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Author:  gospvg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:16 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
Can I just blanket this question with three names? Owen Wilson. Nicholas Cage. Shane Ritchie.


God I hate Owen Wilson & that other stupid yank actor in Night at the Museum?

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:22 ]
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gospvg wrote:
TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English. His copic caperings ruined what could have been one of the great spy films of all time.

Kids loved that movie & I thought Rowan was ok as the bungling spy.

He was no James Bond though was he?

Also, Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man... not even a proper retard ffs.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:23 ]
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Rodafowa wrote:
The definitive Canoe Reeves one is Don John in Much Ado About Nothing. Staggeringly terrible casting.

:this:

Any time anyone mentions badly cast roles, that is the one that sticks in my mind. I have never, ever seen an actor so under-prepared and incapable of taking on a classic role. It is so, so terrible.

Author:  gospvg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:25 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
gospvg wrote:
TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English. His copic caperings ruined what could have been one of the great spy films of all time.

Kids loved that movie & I thought Rowan was ok as the bungling spy.

He was no James Bond though was he?


But I think that was the idea they wanted a silly character who better than the face of Mr Bean

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:27 ]
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Nicole Kidman in every film she's ever made, because she can't act, and surely casting someone who can't act in a film is a form of miscasting.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:28 ]
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But he's always been that character. Since the Barclaycard days.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:29 ]
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Gospvg was badly miscast in Big Stampy Boots.

Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:29 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
In fact all go and buy Curse of Fenric now. Probably only a fiver on Amazon, it's awesome:

Here you go, best 6 quid you'll spend this week:


I remember that, it was terrifying. Me and my little sister were especially frightened when the two girls go down into misty bay, against their mother's wishes. With unhilarious consequences. I must have been eight when I saw that.

Gospvg - at the risk of making a mortal enemy, I say Owen Wilson is great. Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films? He's brilliant in them, co-writes 'em too. He's a damn good script writer too. Owen as Ned in Life Aquatic delivers a genuinely touching, endearing performance. NED! I agree the rom-coms he's also in are shocking, but they can be safely avoided. Hope he's feeling better after that old suicide attempt, and that he makes more excellence.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:30 ]
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John Hannah in everything he's been in.

Just me?

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:31 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films?


Yes I have. It made me want to push his drawling lazy tongue down the back of his throat with my fist.

Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Nicole Kidman in every film she's ever made, because she can't act, and surely casting someone who can't act in a film is a form of miscasting.


Good lord, :this: times infinity.

How she ever managed to fool people into thinking she's a good actress, I have no idea. She's so criminally insincere in every film I've seen her. Her acting is paper thin. She also has a distractingly large, palid forehead.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
He's brilliant in them, co-writes 'em too. He's a damn good script writer too. Owen as Ned in Life Aquatic delivers a genuinely touching, endearing performance.


Agreed, this gets him a lot of points against his subsequent travesties of acting.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
In fact all go and buy Curse of Fenric now. Probably only a fiver on Amazon, it's awesome:

Here you go, best 6 quid you'll spend this week:


I remember that, it was terrifying. Me and my little sister were especially frightened when the two girls go down into misty bay, against their mother's wishes. With unhilarious consequences. I must have been eight when I saw that.


All shot at Lulworth Cove in Dorset. Handily its only a 10 minute drive from Tyneham so you can do both in one day.

Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
AngryPete wrote:
Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films?


Yes I have. It made me want to push his drawling lazy tongue down the back of his throat with my fist.


You sir, are King Wrong.

Author:  kalmar [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:33 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
How she ever managed to fool people into thinking she's a good actress, I have no idea.


Scientology?

Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:33 ]
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You're all doing it wrong, it isn't just a "name a shit actor" thread. If this was my thread I'd be most unhappy by now, most unhappy >:|

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:35 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
AngryPete wrote:
Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films?


Yes I have. It made me want to push his drawling lazy tongue down the back of his throat with my fist.


You sir, are King Wrong.


I'm sure he's a very nice person. It wouldn't be something I'd do with malice, more a grim sense of determination. Well, not even that, it'd be dispassionate. And slow.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:36 ]
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markg wrote:
You're all doing it wrong, it isn't just a "name a shit actor" thread. If this was my thread I'd be most unhappy by now, most unhappy >:|

Yeah, I'm doing better than most of you and I've just been taking the piss.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:37 ]
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I frequently fireball city guards instead of turning invisible to sneak past them in Oblivion.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:37 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Nicole Kidman in every film she's ever made, because she can't act, and surely casting someone who can't act in a film is a form of miscasting.

Then she's not a good actress.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:38 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
I frequently fireball city guards instead of turning invisible to sneak past them in Oblivion.


I always use my area fire spell in Fable 2 when trying to get out of the menu.

Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:39 ]
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I love Tim Roth, but that American accent in Reservoir Dogs? Brrrr.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:39 ]
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She was ok in The Others.

At least I think she was, I liked the film.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:40 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
She was ok in The Others.

At least I think she was, I liked the film.


The first assumption to make of any ghost related film is: the lead character is really a ghost. It's a surprise when they're not.

Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:40 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
I frequently fireball city guards instead of turning invisible to sneak past them in Oblivion.


:DD

Sorry, markg!

Anyway, a perfectly cast actress was the utterly wonderful Tilda Swinton as The White Witch in The Lion, etc. Curiously, her exact opposite, Aslan, was badly cast with Liam Neeson failing to add the required depth, weight and strangeness to the voice. They really needed to think harder and use an unknown voice there, Liam - although a good actor - was too warm and human to work really as a lion-shaped deity.

Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:41 ]
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Better.

Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:48 ]
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markg wrote:
Better.


Oh Christ, wait, thought of one of the all-time miscasts - Gene Hackman as the Polish commander in A Bridge too Far. "Wow! We've got all these stars! Er, lets cram a few more in. Don't fuss about matching them up to a part..."

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:49 ]
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John Travolta just didn't sit right with me in Pulp Fiction to be honest.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:50 ]
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Oh, I've thought of some more. Al Pacino and Michelle Pfeiffer in Frankie and Johnny.
Ewan McGregor in Down With Love and great movie that it is, he's really clunky in Moulin Rouge as well, though not film wrecking.
Maggie Gyllenhall in The Dark Knight
Claire Danes in Stardust - and not necessarily because she can't act or is unattractive, just my idea of a fallen star would not be her, at all.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:53 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
John Travolta just didn't sit right with me in Pulp Fiction to be honest.


What!!

Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:54 ]
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Also: I'm not sure of Orloomo Bland is a good enough actor to qualify, but if he is then I'd put Kingdom Of Heaven forward for your consideration. What your man does well is unthreatening, exceptionally pretty but reasonably dull likability (Keanu, The Next Generation if you like). Amazingly, asking him to play a charismatic leader of men struggling with his faith and tortured by loss didn't remotely work.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:54 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
markg wrote:
Better.


Oh Christ, wait, thought of one of the all-time miscasts - Gene Hackman as the Polish commander in A Bridge too Far. "Wow! We've got all these stars! Er, lets cram a few more in. Don't fuss about matching them up to a part..."


No, the all time example of stepping out of your comfort zone has to be Sean Connery in ZARDOZ :D

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:56 ]
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Rodafowa wrote:
Also: I'm not sure of Orloomo Bland is a good enough actor to qualify, but if he is then I'd put Kingdom Of Heaven forward for your consideration.


Gods he was terrible as Legolas. Absolutely awful. IN FACT! Kate Cate Kayte Blanchett as Galadriel. Fucking awful.

Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:57 ]
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WTF? The best bit of all three films was where he surfs down some stairs on his shield.

Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:57 ]
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HHHHNNNGGH! *asplodes*

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:58 ]
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markg wrote:
WTF? The best bit of all three films was where he surfs down some stairs on his shield.

No, the bit where he tosses the dwarf is better.

Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:59 ]
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DBSnappa wrote:
Sean Connery in ZARDOZ :D

He's such a starfucker.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:00 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
markg wrote:
WTF? The best bit of all three films was where he surfs down some stairs on his shield.

No, the bit where he tosses the dwarf is better.

Nah, the 45 minutes of stuff after the film should have ended once they got rid of the ring was best.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:04 ]
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Rodafowa wrote:
Also: I'm not sure of Orloomo Bland is a good enough actor to qualify, but if he is then I'd put Kingdom Of Heaven forward for your consideration. What your man does well is unthreatening, exceptionally pretty but reasonably dull likability (Keanu, The Next Generation if you like). Amazingly, asking him to play a charismatic leader of men struggling with his faith and tortured by loss didn't remotely work.


I think we can stretch to those as there are tons of stars who are good at one thing and shouldn't deviate from it but do. In the original clips we had John Wayne, who no one would consider to be a great actor, trying to get his chops around Genghis Khan.

That's why Keanu gets in, as he is universally regarded as the ultimate air headed pretty boy who wasn't acting in Bill & Ted and he's been truly awful in many films where he's actually required to act, such as the aforementioned MAAN, The Gift and Dracula.

In light of this, I'd like to mention Andie Macdowell in Four Weddings and a Funeral. I'm sorry, who in their right fucking mind would pick her over Kristin Scott Thomas.

Oh and lest I forget, let's do some Bond villains. Jonathan Pryce in Tomorrow Never Dies? About as menacing as a limp stick of celery. Sophie Marceau was pretty shit in The World Is Not Enough as well and Robert Carlyle didn't really pull it off in that movie either - especially when you put the scrawny five foot nothing of him against the six foot something of Brosnan in the final fight scene.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:08 ]
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Denise Richards is not a scientist, either.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:09 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Denise Richards is not a scientist, either.
I've heard very strong rumours that she was in fact a high class hooker before landing the gig in Starship Troopers and she's most definitely nuts nowadays.

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:50 ]
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I didn't think Ed Norton did a particularly good job of Bruce Banner.

And they really should have got Brad Pitt to be The Hulk.

That said, I don't think The Hulk really works as a film anyway.

Edit: I did think that Aaron Eckhart was going to be a terrible Harvey Dent, because I didn't for a second think he would be able to play the role of someone that was supposed to be a decent person, but I was very impressed with his performance.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:06 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
markg wrote:
WTF? The best bit of all three films was where he surfs down some stairs on his shield.

No, the bit where he tosses the dwarf is better.


The best bit IS where he surfs down the steps on the shield, followed by the part where he swings himself under the horse's neck and onto its back.

I quite liked Orlando Bloom in LotR - I don't think I had seen him in anything before that. i was really disappointed to find out he wasn't blonde - he looked much better as a blonde. He also looks better without his silly face fuzz.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:15 ]
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The best bit is when Sean Bean forgets he is acting and starts rambling on about Sheffield United being awesome when he's supposed to be sneering at Frodo.

Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:15 ]
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Also, I quite liked Nicole Kidman in The Interpreter.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:20 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
The best bit is when Sean Bean forgets he is acting and starts rambling on about Sheffield United being awesome when he's supposed to be sneering at Frodo.


It's when he hefts the sword, looks to camera and says "Hmm, still Sharpe".

Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:25 ]
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And then starts going on about why "Errr 2" are the best home broadband supplier.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:34 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Also, I quite liked Nicole Kidman in The Interpreter.


I misread that and got excited.

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Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:42 ]
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I watched an episode of Interceptor recently, and for all it's failings compared to a modern game show, it was strangely compelling.

Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 13:54 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
I watched an episode of Interceptor recently, and for all it's failings compared to a modern game show, it was strangely compelling.




I've met both the pilot and the contestant in this clip. What Interceptor was great at was the set pieces. I'm told all the low flying in the series had to be pre-planned and cleared by the CAA, but the contestants genuinely had no idea what was happening.

This is a contestants view of how the series was made. Fascinating reading:

http://www.interceptors-lair.com/htmldocs/behind_scenes/contestants_view/contview_1.htm

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