

Jesus. The OCUK marketplace has been flooded with 980tis. People actually think they are going to get £440 for them too. Ebay prices are also plummeting it would seem. OCUK humour is on top form however, with some one just posting this. "The person who bought a 980ti recently and trying to sell it".

I can honestly say that the one thing I've never, ever, given any thought to whatsoever when it comes to PC components, is "what the cooler on the graphics card looks like".

As long as it does a respectable job of keeping the card cool and stops it from throttling (I'm looking at you, AMD), and doesn't make too much noise whilst it's about it (I'm looking at you, AMD) - that'll be fine.

The last AMD card on a stock cooler I had the misfortune to be in the same room as was a mate who bought a 290X - that was an unpleasant experience. Fortunately for him it broke and he was able to replace it with a 780Ti - and thus ended his brief foray into the world of AMD.

I'll probably go 'whole new PC' a in two or three months time, mine is properly cracking on a bit now, and the latest wave of games are starting push it a bit at 1440p. Witcher 3 and The Division even necessitated a drop down to 1080p to maintain full pretties and 60FPS, which made me a bit tweaky. (Non-native res, and all that.)

As bad as the stock 290x cooler was (I've had a 290 stock) it wasn't much worse than the GTX 480 you used to have. You need to remember that when Nvidia were playing "Titan" AMD came along with a card just as fast for half the price. The 290x was so successful that AMD are still making them today (with better coolers and more VRAM).

My personal throttling issue should not have been happening. I have two of them (Fury X rads) mounted in the front, but due to clearance issues I can only use one fan on pull. Not only that, but these are my own fans and I have removed the PWM fans that came on them. My main card is obviously doing all of the work, and somewhere at some point I must have accidentally switched them around so that the main card was the one with only one fan on. The other card has two 120mm fans in push pull. As a secondary card it gets nowhere near as hot and I knew that and had designed the layout that way. I must have gotten confused when fitting the second card. Any way, the Division soars along at 60 FPS on one card here.

There are options for 290/x coolers too dude. Most namely Corsair's AIO adapter. Max temps you will see out of one of those is 60c with the fan on idle.

I wouldn't necessarily take issue with any of that, but the fact remains that on the stock cooler the 290X ran bastard hot, throttled itself to buggery, and even in a well-ventilated case, as my mate found out - was quite capable of frying itself.

The GTX480 was a pretty nonsensical card in a lot of ways, but mine gave two or three years of solid service (I honestly forget how long I had it for), and I only moved on when it couldn't hack (IIRC) BF3 maxed out at 1440p. (And I sold it on for £50.) The fan wasn't even that noisy, on account it having a heatstink the size of a small planet that you could prepare a hearty meal of eggs and bacon on

As for the next-gen architectures, it looks like AMD are targeting Polaris at the mid-range and mobile spaces, keeping the R9 Fury at the top of their product stack, which is fine of course but makes the 1070/1080 far more interesting IMO.

Sucks to be someone that just bought a 980.

Like me.

Sucks to be someone looking to pick up a second hand 980 cheap from some VR enthusiast upgrading to a 1080.

Oh, wait, no it doesn't.

Does it do what you need it to? I mean yeah, obviously it stings a bit because the 1080 is apparently twice as fast in VR (because of the shite memory bus and so on that the 980 uses and how it isn't great for DX12) but if it does what you need it to then I wouldn't sweat it dude

I mean think about how I bought three Titan Black cards for £700 a go, only for Nvidia to launch the 970 which was nearly as fast for half that three months later. It doesn't seem to matter when you buy a GPU you always get burnt. But that's technology and a company who will roll on regardless making you want all of their new toys.

Been a lot of discussion on this on various forums I visit and the general feeling seems to be that it won't be long before Nvidia hit a brick wall like Intel have, so need to milk it whilst they can. That means "Founder editions" and so on, the old bottled air technique. How do you sell a mid range piece of silicon for Titan price? well you hype the fuck out of it then call it Founder's edition and sell it for £550 even though that is more than high end Maxwell cost just before..

The 970 and 980 were literally *just* about fit for purpose really. Both had awful memory systems and crappy bandwidth and all of the muscle simply wasn't there like it was on the 780ti and 980ti. However, they sold by the fuck load. It's very clever by Nvidia really. I don't know whether they did it deliberately to make the 1080 so much better for VR or whether they just keep getting lucky.

Fury X, £250 inc next day UPS.

Card.



Packed.



And boxed.

First ever reverse unboxing I've ever seen. Reboxing.

If we had a couple of pics in B&W it could be a really nerdy version of Memento.

I think most Crossfire users would be well versed in it really Apart from those who bought the 295x2.

Fury X has sold. So has GTX 760 Mars so has Titan Black. All I have to do now is move the second Fury X into Mrs JC's PC and I will be ready !

This could be a new thing. Maybe I should work on the kids, instead of watching youtube videos where spoilt kids get more and more toys out, we could make our own - of putting stuff the hell away

This looks like a job for my mom and dads loft! I've got tons of toys up there, most of which have boxes stored away. I'm in the process of reboxing them all at the moment.

Even I never saw that happening lmao.

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it is a pic of a graphics a card

Kov's PC knowledge is improving.

Just bought it.

You bought a pic of a graphics card? Next you'll be telling me you've joined the Star Citizen crew and have bought pictures of a spaceship.

I bought an xbox box.

Got one of those too.

I have been revising

Have you thought of getting a hobby that gets you outside and fitter

Alright Roger Bannister, no need to be rude

Yeah of course dude. I've lost quite a bit of weight and am far more active than I had been in years. I've also come off of one of the meds that messes with your thyroid and makes you fat

But yeah, been going out more than ever lately (Glastonbury Hampshire, off to Dorset this weekend)

My blood sugar levels are also back to normal levels as I've almost completely ditched sugar.

So I'll ask the obvious question then, why get one of them when the 1080 is out later this month?

A few reasons. Now that the excitement has died down and some people have realised what Nvidia actually said (I will post a link to a video in a moment) I realised that I did not need any more power from a GPU, just VRAM. Since dropping to 1440p the only issue that I am left with is that several of the new games run over the 4gb of HBM and cause terrible stuttering. This means I have to reduce settings, but not because of overall power. TBH dude a 980ti would do me fine, but I sold three GPUs (one Fury X, my old Titan Black from Mrs JC's rig and a Mars 760) and did pretty well out of it.

The 1080 is available in around three weeks time (or maybe two) however a few things were starting to become clear. A video I watched earlier shows that the 1080 according to Nvidia's chart is 22% faster than a Titan X. The "As fast as 980 SLI" only pertains to VR (watch the video when you get a chance, it explains everything). Whilst I admit that the 1080 will be faster than a Titan X it's one of those scenarios where I am asking myself, just how much power is enough? for 1440p the Titan X will batter anything..

Then we come to price. The Titan X I bought is six months old (Asus from OCUK) and still has 1.5 years warranty. I paid £500 delivered for it. The 1080 "founders edition" is basically a stock card. The price will be $699, and given gouging, stock levels, etc I would not be surprised AT ALL if it comes in at around £600, possibly even more. The other versions with a MSRP of $599 will not arrive for about a month after Nvidia have taken every one to the cleaners.

Obviously the 1070 will be far cheaper, but there is practically no information on it yet whatsoever apart from Nvidia saying that it would be as fast as a Titan X. As fast as a Titan X in what exactly? no one knows. It too however will only come as a Founder edition and that means that the aftermarket cards (and one I would want) could be two months away. That is too long. I remember when the 970 came out. It wasn't as fast as a Titan Black (close at low resolutions) had 30% less VRAM (similar to the 12 vs 8gb here) and so on. Maybe I could get a founders 1070 at launch for £400 or so but TBH? I would prefer to have the Titan X. I just don't think the 1070 will be as fast in everything. Maybe one thing? maybe more? but not all.

Then of course there's the fact that the Founders edition cards are probably the most ugly fucking cards ever, and it bothers me.

The EVGA hyrbid kit just cost me £40. So I am in for £540 and am very happy with that. Any way, watch this video dude

In this day and age I don't need to take the word of one Youtube video when I have millions at my finger tips.

I would be getting the 1070 or 1080 for the power consumption alone. The Titan X looks ridiculous now.

i was not being rude... just JC has said before he wants to get fitter

You said it in direct response to him talking about his computer, so it was a snide insinuation that he just sits around using a PC all day and doesn't get out. So yeah, it was rude.

Fair enough, and the Titan X is a very lust-worthy card

It'll be interesting to see what happens to the prices on them once the 980 hits, there could be a point where they become a tempting proposition depending on where the price of the 980 ends up. (I appreciate that point has arrived for you already )

I also share your reservations about '1070 is as fast as Titan X', we'll have to wait and see on that one. Maybe the 1070 really will just outclass the Titan X in everything, or as you say, maybe it'll be a bit of a 'terms and conditions apply' kind of deal.

Was not intended to be rude

I thought they'd said it was as fast as two Titan X's, when it came to VR? And surely the whole "as fast as 980 SLI" really just depends on how well SLI has been implemented into the application in the first place?

They aimed to confuse people and they succeeded. This (Pascal) is mid range silicon but since Fermi Nvidia have become great at marketing it at higher and higher prices.

Yay for Titan X !

I was worried that I had done the wrong thing but reasoned that I could only push 70 FPS @ 1440p any way and man, it absolutely flies. None of this horse shit I was getting from the Fury X with VRAM either, Doom runs butter smooth even at Nightmare settings Just ordered myself one of these. I don't want to fit the hydro kit until I have one.

Reviews of the 1080 Founder's Edition have gone live; http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/0 ... 80-review/

Better than I expected. However, after raking through tons of benchmarks that I feel are appropriate to me (1440p) and the games I play it's only 10-20% faster than the Titan X but looks like it is set to cost over 20% more than I paid. It could well put an end to SLi once and for all though, because the 1080p actually seems to be faster across the board than 980 SLi in pretty much everything which is quite a serious feat of engineering.

I always play with sync on, so there's only pretty much 70hz for me to contend with and the Titan X does it easily. The 1070 will be the card to have though, but I have a sneaky feeling Nvidia are going to drag their heels on that to make people crumble and pay the enormous price for the 1080.

Great though. If anything it's pushed AMD to show Vega this October, which is excellent news

They can piss off with this 'Founder's Edition' nonsense though, charging a premium for a reference card is very cheeky.

It's almost like they know they can get away with anything now, given how AMD effectively don't offer any meaningful competition.

(See also, Intel.)

It does have significantly higher clocks, though. It's not like it's the same.

Also: waiting a month or so for the partner cards to show up and avoid the early adopter tax doesn't feel like the biggest hardship.