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Author: | JohnCoffey [ Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:16 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
H=22xW=9xD=22". However it slopes.. what im running now is 28x27x13.5. After eight years and pretty much every model ever made I've realised they're not for everyone |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 03, 2015 13:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
OK selling my old machine. Specs. Intel 3970x 6 core 12 thread. Clocks to 4.7ghz daily Corsair H110 Asus RIVE Corsair Dominator 16gb 1866mhz Cooler Master Cosmos 2 Cougar Vortex fans throughout MNPCtech grill in front Aerocool fan controller Enermax Revolution 1250w PSU Corsair Nova series SSD, 60gb X4 in RAID 0 Couple of Xigmatek fans. Do note, the orange panels all come off in about ten seconds. £700 collected, I paid £2000 for this 11 months ago and it's mostly still within warranty. I'm getting a MSI 970 gaming and a 960 soon so I could work something out with a GPU fitted too. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 14:03 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Any one interested in one of these, brand new never opened? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprod ... =GX-259-MS £220 delivered with UPS. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 14:17 ] |
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Bargain at that price, nice cooler too. How come you've ended up with a spare one? |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Jul 13, 2015 14:53 ] |
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Pic of 970 |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:37 ] |
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Beex price on GPU £200 inc. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 22:07 ] |
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Made a pretty bold move today. Sold my Titan Blacks and bought a Fury X for £450. Will be acebest at 4k, and I made a few quid too. Due to get it Friday,will up some pics then |
Author: | Hearthly [ Sun Jul 19, 2015 23:35 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Even one of them is 'about as fast as a 980Ti', how do you expect them to compete with Titan Blacks in SLI? (I appreciate the Fury-X really seems to shine at 4K, but I'm not sure what you're expecting compared to what you're leaving behind.) |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:41 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
One 980ti, believe it or not, is about 10% faster than both of my Titan Blacks put together. No seriously, I shit you not. I knew from synthetic benchmarks that this was the case but thought in games it would fare better. So, yesterday a mate of mine with a 980ti ran some game benchmarks with me and even down clocked his CPU so we were running the same and sure enough, my average in the two Metro games was 10% or worse slower than his. The Fury X is less than 1% slower than the 980ti at 4k, and given that's the resolution I run it was hard to say no at £450 (cheaper than any 980ti). The main aim was to go from two rather hot cards down to one with a water cooler on it, that will be my main boost. So yeah, it's not a ton faster but it is faster, cost me nothing (I sold the two Titans for £500, so I've actually got £50 in my pocket) is cooler, quieter and will use at least 200 watts less power at the wall. I've had AIOs on my GPUs for ages now. I actually bought two adapters and two Corsair H55 coolers for my TBs, but the hoses were not long enough to fit where I needed to fit them (doh). I do have one on Mrs JC's TB and it will not break 47c in Valley after almost two hours. I also had an AIO on my 480 Lightning recently and it too refused to go over 49c. That's incredible. Then of course there's the option to install a second one at a later date, but I'm trying hard to avoid doing that. The issue I had with SLI (and it was small) is that two games I own don't like it. One (Far Cry 4, which I can live without because it's shite) doesn't bother me but the other is Wolfenstein : The old blood and I loved the first one and really wanted to play it but even at low settings it runs like ass at 4k because it simply refuses to run on more than one GPU. I've been on SLI for many years now, it's time for a bit of completely pain free gaming for a while.. Give it time dude. I'm almost certain that when AMD get this launch sorted and get out some review samples the tools to overclock them will be forthcoming. Right now reviewers are literally having to send the card on to one another there is so few of them. Thankfully a good mate of mine bought the card, reviewed it and then got bored with it so he's sold it on to me |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 14:40 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
I fear there may be no helpful answer to this, but here goes: Given the choice, would you rather work on two smallish monitors or one massive (34 inch) monitor? Probably wanting to have 3-4 applications visible at once? Is there anything frustrating about working on one big screen? Never done it with a biggun before fnar fnar. |
Author: | markg [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 14:41 ] |
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What am I doing? |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 14:44 ] |
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markg wrote: What am I doing? You're in a darkened room. You see a lamp in the corner, emitting a greenish glow. Writing. Probably with this kind of setup: - emails open in one application - reference material/research in a browser - word doc to write in - Newsfeed in another window |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 14:50 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Findus Fop wrote: markg wrote: What am I doing? You're in a darkened room. You see a lamp in the corner, emitting a greenish glow. >Go east |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 14:54 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Screen size is the last of your worries. What you want is screen size and resolution. That's basically how you pack in a few apps at once. I wouldn't bother with multiple monitors myself, I've usually always just used one screen. Remember, the monitor is your gateway to the computer and the thing you interact with more than anything else, so always get the best one you can afford. Obviously as usual it all depends on your budget.. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 14:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Saturnalian wrote: Findus Fop wrote: markg wrote: What am I doing? You're in a darkened room. You see a lamp in the corner, emitting a greenish glow. >Go east You've been bummed by a grue. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 15:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Oh to add.. What you really want is a 4k monitor. There are a few small caveats, though. 4k requires some serious balls to shift games around. You're looking at a 980ti or Fury X if you game and like to crank the settings. Obviously if you're not gaming that's of no importance. Things can appear small on a 4k monitor, so 30 inches plus is where you want to be. I have a 28 and some things are a real squint fest. You can adjust Windows to make things look bigger, but that's defeating the purpose of having that sort of resolution in the first place IMO. Another downside is that most 4k monitors are Displayport only, so you need to make sure your GPU has one. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 15:01 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
JohnCoffey wrote: Screen size is the last of your worries. What you want is screen size and resolution. That's basically how you pack in a few apps at once. I wouldn't bother with multiple monitors myself, I've usually always just used one screen. Remember, the monitor is your gateway to the computer and the thing you interact with more than anything else, so always get the best one you can afford. Obviously as usual it all depends on your budget.. cheers dude. Was thinking something like this, which seems like the least I can spend for a screen that size. Chez Bezos |
Author: | markg [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 15:01 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: markg wrote: What am I doing? You're in a darkened room. You see a lamp in the corner, emitting a greenish glow. Writing. Probably with this kind of setup: - emails open in one application - reference material/research in a browser - word doc to write in - Newsfeed in another window I'd rather have two for that sort of stuff, but then again 34" is pretty gigantic for a monitor. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 15:13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Findus Fop wrote: JohnCoffey wrote: Screen size is the last of your worries. What you want is screen size and resolution. That's basically how you pack in a few apps at once. I wouldn't bother with multiple monitors myself, I've usually always just used one screen. Remember, the monitor is your gateway to the computer and the thing you interact with more than anything else, so always get the best one you can afford. Obviously as usual it all depends on your budget.. cheers dude. Was thinking something like this, which seems like the least I can spend for a screen that size. Chez Bezos 2560x1080 is fairly limited on the vertical axis (same number of pixels as a 1920x1080). The first big jump IMO is up to 2560x1440, and those screens are available for a reasonable price. 27 inch is fine for 2560x1440, but as JC says for 4K you want to be looking at 30 inch as a minimum. For the situation you've described though, you may actually be better off with two 24 inchers (or similar) at 1920x1080, if you've got the desk space for it. I use two screens at work, but one screen at home. For a 'productivity' style scenario, I prefer multiple screens. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 15:46 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Yeah I would say you want 1440p at least. If you are not gaming on it (because it is limited to 30hz) then this is a cracking buy. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00I ... 13&sr=8-13 |
Author: | Satsuma [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 15:58 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Findus Fop wrote: markg wrote: What am I doing? You're in a darkened room. You see a lamp in the corner, emitting a greenish glow. >Go east You've been bummed by a grue. >Light cigarette |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 16:02 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Thanks folks. I'd be hoping to do a little gaming every now and then, but probably nothing more taxing than the new Xcom. Hearthly, two of these could work then? ebuyer JC - what's with all the user reviews claiming that Dell bad boy is unusable? Are they just being screaming elmos? |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 16:03 ] |
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Saturnalian wrote: Findus Fop wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Findus Fop wrote: markg wrote: What am I doing? You're in a darkened room. You see a lamp in the corner, emitting a greenish glow. >Go east You've been bummed by a grue. >Light cigarette You've received a text. "Hello big boy, when are you taking me for cocktails (and sausages?)" What do you do? |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 16:06 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
I think they're bitching because it's a 30hz display. If you are OK with 30 FPS then it's absolutely fine, but the ERMAGERD MUST HAVS 144 FPS crowd will shun it. The thing is at 4k even with a Fury X my games run between 40 and 60 FPS (I have a 60hz model but it costs over twice that Dell !) and mostly sits in the high 30s any way. With any lesser GPU set up 30 FPS would be a luxury. But yeah, if you're not into taxing games I would go 4k. Edit. Don't get two 1080p displays they are gimped by the height again. |
Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 16:13 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
JohnCoffey wrote: Edit. Don't get two 1080p displays they are gimped by the height again. Yeah but you get so many horizontal pixels that the height deficit is tolerable. At work I have a 1600x1200 4:3 and a 1280x1024 4:3, I'd much prefer that to my home setup of a single 2560x1440 when it comes to doing work stuff. Two 1920x1080s is a popular choice with my colleagues but I'm a fucking Luddite so I'm sticking with my ancient 4:3s until they break. In FF's case he just has to decide which he'd prefer, but if you look at his summary of what he's looking to run concurrently, I honestly think two screens may be better than one. Plus of course a single 1920x1080 screen is a decent choice for PC games when you're not running a monster PC. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Wed Aug 12, 2015 16:29 ] |
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Problem is 1200p kinda died out when IMO should have been the standard. I guess it was just panel manufacturers being tight, but 1080p was absolute bullshit when we were using 1600x1200 CRTs. It was actually a downgrade, and really annoying to me because I had designed and made around 100 fruit machines at 1200p only to fucking lose the bottoms off of them when I ran them on my 1080p monitor. This is something that haunted me until I got my 4k panel, and then finally I got the rest back. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-P2815Q-2 ... 27f1be58b9 NRG are a very good company and do take care of their customers. I would look into possibly getting two of those and TBH? you would never want for desktop area ever again. I've had a few Alienware bits and bobs from NRG including my Area 51 ALX 2009. FF - do make sure your GPU has two Displayport connectors though ! Edit. Actually the Dell has HDMI too ! |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:56 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Gents, thank you very much for all your advice on this, much appreciated. I am going to get a monitor. Maybe two. I have no idea. Perhaps one of JC's 4k jobbers. Or more likely two 24 inch jobbers, the consensus seems to be on two screens for working. Will see how tight money gets. STAY TUNED! |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:56 ] |
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And now I have to choose a PC. |
Author: | markg [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:56 ] |
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Get two small ones. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:01 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: And now I have to choose a PC. Budget? |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:05 ] |
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JohnCoffey wrote: Findus Fop wrote: And now I have to choose a PC. Budget? Ah don't worry, this is a question I've raised here before, and now I'm procrastinating. Was hoping to do a grand all-in for PC and screen(s). Not after mega performance, just something that can cope with virtualization and running a few other apps at the same time. Have previously been directed to ChillBlast before, but I think Sat's model has been replaced by the new Intel processors so isn't available. And I think your goodself directed me to CCLonline. |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:15 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Ah OK yes I remember now The only concern will be the GPU and what ports it has. So yeah, before you order anything let's check how many monitors/which ports it has. You should be fine though because most GPUs nowadays support Nvidia Surround or AMD Eyefinity |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:25 ] |
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JohnCoffey wrote: Ah OK yes I remember now The only concern will be the GPU and what ports it has. So yeah, before you order anything let's check how many monitors/which ports it has. You should be fine though because most GPUs nowadays support Nvidia Surround or AMD Eyefinity thank you very much sir, very kind of you. |
Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:32 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
FWIW, I use 3 20 inch Apple Cinema Displays (A1081) at work. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:39 ] |
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DavPaz wrote: FWIW, I use 3 20 inch Apple Cinema Displays (A1081) at work. competitively priced! |
Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Aug 13, 2015 13:45 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: DavPaz wrote: FWIW, I use 3 20 inch Apple Cinema Displays (A1081) at work. competitively priced! Well, they were free for me |
Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Fri Aug 14, 2015 0:48 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
I like multiple monitors, if you have a lot of windows open it can be useful 'snapping' them to the edge of your various displays (and easy too). Some monitors can rotate into portrait orientation, which I hear is nice for writing and playing vertical scrolling shmups. My monitor can do this, but I've never really bothered - you might like it though... DavPaz wrote: FWIW, I use 3 20 inch Apple Cinema Displays (A1081) at work. I've got one of those too, it was retired from work. I'm going to sell it. The screen has a really nasty purple tint all over it that I couldn't get rid of through calibration so maybe the backlights have gone a bit funny. |
Author: | TheVision [ Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:02 ] |
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You're right about changing the orientation. It's very useful and fun... This is my old TV. The pound coin is for scale. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:21 ] |
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TheVision, that's ludicrous. Anyone have an opinion on either of these? Seem similarly priced. Would prob look to stick a 2TB SSHD hybrid in them. FOR ASGARD! 100 shots of Stella |
Author: | JohnCoffey [ Fri Aug 14, 2015 12:51 ] |
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May as well go Skylake... |
Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Aug 14, 2015 15:33 ] |
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Depends what the pricing is I suppose. If Skylake systems are the same price then yes of course go for them, but they're only about a 10% boost over Devil's Canyon performance wise so not worth paying any great premium for. Certainly I'd be quite happy with a Devil's Canyon system if the pricing was keen. EDIT - D'oh those two systems are Devil's Canyon and Skylake. The Skylake one is £25 more but gets a 128GB SSD as well as the hard drive, plus you're getting the extra performance and DDR4. No competition then, get the 100 Stellas. |
Author: | Findus Fop [ Fri Aug 14, 2015 15:47 ] |
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Hearthly wrote: Depends what the pricing is I suppose. If Skylake systems are the same price then yes of course go for them, but they're only about a 10% boost over Devil's Canyon performance wise so not worth paying any great premium for. Certainly I'd be quite happy with a Devil's Canyon system if the pricing was keen. EDIT - D'oh those two systems are Devil's Canyon and Skylake. The Skylake one is £25 more but gets a 128GB SSD as well as the hard drive, plus you're getting the extra performance and DDR4. No competition then, get the 100 Stellas. Stellar, I'll go and get lairy. Cheers folks. |
Author: | asfish [ Tue Aug 18, 2015 8:56 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
The mental PC we were using as a test GPU farm is now no longer needed and kicking around the store Its got 16 physical CPU's, 64GB of Ram and 4X GTX Titans in it Was thinking of using it home until there is a work use for it (which is doubtful) then I just thought about the cost of running the bloody thing and how little use I would get out of 4 cards Using it for folding at the moment. |
Author: | Grim... [ Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:03 ] |
Post subject: | Re: PC gaming hardware thread. |
Take it home and take three cards out (and send one to me)? Do some Bitcoin mining? |
Author: | asfish [ Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:05 ] |
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Grim... wrote: Take it home and take three cards out (and send one to me)? Do some Bitcoin mining? I would be concerned about how long the cards would last now, they were hammered 24\7 for 9 months which is not really what they are designed to do. The cards we got with the "enterprise" solution were 5K each as they are built to do this |
Author: | Grim... [ Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:08 ] |
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Dedicated folding or mining rigs run the cards hot constantly, so they shouldn't break. What were you using the rig for in the first place? |
Author: | Mr Dave [ Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:11 ] |
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Grim... wrote: Dedicated folding or mining rigs run the cards hot constantly, so they shouldn't break. What were you using the rig for in the first place? Oil mining. |
Author: | KovacsC [ Tue Aug 18, 2015 9:18 ] |
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Windows 10 does not support my radeon HD 48XX, what is a good, cheap replacement? |
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