Future Warrior wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Want to see a guy review and discuss the Steam Link?
I'm sad Sat has me blocked.
Thanks for sharing this. If you need to chat about it, I'm here for you.
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Nov 18, 2015 13:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Grim... wrote: What's it like, Myp? Some people complain that the sound quality isn't that good. Sorry, missed this. I've only tried Arkham City so far, but the sound seems fine. It did go through some updates though, so maybe that's been fixed? One thing that is weird is that it says some games are not controller-supported but actually are. Arkham City is one of them. |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Nov 18, 2015 13:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Future Warrior wrote: One thing that is weird is that it says some games are not controller-supported but actually are. Arkham City is one of them. I was talking about this one the Steam thread the other day, I've had Big Picture Mode flag up a few games as not being controller compatible but they really are. I suspect a lot of games miss 100% controller compatibility by having things like one-off config pop-ups that need KBAM even though all subsequent launches will be fully controller compatible. The problem is Steam still flags even these cases as 'requires heavy use of keyboard and mouse' even when it's bollocks. The Steam store pages have some flexibility in terms of describing games as having partial controller support but that subtlety gets ditched when in BPM it seems. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Nov 18, 2015 13:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Bamba wrote: Future Warrior wrote: One thing that is weird is that it says some games are not controller-supported but actually are. Arkham City is one of them. I was talking about this one the Steam thread the other day, I've had Big Picture Mode flag up a few games as not being controller compatible but they really are. I suspect a lot of games miss 100% controller compatibility by having things like one-off config pop-ups that need KBAM even though all subsequent launches will be fully controller compatible. The problem is Steam still flags even these cases as 'requires heavy use of keyboard and mouse' even when it's bollocks. The Steam store pages have some flexibility in terms of describing games as having partial controller support but that subtlety gets ditched when in BPM it seems. Yeah, it makes filtering by controller support completely useless. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 19:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Want to see a guy review and discuss the Steam Link? BOOM. I thought it was quite interesting. I won't be getting one but that's cause I've a TV PC which is THA BOMBIZZLE. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 20:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Saturnalian wrote: Want to see a guy review and discuss the Steam Link? I'm sad Sat has me blocked. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 20:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Future Warrior wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Want to see a guy review and discuss the Steam Link? I'm sad Sat has me blocked. Did you post the same video? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 20:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Future Warrior wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Want to see a guy review and discuss the Steam Link? I'm sad Sat has me blocked. Thanks for sharing this. If you need to chat about it, I'm here for you.
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 20:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Saturnalian wrote: Future Warrior wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Want to see a guy review and discuss the Steam Link? I'm sad Sat has me blocked. Did you post the same video? No, just that I was a guy who reviewed and discussed my Steam Link earlier this week. 
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 20:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Yeah, but that guy had interesting things to say about using a PS4 controller, init. I didn't know whether you knew as it wasn't mentioned in your review. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 21:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Wireless PS4 controllers work natively? That's excellent news. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 21:06 ] |
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Y'see? Y'see what I did? I totally, like, PC'ed some hardware, um, news, Steam, link ... stuff. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 21:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Saturnalian wrote: Yeah, but that guy had interesting things to say about using a PS4 controller, init. I didn't know whether you knew as it wasn't mentioned in your review. No, it was useful, I'm just teasing. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Nov 19, 2015 21:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Grim... wrote: Wireless PS4 controllers work natively? That's excellent news. Bluetooth innit. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Nov 20, 2015 13:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
It has occurred to me that if Steam released an in-home streaming app for Android TV, I would be best pleased. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Nov 20, 2015 13:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Had my first problem with it last night. I pressed the Xbox button on the pad to turn on the console, there was network activity and the TV turned on and selected the correct input, but the screen was blank. I had to hard reset it. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Nov 20, 2015 13:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
The cool thing is next time people come round we'll be able to play Gang Beasts on my big telly. 
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Fri Nov 20, 2015 14:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Having watched the video I think I will pass. There's quite a few reasons behind this but mainly the fact that Steam Link is not good in Wifi mode (which tbh I expected). My gaming PC is in the same room as my TV and all it would take for me to directly link it to the TV and make it viable is a 3m HDMI cable and a wireless receiver for my Xbone pad, which even with some rechargeable batteries would work out less. It's a nice try though I have to admit and a very good price
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Sun Nov 22, 2015 16:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Guys, NAS question ! Can I use it as an accessible server? So for example if I went away for the weekend and wanted to move data to and fro would that work? See my step kids shoot video all of the time and have a VLOG. However, we are constantly sending memory cards to and fro for photos and videos etc. Is a NAS accessible from the internet with a login like a web server? and would it offer the full up and down speed of my internet? I've decided to just chuck a 500gb drive in it and be done I really don't need it to be any bigger than that. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Sun Nov 22, 2015 16:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Depending on the type and the software available for it yes you can |
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Sun Nov 22, 2015 17:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
OK so I want one that does that.. RMD! |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Sun Nov 22, 2015 19:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
JohnCoffey wrote: OK so I want one that does that.. RMD! Well I know mine does (https://www.synology.com/en-uk/ ) - although I would think a lot do - normally its off by default (for security) so you cant connect to anything from the 'outside' of your network but you can either run an app to connect or open a port on your firewall. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Fallout NV works really well despite saying it doesn't support a controller. The reason for this is that you need a mouse to click 'Start Game' every single time you load it. So I've plugged a mouse into the Steam Link now. Pretty stupid. |
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Slight change of direction on the NAS perhaps? Last week I was round at mum's and the nextdoor neighbour knocked on the door asking me to help with her computer. However, it also happened to be my old Alienware. I sold it to her five years ago now. I ran MBAM on it and it came back with 1300 threats so I did my best to clear them. As I was doing this she mumbled something about her husband getting her a laptop and so on. I said "Could you give me first refusal on the PC" and she agreed. Last night mum phoned to say that basically I could have it as they'd now got a laptop.. So yeah, given this is such a stunning PC (it's still in sublime condition just very dirty) I would like to try using it as a NAS/Server. IIRC it's got a Phenom 2 940 in it with 4gb DDR2. Here is a shot of it in its hey day.   It's not changed much. I removed most of the Noctua fans and replaced them with cheaper ones but I have an enormous stash of Cougar fans that I want to put in it. This will make it quieter also.. So where do I start? What I want is something I can access on the network via a browser or folder window and something I can access when I am away from the house or to allow my step son to up/download from. So do I want to use Windows for that? or Linux? or something else? I don't need much help on setting it all up because I can read up if I have to, but just a gentle poke in the right direction would be appreciated
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
That looks like the least efficient NAS in the history of computers. The whole point of them is that they take up a very small amount of power and space. If you're going down this path just add more drives to your existing PC. |
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Future Warrior wrote: That looks like the least efficient NAS in the history of computers. The whole point of them is that they take up a very small amount of power and space. If you're going down this path just add more drives to your existing PC. Good point. I am going to underclock/undervolt the CPU massively. Probably run it at around 1.5ghz. Same goes for the ram etc, plus I have a almost new Seasonic platinum PSU. I'm not terribly concerned about the power tbh. |
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| Author: | markg [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
It's the tram! |
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:18 ] |
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markg wrote: It's the tram! it is !  I've got the new 2014 model and my wife has the 2009 model so I was thrilled to be getting back the tram
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
I have not looked at it in forever but http://www.freenas.org/ |
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| Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Nov 23, 2015 14:25 ] |
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zaphod79 wrote: I was just reading about that one Sounds perfect Other sites are recommending to use 8.1 Enterprise because it has something 7 doesn't. I will probably leave 7 on it and try that FreeNAS
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 21:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
'ere, Myp, I've got more questions about Steam Link cause I'm thinking about getting my mate one for Christmas. Ready for the questions - here they are: Y'know that Steam Link thing you've got? Do you have to hook it up to a pooty or can you just plug it in and play? Only reason I ask is, he had a pooty and then he got rid of it and now he's only got one of them shitty macs like what you got. Anyhoo, if he just plugs it in and it works then he's got a Steam account and can play games and shit init or does it not work like that? I thought it needed a pooty and you're just streaming stuff off your pooter to your telly. Anyway, what if you had a mac like what he's got and what youse got, can he plug it into that and let that just link the Steam Link and the Steam or does Apple not like Steam cause they, like, had a bust up over some woman or other? So yeah, about that Steam Link, mac and Steam Link or what then aye? Fanks. And if Bamba wants to chip in and be patronising when he's responding I'd bloody love that too. Fanks guys. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 21:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
The PC is doing all the work, the Stream Link is only displaying content that it sends it. So if his Mac is a wimp then his games are going to run badly. |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
I apologise for being patronising. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Bamba wrote: I apologise for being patronising. That means "talking down to you", Sat. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Bamba wrote: I apologise for being patronising. Nah, I love it really even if it's directed at me. You're an ace poster! Anyway, question, so Steam Link doesn't give a shit about Mac or PC it's all good in the hood? |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Saturnalian wrote: Bamba wrote: I apologise for being patronising. Nah, I love it really even if it's directed at me. You're an ace poster! Anyway, question, so Steam Link doesn't give a shit about Mac or PC it's all good in the hood? Not quite. Though 'soon' apparently: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015- ... h-macs-yet |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Ooh, so it should be alright for Christmas. Sweet. |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Bear in mind Grims point though, it's only as useful as the machine that's streaming to it so it does come down to how good his Mac is spec-wise. |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Oh, also, there's a much smaller selection of games available for the Mac then there is for Windows so he wouldn't be able to play just anything that's on Steam. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:30 ] |
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I reckon his Mac is pretty decent. I've ordered it now for him anyway and should be a pretty awesome gift. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 22:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Bamba wrote: Oh, also, there's a much smaller selection of games available for the Mac then there is for Windows so he wouldn't be able to play just anything that's on Steam. Oh. Shit. Ah well, he can figure it out. EDIT: I see what you mean. It's funny how you miss things like the apple sign on the shopfront. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 0:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Bamba wrote: Oh, also, there's a much smaller selection of games available for the Mac then there is for Windows so he wouldn't be able to play just anything that's on Steam. I wouldn't say much smaller. I've got 375 games in my account and over 200 of those are Mac-compatible. Plus most modern games are cross-platform nowadays - it's rare they just get a Windows release in Steam. |
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| Author: | zaphod79 [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 0:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
And of course you can use bootcamp and boot your mac into windows to play (or stream) the PC only games |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 0:50 ] |
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Future Warrior wrote: Bamba wrote: Oh, also, there's a much smaller selection of games available for the Mac then there is for Windows so he wouldn't be able to play just anything that's on Steam. I wouldn't say much smaller. I've got 375 games in my account and over 200 of those are Mac-compatible. Plus most modern games are cross-platform nowadays - it's rare they just get a Windows release in Steam. That's still a statistically significant percentage of your games that don't work on OSX. That said, I don't know for sure what the count is of Mac compatible Steam games and there doesn't seem to be a way to find out so you could be right. |
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| Author: | TheCookie197 [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 0:54 ] |
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Bamba wrote: That's still a statistically significant percentage of your games that don't work on OSX. That said, I don't know for sure what the count is of Mac compatible Steam games and there doesn't seem to be a way to find out so you could be right. Choosing the "Mac OSX" tag on steam gives just over 5500 results, compared to a total of almost 15,000. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:55 ] |
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This looks amusing http://lg.io/2015/07/05/revised-and-muc ... n-ec2.html Run a gaming rig in the amazon cloud and stream to your device. Works out at around $0.50 an hour. It in action |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:59 ] |
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Storage would be a killer, though - you could pretty much only have one game installed nowadays. |
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| Author: | Trooper [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:05 ] |
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I think that's running a 65gig drive. so you might get away with 2 It's transient, you run it up, install the game, play it, sync the savefiles to dropbox at the end and shut it all down again. It's all SSD and using the fat amazon pipe to download from steam, so it would be interesting to know how long it took to get the game installed. I'm expecting 5-10 minutes max? |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
If that - Steam can serve bastard fast (I get 25MB/s). I'm keep mulling over the idea of making a media server in a datacenter somewhere but the storage costs keep fucking me. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Grim... wrote: If that - Steam can serve bastard fast (I get 25MB/s). I'm keep mulling over the idea of making a media server in a datacenter somewhere but the storage costs keep fucking me. A commuity funded plex server might be workable. Legally very shaky ground, though |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
DavPaz wrote: Grim... wrote: If that - Steam can serve bastard fast (I get 25MB/s). I'm keep mulling over the idea of making a media server in a datacenter somewhere but the storage costs keep fucking me. A commuity funded plex server might be workable. Legally very shaky ground, though Only as shaky as the one sitting next to me, though. And I don't think it would - storage costs for that sort of space (I'm thinking 20TB in RAID-0 to start with) are pretty horrible, and you're going to feel the bandwidth costs, too. |
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