Obviously I meant PS, you awkward sod. I have played FFVII through to fairly near the end on the Playstation. In what ways are the PC version different to the PS version? Having played it before and not much liked it I'm not shelling out any money for another version of it that doesn't offer anything new or better.

PC games don't cost money, you idiot!

How about the Vampire series?

Fallout 1 and 2. Edit -- Foxtrot Foxtrot Sierra, you've added those in in a later edit.

Unlikely to work on the laptop.

They'll play absolutely fine on the laptop.

That's fine. I'll bill you for the laptop.

Yes they do.

Anyway, answer the sodding question.

It's the same as the PSX version.

It's the same as the PSX version. Making it the same as the best game in the world, ever.

Cryo's Dune, while not really a proper stats n'shit RPG, is still a jolly atmospheric adventure. I have the Sega CD version (with the glorious rendered bits, video clips of Kyle MacLachlan and the astonishing soundtrack) and it's just amazing.

It's a bit more recent, but Neverwinter Nights was pretty good. Long, though, so I didn't finish it and best played with a small group of real people in co-op

It seemed to be halfway between the excellent Baldur's Gate for the PC and that ghastly Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance thing for the console.

and something with it just didn't click with me.

Actually, come to think of it, Space Rangers is sort of an RPG. It has numerous (excellent text adventures contained within, you upgrade your ship, have standings with different factions. And it's sci-fi!

And it's mad as a bag of spiders. You should play it, it's awesome.

It really isn't. It's 100% D&D rulebase, just like the original Baldur's Gates. BGDA made no pretence towards following the pen and paper rules whatsoever.

BG2 will, in the crazy land in my skull, be the benchmark RPG.

This is no hindrence however, in fact the concept design and art of the computer game is very idiosyncratic and refreshing. It follows a Moebius, French style but yet looks practical. That Fremen with the Elvis hair always amused me though.

Thurfir Hawat (looking rather freaky in the art design) cunning and fascinating

Duncan (a Londo Mollari lookalike) officious and bureaucratic, yet warm and friendly.

The soundtrack is a work of art in itself, especially during the transit scenes, destinied to be skipped over but its surprising how long you'll keep sitting through them.

It's impossible to state how impressed I was by this. While other games (until Grim Fandango came along) had voiceovers that were pantomine ham and over-earnest, with cheesy dialogue, Dune kept a straight face and held a lot of honest charm.

The game is intriguing in being a hybrid of the book and the film, so you have both the weirding martial art, and the sound modules. It plays like an alternate, early draft of the novel, unfolding differently to the book but reaching the same destination. As such it's pretty fascinating, certain characters are dropped, others introduced or fleshed out - the feisty Harah (Paul's first girlfriend, and his mum's reaction is amusing!) being a welcome expansion.

As a game, it is flawed admittedly. Too easy as a whole, and heading back to old locations when you're unclear what you have to do to move things along is a chore. All the same, the injection of a turn based strategy element spices (AHA!) things up a bit, and you get quite proud of the training of your divisions and the output of your harvesters. The game steadily builds, introducing new elements with perfect timing, until before you know it you're ready to claim back the planet. Thanks to an intelligent, witty script (take note, Sci-Fi channel) and a great sense of immersion, the game easily papers over any flaws, and a sense of love for the source material shines through. Because of this, it's one of my all time fave games.

Ooh, lots of good points there. And yes, I forgot how cool yet simple the Gulf War-esque battle scenes were.

I always assumed you were having fun with Harah off camera. To add to this effect, whenever going into the bedroom with her I'd turn down the PC speakers and jack up the 70's funk on my stereo.

Yeah, why did Duncan get saddled with that job? I wonder if there was a bureaucratic mix-up somewhere and Duke Leto's favourite accountant is shitting himself in a commando raid on Giedi Prime?

Naturally first thing I did when getting into my orni was flying North to see what happened. Uh-oh!

You're on a wind-scoured, gritty, worm infested desert planet - you can't afford to be picky with the girlfriends. Especially when there only appear to be two women other than your mum.

Shame the room-sounding never included mom & pop's bedroom.

Man, this thread has become nerdier than even Mr Chris could ever have imagined.

A game I haven't played but want to is Kings Bounty: The Legend. By the same people who made Space Rangers. Sounds completely mental. A review here

(Man, The Drifters are awesome.)

I wish they still made the Chocolate bars. The love child of a twix and a kitkat...

*Cast thread resurrect*

*Rolls an 18*

*Curses*

*Rolls a 9*

Bzzthrup.

*Glitter, explosions, glitter*

And here we are. I downloaded Planescape Torment on my new HP Stream lego laptop yesterday, thinking it would be good for my commute. I've never played it before, and it seems to run fine. But it also feels incredibly fiddly to play. Does one get used to the fiddliness or is one always going to be cursing through their lego trackpad?

I also downloaded Heroes of Might and Magic III, which doesn't feel too onerous on the trackpad so far.

Thanks folks. Think I'll enjoy a few campaigns in HoMM and then return to Planescape.