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Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:27 ]
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Spotted this on The Guardian website and the clips really are toe curlingly bad. As it says, there are great actors and there are great roles and sometimes they just don't fit.

Anybody have any suggestions? Keanu Reeves has a few in his career, as does Brad Pitt. Any others you can think of?
Author:  LewieP [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:28 ]
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Simon Pegg in Star Trek.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:43 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Simon Pegg in Star Trek.


I though t he was really good in that film...
Author:  LewieP [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:45 ]
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Well you thought wrong.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:52 ]
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From the man that looks at debenhams pictures for pussy!!

I am glad to be wrong :p
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:57 ]
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I call zing on that.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Simon Pegg in Star Trek.
He was alright. It wasn't brilliant casting but wasn't as awful as I thought it could have been either.
Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:51 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Simon Pegg in Star Trek.
He was alright. It wasn't brilliant casting but wasn't as awful as I thought it could have been either.

That.

The definitive Canoe Reeves one is Don John in Much Ado About Nothing. Staggeringly terrible casting. Actually between that, Constantine and Dracula you can probably just say to never cast him as a bloke called John. Or indeed just to never cast him.

Val Kilmer in Batman Forever. Top tip - don't write a script that revolves around the duality of your central character then cast an actor only capable of portraying one emotion.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:09 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Simon Pegg in Star Trek.
He was alright. It wasn't brilliant casting but wasn't as awful as I thought it could have been either.

Yeah, but all you were thinking when you looked at him was 'Simon Pegg'.
Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:12 ]
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Marlon Brando in The Godfather. Couldn't they have hired an actor who could say his lines so you understood what he was saying?
Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:12 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Well you thought wrong.


A reluctant :this:

I love Simon Pegg, but watching the film all I could think was, "That's Simon Pegg." And Simon Pegg isn't Scotty. They should have cast another unknown.
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:12 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Marlon Brando in The Godfather. Couldn't they have hired an actor who could say his lines so you understood what he was saying?


Outside. Now.
Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:14 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Well you thought wrong.


A reluctant :this:

I love Simon Pegg, but watching the film all I could think was, "That's Simon Pegg." And Simon Pegg isn't Scotty. They should have cast another unknown.

He's probably is pretty much unknown in America though. Certainly less well known than the bloke out of Heroes anyway.
Author:  metalangel [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:15 ]
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I read the title as 'masticating'. I'm disappointed now, the only on-topic thing in here is Dimrill's avatar.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:15 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Well you thought wrong.


A reluctant :this:

I love Simon Pegg, but watching the film all I could think was, "That's Simon Pegg." And Simon Pegg isn't Scotty. They should have cast another unknown.


Damn Simon Pegg for being an actor... it must be like when you watch Frost and think Del boy has joined the police..

or when the Master went back to 1973 to be with Gene Hunt :)
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:17 ]
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markg wrote:
AngryPete wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Well you thought wrong.


A reluctant :this:

I love Simon Pegg, but watching the film all I could think was, "That's Simon Pegg." And Simon Pegg isn't Scotty. They should have cast another unknown.

He's probably is pretty much unknown in America though. Certainly less well known than the bloke out of Heroes anyway.

Who was perfectly cast.
Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:18 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
or when the Master went back to 1973 to be with Gene Hunt :)

Cue Chinny's arrival in this thread with a picture of Roger Delgado in 3... 2... 1...
Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:20 ]
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Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
AngryPete wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Well you thought wrong.


A reluctant :this:

I love Simon Pegg, but watching the film all I could think was, "That's Simon Pegg." And Simon Pegg isn't Scotty. They should have cast another unknown.

He's probably is pretty much unknown in America though. Certainly less well known than the bloke out of Heroes anyway.

Who was perfectly cast.
I can't say that Simon Pegg as Scotty really bothered me though. I thought the writers were mostly to blame for that character's failings, whoever had been in that role it would still have been a bit shit. And whoever thought his comedy alien sidekick was a good idea needs a kicking.
Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:21 ]
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Ben Kingsley in Gandhi. Not even a real Indian ffs.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:21 ]
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Richard Briers in Doctor Who. A great actor who turned up and played it for laughs which only works if you can actually pull it off.

On the flip side Nicolas Parsons appeared in Who two years later as a vicar which on the face of it was more woeful miscasting, but actually he was wonderful. Turns out that before he moved into light entertainment he'd trained as an actor.

In fact all go and buy Curse of Fenric now. Probably only a fiver on Amazon, it's awesome:



Here you go, best 6 quid you'll spend this week:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Curse-Fenric-DVD/dp/B0000AISJ9/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1253783986&sr=8-1
Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:23 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Ben Kingsley in Gandhi. Not even a real Indian ffs.

Actually now you mention it Ben Kinglsey as a 'menacing gangster' in Sexy Beast. Sorry, luvvie you're a good actor but no.
Author:  Rodafowa [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:24 ]
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Really? He scared the shit out of me in that film.
Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:24 ]
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Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English. His copic caperings ruined what could have been one of the great spy films of all time.
Author:  LewieP [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:25 ]
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HOLY SHIT.

That was Dustin Hoffman in Hook!!!!

I had no idea.
Author:  Malabelm [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:07 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Ben Kingsley in Gandhi. Not even a real Indian ffs.


That's Sir Ben Kingsley, I think you'll find. He gets really annoyed if you omit the 'Sir', apparently, the pretentious cunt.

LewieP wrote:
HOLY SHIT.

That was Dustin Hoffman in Hook!!!!

I had no idea.


It was indeed, and I didn't think he did bad at all. I haven't seen that film in many years, mind. The bit where the guy is locked in a box with scorpions scared the shit out of me.
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:11 ]
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Can I just blanket this question with three names? Owen Wilson. Nicholas Cage. Shane Ritchie.
Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:12 ]
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No, it's about good actors in good roles but it just doesn't work. Unless you think that messrs Wilson, Cage and Ritchie are all brilliant actors who've been unlucky.
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:14 ]
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Good point.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:14 ]
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I liked Con Air :(
Author:  gospvg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:15 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English. His copic caperings ruined what could have been one of the great spy films of all time.


Kids loved that movie & I thought Rowan was ok as the bungling spy.
Author:  gospvg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:16 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
Can I just blanket this question with three names? Owen Wilson. Nicholas Cage. Shane Ritchie.


God I hate Owen Wilson & that other stupid yank actor in Night at the Museum?
Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:22 ]
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gospvg wrote:
TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English. His copic caperings ruined what could have been one of the great spy films of all time.

Kids loved that movie & I thought Rowan was ok as the bungling spy.

He was no James Bond though was he?

Also, Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man... not even a proper retard ffs.
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:23 ]
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Rodafowa wrote:
The definitive Canoe Reeves one is Don John in Much Ado About Nothing. Staggeringly terrible casting.

:this:

Any time anyone mentions badly cast roles, that is the one that sticks in my mind. I have never, ever seen an actor so under-prepared and incapable of taking on a classic role. It is so, so terrible.
Author:  gospvg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:25 ]
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TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
gospvg wrote:
TheAlbin0Kid wrote:
Rowan Atkinson in Johnny English. His copic caperings ruined what could have been one of the great spy films of all time.

Kids loved that movie & I thought Rowan was ok as the bungling spy.

He was no James Bond though was he?


But I think that was the idea they wanted a silly character who better than the face of Mr Bean
Author:  Mimi [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:27 ]
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Nicole Kidman in every film she's ever made, because she can't act, and surely casting someone who can't act in a film is a form of miscasting.
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:28 ]
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But he's always been that character. Since the Barclaycard days.
Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:29 ]
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Gospvg was badly miscast in Big Stampy Boots.
Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:29 ]
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
In fact all go and buy Curse of Fenric now. Probably only a fiver on Amazon, it's awesome:

Here you go, best 6 quid you'll spend this week:


I remember that, it was terrifying. Me and my little sister were especially frightened when the two girls go down into misty bay, against their mother's wishes. With unhilarious consequences. I must have been eight when I saw that.

Gospvg - at the risk of making a mortal enemy, I say Owen Wilson is great. Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films? He's brilliant in them, co-writes 'em too. He's a damn good script writer too. Owen as Ned in Life Aquatic delivers a genuinely touching, endearing performance. NED! I agree the rom-coms he's also in are shocking, but they can be safely avoided. Hope he's feeling better after that old suicide attempt, and that he makes more excellence.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:30 ]
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John Hannah in everything he's been in.

Just me?
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:31 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films?


Yes I have. It made me want to push his drawling lazy tongue down the back of his throat with my fist.
Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Nicole Kidman in every film she's ever made, because she can't act, and surely casting someone who can't act in a film is a form of miscasting.


Good lord, :this: times infinity.

How she ever managed to fool people into thinking she's a good actress, I have no idea. She's so criminally insincere in every film I've seen her. Her acting is paper thin. She also has a distractingly large, palid forehead.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
He's brilliant in them, co-writes 'em too. He's a damn good script writer too. Owen as Ned in Life Aquatic delivers a genuinely touching, endearing performance.


Agreed, this gets him a lot of points against his subsequent travesties of acting.
Author:  chinnyhill10 [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
chinnyhill10 wrote:
In fact all go and buy Curse of Fenric now. Probably only a fiver on Amazon, it's awesome:

Here you go, best 6 quid you'll spend this week:


I remember that, it was terrifying. Me and my little sister were especially frightened when the two girls go down into misty bay, against their mother's wishes. With unhilarious consequences. I must have been eight when I saw that.


All shot at Lulworth Cove in Dorset. Handily its only a 10 minute drive from Tyneham so you can do both in one day.
Author:  NervousPete [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:32 ]
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Dimrill wrote:
AngryPete wrote:
Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films?


Yes I have. It made me want to push his drawling lazy tongue down the back of his throat with my fist.


You sir, are King Wrong.
Author:  kalmar [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:33 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
How she ever managed to fool people into thinking she's a good actress, I have no idea.


Scientology?
Author:  markg [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:33 ]
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You're all doing it wrong, it isn't just a "name a shit actor" thread. If this was my thread I'd be most unhappy by now, most unhappy >:|
Author:  Dimrill [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:35 ]
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AngryPete wrote:
Dimrill wrote:
AngryPete wrote:
Have you never seen him in Royal Tenennbaums, Bottle Rocket, Life Aquatic - in fact any of the Wes Anderson films?


Yes I have. It made me want to push his drawling lazy tongue down the back of his throat with my fist.


You sir, are King Wrong.


I'm sure he's a very nice person. It wouldn't be something I'd do with malice, more a grim sense of determination. Well, not even that, it'd be dispassionate. And slow.
Author:  TheAlbin0Kid [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:36 ]
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markg wrote:
You're all doing it wrong, it isn't just a "name a shit actor" thread. If this was my thread I'd be most unhappy by now, most unhappy >:|

Yeah, I'm doing better than most of you and I've just been taking the piss.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:37 ]
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I frequently fireball city guards instead of turning invisible to sneak past them in Oblivion.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:37 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Nicole Kidman in every film she's ever made, because she can't act, and surely casting someone who can't act in a film is a form of miscasting.

Then she's not a good actress.
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