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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:59 
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Ramsea wrote:
I've only skim read the above so apologies if this is totally irrelevant, but could the overclocked cpu be causing the bsod? My computer started blue screening a couple of years ago but once I reverted the cpu back to stock it has worked fine since.


Next time you get a BSOD of death go here on your PC C:\Windows\Minidump

You should have a file with a .dmp extension. Get the one with the latest date and post it here

I can have a look at it in the debugging tools and maybe give you a clue as to what the issue is

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CPU-Z will give you the same information from within Windows.

I think it told him he has 99 problems but a RAM issue ain't one.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Thu Feb 26, 2015 21:56 
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Ramsea wrote:
I've only skim read the above so apologies if this is totally irrelevant, but could the overclocked cpu be causing the bsod? My computer started blue screening a couple of years ago but once I reverted the cpu back to stock it has worked fine since.


Next time you get a BSOD of death go here on your PC C:\Windows\Minidump

You should have a file with a .dmp extension. Get the one with the latest date and post it here

I can have a look at it in the debugging tools and maybe give you a clue as to what the issue is

Will also need to know what OS you are running and if its 32 or 64 bit

ok cheers mate, I will bear that in mind.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
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I've been having reet trouble with my laptop today. The sodding trackpad locks up; doesn't work; judders; stops altogether and so on.

I've opened the tasks manager and the CPU is around the 80%-100%.

Wanna pic?

POW!

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So what do we think is going on here techno nerds? It's still within warranty if that matters a dime. Shall I smash it over someone's head in PC World?


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Sort by CPU usage and see what's at the top.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 17:45 
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I'd only got open Outlook, Word and the bloody file manager. Chrome as well, sometimes.

Fucking thing.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 17:47 
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Some fragmenter thing?

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Looks that way - assuming the laptop's being unresponsive while that screenshot was taken.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-d ... tation-ssd

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 18:11 
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Boom! I'll turn that shit off then.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 17:06 
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Could be, could be. I might test that, after checking with them.

I had another BSOD just now in the middle of Homeworld, got the message down:

'STOP 0x00000124
Uncorrectable hardware error.'

Bah.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 17:50 
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Have you gone through the minidump stuff suggested earlier in the thread Pete?

Are there any clues in the event log?

Quite bad luck you've had here really, this sort of carry on is fairly rare these days :(

You could just RMA the PC at this point and let Overclockers sort it out.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:05 
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So I bought 16gb of super whizzy memory this weekend, wiped my gaming pc and rebuilt it, so all the crap has gone and all sleek and lovely. Ready to play some kick ass games...

... spent most of yesterday playing Hearthstone on it :facepalm:


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 13:02 
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WoW and Hearthstone are the primary reasons I've not upgraded my PC in yonks, although GTA5 may tip me over into new computer territory, depending on how it runs on my existing setup.

I don't need much encouragement to spunk cash on shiny new PC stuff, but when WoW and Hearthstone are accounting for 95%+ of my gaming, even I baulk at dropping £250 on a new graphics card or a few hundred quid on a new mobo/CPU/RAM, or maybe a grand or more on a whole new PC.

Mrs Hearthly's new PC has been a bit of an eye-opener as well, it's very much what you'd call 'midrange', and yet it absolutely kicks the shit out of everything I've chucked at it at 1080p with all the pretties turned on whilst comfortably maintaining 60FPS (and remaining whisper quiet at all times).

The thing is though, XBox One and PS4 just haven't moved things on in terms of the power on tap, being comfortably outgunned by even a modest gaming PC. Their CPUs in particular are turning out to be very weak (with those 8 horrible AMD cores), and as they're effectively PCs stuffed into little boxes, it stands to reason that you're not going to need much of a mega-PC to run whatever game you want to at very nice settings.

GTA5 will be one to watch though, I'm awaiting that one with keen interest.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 15:59 
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WoW and Hearthstone are the primary reasons I've not upgraded my PC in yonks, although GTA5 may tip me over into new computer territory, depending on how it runs on my existing setup.

I don't need much encouragement to spunk cash on shiny new PC stuff, but when WoW and Hearthstone are accounting for 95%+ of my gaming, even I baulk at dropping £250 on a new graphics card or a few hundred quid on a new mobo/CPU/RAM, or maybe a grand or more on a whole new PC.

Mrs Hearthly's new PC has been a bit of an eye-opener as well, it's very much what you'd call 'midrange', and yet it absolutely kicks the shit out of everything I've chucked at it at 1080p with all the pretties turned on whilst comfortably maintaining 60FPS (and remaining whisper quiet at all times).

The thing is though, XBox One and PS4 just haven't moved things on in terms of the power on tap, being comfortably outgunned by even a modest gaming PC. Their CPUs in particular are turning out to be very weak (with those 8 horrible AMD cores), and as they're effectively PCs stuffed into little boxes, it stands to reason that you're not going to need much of a mega-PC to run whatever game you want to at very nice settings.

GTA5 will be one to watch though, I'm awaiting that one with keen interest.


Dear god stop beating the PC v console drum. No one cares.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 16:40 
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Dear god stop beating the PC v console drum. No one cares.


One sentence in a single post, and must be the first time I've posted anything on the subject in months, plus it was contextual, and in a thread called 'PC gaming hardware thread'.

Your definition of 'beating the drum' is a fairly unusual one.


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Dear god stop beating the PC v console drum. No one cares.


One sentence in a single post, and must be the first time I've posted anything on the subject in months, plus it was contextual, and in a thread called 'PC gaming hardware thread'.

Your definition of 'beating the drum' is a fairly unusual one.

Yup, but still one one cares. :)

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 17:31 
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Yup, but still one one cares. :)


Well I think it's quite interesting, so there :p


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 18:17 
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I've bitten the bullet and ordered a GTX960, which seems to be the right card for my 1080P projector. It's twice the speed of my HD6970 according to the stats, so it should make a noticeable difference and mean I don't need to faff around with video settings as I currently do to get stuff smooth :)


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 19:29 
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I've bitten the bullet and ordered a GTX960, which seems to be the right card for my 1080P projector. It's twice the speed of my HD6970 according to the stats, so it should make a noticeable difference and mean I don't need to faff around with video settings as I currently do to get stuff smooth :)


It's a pretty remarkable card TBH, which variant did you go for?

By all accounts it delivers the same performance as a GTX680, which was Nvidia's proper high end single GPU card two generations ago. (That seems about right to me, as it outperforms my GTX670 by a consistent 10-15%.)

The other amazing thing about the 960 is the noise, or rather, the almost total lack of it.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 20:14 
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Trooper wrote:
I've bitten the bullet and ordered a GTX960, which seems to be the right card for my 1080P projector. It's twice the speed of my HD6970 according to the stats, so it should make a noticeable difference and mean I don't need to faff around with video settings as I currently do to get stuff smooth :)


It's a pretty remarkable card TBH, which variant did you go for?


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA ... CX_Cooler/

This one. It was £175. Couldn't justify the extra £100 for the 970, especially as i'm going to be using it on a 1080P display.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_960_SSC_ACX_Cooler/

This one. It was £175. Couldn't justify the extra £100 for the 970, especially as i'm going to be using it on a 1080P display.


Nice enough :) Quality cooler on those too, should be super-quiet even under high load.

The 970 is definitely overkill for 1080p IMO, having seen the 960 kick all sorts of ass in Mrs Hearthly's PC.


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Dear god stop beating the PC v console drum. No one cares.


One sentence in a single post, and must be the first time I've posted anything on the subject in months, plus it was contextual, and in a thread called 'PC gaming hardware thread'.

Your definition of 'beating the drum' is a fairly unusual one.

Yup, but still one one cares. :)

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 22:18 
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How do I find out what specs my computer are?
Can I press a button or shall I open it up and read the insides?


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How do I find out what specs my computer are?
Can I press a button or shall I open it up and read the insides?


What os are you?

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Windows 8.1 all the way, baby! Yeeeaaah.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 23:36 
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So I've got:

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@ 3.40GHz
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x64-based processor

Can I play GTAV on MAXED OUT ULTRA settings?
Can I play Battlefield 4 on ULTRA MAX settings?
Can I play Battlefield Hard-on Edition on ULTRA ULTRA MAXIMUM settings?
Will Far Cry 4 look better on my PS4 or my PC?
What about Crysis 1 to 3?
If I can't go ULTRA MAXED OUT then what am I going to get with these big hitter games (if anything)?
And should I even bother or will everything grind to a halt?
Is it white and gold or black and white?


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:18 
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I'm no expert but I believe this site should tell you what will run. Whether it's as specific as what settings you'll be able to use, I'm not sure but it's worth a look.

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:50 
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Could be, could be. I might test that, after checking with them.

I had another BSOD just now in the middle of Homeworld, got the message down:

'STOP 0x00000124
Uncorrectable hardware error.'

Bah.


Found some info on this one

"This is usually heat related, defective hardware, memory or even processor though it is
"possible" that it is driver related (rare). Remove ALL power and reseat all cards, memory
and cables (on both ends) - actually remove and replace - do not just snug. Make sure
the system has adequate ventilation - add a small fan blowing into intakes"

Not sure if this is a laptop or PC? If a laptop check there is no dust build up on all the vents, you can blow the crap away with compressed air that you could get at PC World (or cheaper online)

If its a PC check everything is seated ok and that the fans all run when the PC is turned on.

Also check that air can get in and out of the system (its not tight against a wall etc on the fan side)


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Phone them up; say "come and collect it and bring me one that works with you. This not the sort of service I would expect."

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Grim... wrote:
Wrong.

You care about PC vs console comparisons? Why?

This is what every single Digital Foundry article to date should have concluded:

"A £550 gaming PC has greater image fidelity than a £275 games console. You can't build a gaming PC for £275. In any event, approximately zero people make the decision between gaming PC and console based on raw performance, because many other factors such as perceived ease-of-use and what platform your friends favour dominate."

If there were any new news that move beyond this conclusion I could see the point in discussing it. But there isn't, and there isn't likely to be either.


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Wrong.

You care about PC vs console comparisons? Why?

Because I have both, and I think the "jump" between the current-gen consoles and the last gen is far less than the previous one, and because PCs are (slowly) starting to claw their way into the living room.

Unfortunately every time anyone dares talk about it people like Kov start jumping up and down, like we were sat around his dining table slagging off his mum.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
approximately zero people make the decision between gaming PC and console based on raw performance, because many other factors such as perceived ease-of-use and what platform your friends favour dominate.


While this is mostly true I doubt it's entirely and always the case. My current setup has my PS4 and PC hooked up to the TV and surround sound in the living room so if there was a game I was interested in that was available on both platforms and would look better on my PC then I'd absolutely buy it for that. Admittedly this is less of a thing for me right now because the spec of my PC is well behind the curve but at some point I'll upgrade it and then I'll really be interested in what is the best way to play a particular game.


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Wrong.

You care about PC vs console comparisons? Why?

Because I have both, and I think the "jump" between the current-gen consoles and the last gen is far less than the previous one, and because PCs are (slowly) starting to claw their way into the living room.

Unfortunately every time anyone dares talk about it people like Kov start jumping up and down, like we were sat around his dining table slagging off his mum.

No, I don't think it's when "anyone" mentions it. It's just when people who have been unspeakably tedious about the whole thing in the past start up then there's a tendency to think "oh for fucks sake, he's off again"


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Nice. What a lovely place this is.

It would be lovely if every post anyone makes could be taken in isolation and discussed on its own merits, but unfortunately you make a rod for your own back.

This affects everyone here!

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Because I have both,
You only have any last-gen consoles though.

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and I think the "jump" between the current-gen consoles and the last gen is far less than the previous one
I think you are wrong. I think the baseline resolution going from sub-720p to almost universally 1080p is a big "jump."

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and because PCs are (slowly) starting to claw their way into the living room.
Are they? Where? I saw a lot of noise about Steamboxes eighteen months ago, but they're still nowhere to be found. When (...if?) they do arrive, I have serious concerns about the viability of SteamOS, and also the suitability of Windows for the living room. Meanwhile a few manufacturers are shipping some SFF gaming PCs, but then again, there always were a few of those around. And the actually console-sized ones often sacrifice the modularity and upgradability of normal PCs, because fitting normal GPUs and air cooling in tiny cases is hard.

You also haven't addressed my actual point, which is: this stuff isn't changing. There's nothing new to discuss. Any conversation about it is inherently a retread of old ground.


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I've become way more interested in the techy side of PC gaming since I've had a PC (even if it's on a very rudimentary level).

Moreover, since this comment was in a thread about PC HARDWARE I don't think there's any reason to be a dick when someone talks about PC HARDWARE in a PC HARDWARE thread.


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Moreover, since this comment was in a thread about PC HARDWARE I don't think there's any reason to be a dick when someone talks about PC HARDWARE in a PC HARDWARE thread.

It's mainly as people are tired of it. Some people got so tired of it they decided to stop coming here so it's perhaps a bit of a touchy subject.


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Because I have both,
You only have any last-gen consoles though.

They still work, you know.

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and I think the "jump" between the current-gen consoles and the last gen is far less than the previous one
I think you are wrong. I think the baseline resolution going from sub-720p to almost universally 1080p is a big "jump."

That's nice. We should be allowed to discuss it, or something.

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and because PCs are (slowly) starting to claw their way into the living room.
Are they? Where?

My house, your house*, Babma's house?

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You also haven't addressed my actual point, which is: this stuff isn't changing. There's nothing new to discuss. Any conversation about it is inherently a retread of old ground.

That's not the case at all, unless the old ground you're referring to is Bamba including the word "PC" in his post (in a thread called "PC gaming hardware", let's remind ourselves), causing certain people to jump up and down about how he should shut up.

* or was that your old house?

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Moreover, since this comment was in a thread about PC HARDWARE I don't think there's any reason to be a dick when someone talks about PC HARDWARE in a PC HARDWARE thread.

It's mainly as people are tired of it. Some people got so tired of it they decided to stop coming here so it's perhaps a bit of a touchy subject.

Or perhaps high fives should be handed out.

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I thought we had these PC threads to

a) isolate that issue;
b) talk about PC stuff when people wanted to cause PC stuff is pretty interesting;
c) recognise that PC gaming is massive these days.


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Or perhaps high fives should be handed out.

You'll be high-fiving yourself in not too long. ?:|

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c) recognise that PC gaming is massive these days.

I seem to recall that mainstream PC gaming is reducing, but indie stuff and things like Early Access are getting more and more popular.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:48 
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Or perhaps high fives should be handed out.

You'll be high-fiving yourself in not too long. ?:|

I do constantly impress myself.

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:52 
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Sorry chaps, i should not have said anything

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
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Sorry chaps, i should not have said anything

You're doing Beex wrong. Never back down, never apologise!

Now you're being silenced by bullies!

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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:58 
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Well, NervousPete and Hearthly's posts in this thread the past few days have inspired me to sort out my shitty memory sticks which have been crashing out my gaming pc for a while, and told me about the GTX960, which I didn't know very much about and meant i've now upgraded.

So, i'm glad the conversation happened.


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 Post subject: Re: PC gaming hardware thread.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:00 
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Now you're being silenced by bullies!

You're the bullies, d'uh.

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