Be Excellent To Each Other

And, you know, party on. Dude.

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:15 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69551
Location: Your Mum
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... onnections

Quote:
Lord Mandelson, the business secretary, warned internet users today that the days of "consequence-free" illegal filesharing are over as he unveiled the government's plan for cracking down on online piracy.

Mandelson, speaking at the government's digital creative industries conference, C&binet, confirmed that the internet connections of persistent offenders could be blocked - but only as a last resort from the summer of 2011.

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:19 
User avatar
INFINITE POWAH

Joined: 1st Apr, 2008
Posts: 30498
It could be worse, they could be going to prison for theft.

_________________
http://www.thehomeofawesome.com/
Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:19 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
And the unlikely ally of Piracy? GCHQ - because cracking down on piracy means an increase in use of products that encrypt, which means that spying is harder.

You couldn't make it up.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:20 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Mr Chris wrote:
I could be worse, they could be going to prison for theft violation of copyright.


;)

Also, C&binet? WTF?

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:20 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 32619
I stand by what I said on Twitter
Quote:
Mandelson's War On Filesharing will be as successful as the War On Drugs and War On Terror because blacknets don't exist.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:21 
User avatar
INFINITE POWAH

Joined: 1st Apr, 2008
Posts: 30498
Craster wrote:
Mr Chris wrote:
I could be worse, they could be going to prison for theft violation of copyright.


;)


PIRACY IS THEFT. YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR, WOULD YOU?

Quote:
Also, C&binet? WTF?


I did wonder about that.

_________________
http://www.thehomeofawesome.com/
Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:22 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Mr Chris wrote:
PRIACY IS THEFT.


Bloody Kalmar and his hippy-car friends.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:30 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48675
Location: Cheshire
Chill, Winston


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:34 
User avatar

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 925
Quote:
The pay-off for tough penalties against persistent file-sharers would be a more relaxed copyright regime, Mr Mandelson said.

The details of it would need to be hammered out at European level but it would take account of the use of copyright material "at home and between friends", he said.

It would mean that, for example, someone who has bought a CD would be able to copy it to their iPod or share it with family members without acting unlawfully.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8328820.stm

So darknets will be legal then?

Or putting a link to a MP3 download on my Facebook page?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:43 
User avatar
Sitting balls-back folder

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 10090
This has already been mentioned in B&B, and I'm not paying £50 copying my post over. Thread merge?

Edit: Though, um, it is literally my response to zaphod, which seems a waste of moderatorial effort.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:51 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48675
Location: Cheshire
Check this:

Lord M: We've identified you downloading The Bangle's Greatest Hits through your ISP. Although I acknowledge your obviously classy taste in music, it is still a bad thing hence you must be punished.

DO YOU ANSWER:

1) Yes, you got me - Admit it and take it like Mr French

2) Deny it and say you've got a secure wireless connection, it's only me that can get in and out of it. - You've fucked yourself here, as if it wasn't you, and could only have been you, was it fucking Aslan?

3) Open WiFi, matey, could have been anyone. - I'm sure the HDD will be at the bottom of a canal by now, in a binbag with a CO2 cartridge attached to a balloon read for retrieval once the heat is off.

I'd do #3 every time.

Also, open WiFi connections are most citizenlike and should be encouraged.

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:53 
User avatar
Unpossible!

Joined: 27th Jun, 2008
Posts: 38478
MaliA wrote:
Also, open WiFi connections are most citizenlike and should be encouraged.

Not in my neighbourhood! I shudder to imagine what the scrotes round here would schlep through my router.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:54 
SupaMod
User avatar
Est. 1978

Joined: 27th Mar, 2008
Posts: 69551
Location: Your Mum
Hasn't precedent been set for #3? Ie. Tough shit - your network, your problem?

_________________
Grim... wrote:
I wish Craster had left some girls for the rest of us.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:56 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48675
Location: Cheshire
MrDavPaz wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Also, open WiFi connections are most citizenlike and should be encouraged.

Not in my neighbourhood! I shudder to imagine what the scrotes round hear would schlep through my router.


66.54.44.230
94.102.152.106
92.52.89.31

most likely.

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:56 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48675
Location: Cheshire
Grim... wrote:
Hasn't precedent been set for #3? Ie. Tough shit - your network, your problem?


Dunno. Not really my area, IT security, and I only gave it about 30 seconds thought.

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:59 
User avatar
Unpossible!

Joined: 27th Jun, 2008
Posts: 38478
MaliA wrote:
92.52.89.31

most likely.

Like it. Good work fella.
Quote:
94.102.152.106

That one... not where I live ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 13:59 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 32619
Grim... wrote:
Hasn't precedent been set for #3? Ie. Tough shit - your network, your problem?
My O2 router shipped with an unsecure default admin password that could be dictionary attacked in seconds. Dunno where that would stand as a defence, as anyone breaking into the router wouldn't be doing so with my permission, either implicit (open security) or explicit (give them the password).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:00 
User avatar
Peculiar, yet lovely

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 7046
Quote:
The pay-off for tough penalties against persistent file-sharers would be a more relaxed copyright regime, Mr Mandelson said


"Furthermore, I am definitely not a lying, sleazy cock." He added.

What a load of shit. Are we going to implement tougher penalties for being foreign, and then say that pay-off will be a more relaxed police regime, then? Gah, screw this, lunchtime.

_________________
Lonely as a Mushroom Cloud


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:02 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48675
Location: Cheshire
MrDavPaz wrote:
MaliA wrote:
92.52.89.31

most likely.

Like it. Good work fella.
Quote:
94.102.152.106

That one... not where I live ;)


It's probably the most technically complicated joke I've ever done, here.

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:04 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 1143
Location: Manchester, UK
Mandy is wasting his time with all this shite, he's just proving himself to be utterly out of touch with the public once again. This legislature won't come into force for another 2 years, by which time I'm fairly certain that Spotify (or Google or Facebook) will have managed to build their free/pay streaming services to a point where 95% of the public who pirated before won't bother anymore as they are only interested in listening to popular songs available via these services. The musos who pirate obscure and underground music (including myself) will not have to worry about this legislature as this music won't be BPI affiliated so they have no control over any copyright infringements. Personally, I've already stopped pirating BPI affiliated music in favour of just bookmarking it on Spotify. Innovative business models were always going to be the solution for the music industry, not bullshit like this out-of-touch, waste-of-time legislative rubbish.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:05 
User avatar
Gogmagog

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 48675
Location: Cheshire
pupil wrote:
Innovative business models were always going to be the solution for the music industry, not bullshit like this out-of-touch, waste-of-time legislative rubbish.


See, also, foxhunting ban, the theft act, dangerous dogs act.

_________________
Mr Chris wrote:
MaliA isn't just the best thing on the internet - he's the best thing ever.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:06 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 32619
Spotify isn't going to work as a business model though Pupil. It doesn't make any money and can only exist because the labels cut it a subsidised pricing deal because they are shit-scared of iTunes.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 14:16 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 1143
Location: Manchester, UK
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Spotify isn't going to work as a business model though Pupil. It doesn't make any money and can only exist because the labels cut it a subsidised pricing deal because they are shit-scared of iTunes.


I don't really see why not, the fact that it exists shows in some way it is succeeding. The consumer will slowly be moving away form physical format purchasing towards streaming services, whether that is film, tv or music. Now in Spotify you can cache an album onto your PC/iPhone/DAP (if you pay the 10 quid a month subscription) so you can listen to it "off-line", so why "purchase" the album via HMV or iTunes or wherever else? The industry will have to move away from making mass profits on music sales towards a more diverse business model. I agree Spotify (in its current incarnation) isn't the answer, but it is a step in the direction of the solution.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:15 
User avatar
INFINITE POWAH

Joined: 1st Apr, 2008
Posts: 30498
Easy answer here. If you're thinking about sharing files, try not sharing files.

_________________
http://www.thehomeofawesome.com/
Eagles soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:19 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Whatever, dice.

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:35 
User avatar
Unpossible!

Joined: 27th Jun, 2008
Posts: 38478
The trick is, download, but don't seed. Bit of a dice move though


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:36 
User avatar

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 32619
The only solution I see is the Beex Darknet Splinter Internet.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:46 
User avatar
Comfortably Dumb

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 12034
Location: Sunny Stoke
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The only solution I see is the Beex Darknet Splinter Internet.


Need a catchier name. BXSplinternet?

_________________
Consolemad | Under Logic
Curse, the day is long
Realise you don't belong


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:52 
User avatar

Joined: 31st Mar, 2008
Posts: 925
devilman wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
The only solution I see is the Beex Darknet Splinter Internet.


Need a catchier name. BXSplinternet?


FlounceNet?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:54 
User avatar
Time Out for Fun

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 5039
Location: South Shields
nothingshadygoingonherenet.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:55 
User avatar
Honey Boo Boo

Joined: 28th Mar, 2008
Posts: 12328
Location: Tronna, Canandada
Bluecup wrote:
Quote:
The details of it would need to be hammered out at European level but it would take account of the use of copyright material "at home and between friends", he said.

It would mean that, for example, someone who has bought a CD would be able to copy it to their iPod or share it with family members without acting unlawfully.


Well, six degress of seperation, then. I'm downloading from my friend's mother's cousin's sister's brother.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 15:58 
User avatar
EvilTrousers

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 3073
MetalAngel wrote:
Bluecup wrote:
Quote:
The details of it would need to be hammered out at European level but it would take account of the use of copyright material "at home and between friends", he said.

It would mean that, for example, someone who has bought a CD would be able to copy it to their iPod or share it with family members without acting unlawfully.


Well, six degress of seperation, then. I'm downloading from my friend's mother's cousin's sister's brother.


Oh that's you is it? Get orf moi baaandwidth.

_________________
Everyone but Zardoz is better than me at videogames.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 16:04 
User avatar
Honey Boo Boo

Joined: 28th Mar, 2008
Posts: 12328
Location: Tronna, Canandada
Nothing will stand between me and your surprisingly large collection of Tiny Tim mp3s! NOTHING!

Oh, you've turned off your computer. *shakes fist*


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 14:46 
8-Bit Champion
User avatar
Two heads are better than one

Joined: 16th Apr, 2008
Posts: 14495
Beeb story about "File sharers" spend more money than average actually buying music n stuff :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8337887.stm


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 14:49 
SupaMod
User avatar
Commander-in-Cheese

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 49232
Quote:
"While surveys asking people about unlawful behaviour should be treated with caution, it's encouraging that the findings signal that the three-pronged approach set out by the Government this week - a mix of education, enforcement and attractive new commercial deals - provides the best way forward for industry and consumers."


Good lord. The findings don't actually signal that in any way, shape, or form, do they you mealy-mouthed little shit?

_________________
GoddessJasmine wrote:
Drunk, pulled Craster's pork, waiting for brdyime story,reading nuts. Xz


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 15:05 
8-Bit Champion
User avatar
Two heads are better than one

Joined: 16th Apr, 2008
Posts: 14495
The register have a nice take on this as well where they basically say that the way the music industry has ignored legitimate P2P stuff in the past has cost them

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/01 ... ic_survey/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 15:39 
User avatar
Excellently Membered

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 1268
Location: Behind you!
Shiittt! I'm just going to have to travel around with some blank tapes everywhere, just in case a friend has something I'd like a copy of. That's a bit inconvenient.


Oh wait I've got a 160GB* memory stick in my pocket.

* well something like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 16:49 
User avatar
Excellently Membered

Joined: 30th Mar, 2008
Posts: 1268
Location: Behind you!
zaphod79 wrote:
The register have a nice take on this as well where they basically say that the way the music industry has ignored legitimate P2P stuff in the past has cost them

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/01 ... ic_survey/



I like this. It's say if you are into music, you'll get your hands on it anyway you can, even by PAYING for it. Saying that the "Record Companies" are pointing the evil P2P finger and law against their most loyal customers... potentially making it worse as people flick them the V and downloading more.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Fuck you, Mandy
PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 13:04 
8-Bit Champion
User avatar
Two heads are better than one

Joined: 16th Apr, 2008
Posts: 14495
EU offers hope to file-sharers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8344174.stm

Quote:
Internet users throughout Europe accused of illegal file-sharing are to receive more protection from being cut off by their service provider.

The European Parliament and Council is due to make a decision on its Telecoms Reform Package in late November.

The package will entitle users in all 27 EU states to be put through a "fair and impartial procedure" before being disconnected.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Columbo and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search within this thread:
You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
Want to help out with the hosting / advertising costs? That's very nice of you.
Are you on a mobile phone? Try http://beex.co.uk/m/
RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC. RIP, Dimmers.

Powered by a very Grim... version of phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.