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http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/440956/m ... premium-e-

Just ordered mine. Total bargain, sod paying £149.99

That's the only stand alone M$ O$ I've ever brought that didn't come OEM with a PC.

Looking forward to it muchly

No browser, so how do I download the internet?!?!

Get a memory key

Pro is still £99.

I will probably be able to get it for a tenner when it finally makes it out. I can get XP Pro and Vista Pro for that.

I'm waiting for google's OS.

It's going to be awesome. not killer flesh eating zombie robot awesome, but awesome all the same.

They even changed things, so rather than coding in binary, they use tertiary, as it means you get more bits for your byte.

Hmm. Can't decide if I should buy a copy of this or not. The PC upstairs has a legal Vista Business, and I'm not going to be using it enough to justify MOAR OHESSESSES really. But £45 is cheap, and Win7 really is quite nice.

I'm going to resist, I keep buying things lately just because they're cheap and now I'm a bit skint.

They don't charge until it dispatches if it helps any. It did for me, paying it would have left me a bit skint but hey, result.

From what I have heard about 7 it's not worth going down the piracy route. And for £45? I've paid more for games to be honest.

I've preordered. I've been "evaluating" windows for several years now and have decided it's time to buy and I would be a massive hypocrite if I didn't at this price.

However if I upgrade my PC with a new motherboard/cpu etc in 3 years time, it won't be a problem reinstalling this will there? I can't find conclusive info on the web and what I have found leans towards it'll be okay but any hard facts are welcome.

I think it's a test to see if people will put their money where their mouths are in all honesty.

I've seen so many people say that they won't pay xxxx ammount for it etc. At this price it's no more than the cost of a game, and you'd be a complete plonker to fuck around trying to hack up a free version.

Very clever IMO. This should get them enough pre sales to go on a nice holiday once it releases

I feel quite happy about it truth be told. I've paid that much for a good Linux box with real manuals and stuff. And it could be worse, the yanks have been afforded no such deal and pre order prices on amazon usa are $199.99 for the full home premium or $119.99 for the upgrade

Usually retail versions of Windows can be moved between hardware, although I don't know if the Win7 licence will allow this.

I might pre-order anyway. Can always cancel.

The only thing that is stopping preordering is the fact that it requires a clean install. Though I might do that anyway.

Seems to be gone now anyway. Unless I'm being a spanner all I can seem to do is sign up to be alerted when it's available. Can't see a pre-order button.

I've held off the beta and pre release versions of 7. If I'm going to do it I'm going to do it once and once only.

I have all the reason to. I want to up my ram to 8gb but I have 32bit Home basic so I can't. I tried to do the M$ exchange but they don't allow it on Alienware OEM or OEM versions of Windows (the crafty buggers !).

So there's no point in putting more ram in mine yet unless I want to step foul of the law (and I really don't like doing that in my older age).

So that's perfect tbh. Gives me time to save up some dough and winter is a time I always spunk some bread on my P.C any way as it's my 'gaming season' as it were.

Mark. give it 20 mins then try again. They're putting them up in batches to keep an eye on how many are selling.

Loads, basically. They're flying out the door (and I really hope this shows m$ and other companies that mass over price is a good way to do business !).

Cheers.

I'm still happy with XP thanks.

Ordered, ta.

oooh, tempted.... but then, I am pretty happy with Vista (which I bought, but a cheap OEM copy).

Why?

Just got one. Cheers JC.

The main difference with 7 is that it includes both 32 and 64 bit Oses.

So as soon as I make the leap to a max 8gb of ram I can simply reinstall.

Because my system eats through the 3gb I have and it's a bottleneck.

Jesus. Doing what? Outside of server workloads I can't imagine what uses more than 3-4Gb.

Doc, will our Macbook Pros get on with this version?

Try loading Crysis Warhead on ultra. Normally you wouldn't see what's actually happening, but thanks to my new Silverstone thing I can watch it now. It's madness.

Also, take a look at what your Nvidia cards are *really* doing to your ram. If they're the 512mb versions EACH ONE will eat 1gb off your ram if it can. When I had my 9800GT I watched my ram go down 512mb instantly when I did anything graphically intense. I then looked into the Nvidia control panel and saw exactly what it was up to.

8gb is pretty extreme truth be told, but even now it's £70 or so. By October it will be less than that and well worth investigating

Also remember I do a lot of photoshop and that eats ram.

You can install Win7 under BootCamp -- I did so -- although it's unsupported. It works fine. So far, Parallels and Fusion don't like it very much, but that will change soon, I'm sure.

I've preordered a copy. I'll probably keep the PC on Vista and use it for the Mac.


Tom's Hardware show no performance improvement in a number of games between 3, 6, and 12Gb of RAM.

No, because I'm running Vista x64. You are correct about x86 though.

A twenty megapixel image at 24 bits per pixel and including an alpha channel is still only 228Mb per layer though. You can fit a lot of those in 3Gb.

My PC, with 4Gb, can run several Visual Studios, a week-old-memory-leaked Firefox, about a dozen instances of Word/Excel/Outlook, and the RAM-hungry app I used to work on simultaneously and still have over a gig spare for disk cache.

I've got 4GB in my (new, thanks Friend-of-JohnCoffey) system but XP only recognises 2.5GB. Gnnnngh.

Yeah, that'll be the 32bit OS fucking with you.

So does Vista. After a lot of shouting M$ made Vista SP1 *see* it but you can't use it lmao.

Glad that all worked out OK Gaz ! did you get the card firing too ?

Oh Doc... Also, if you ever have the misfortune to install GTA4 on a pc watch what happens to your system and video ram when you up the detail slider LOL..

CHOMP !

Got about 5gb occupied at the moment. Shall I open up Motion or Parallels and tip it higher?

Yup, and it's good good. Can play Thief 3 at full settings now, much awesomeness

Treated myself to another monitor too so I've got a dual monitor setup. Was a pain in the ass tracking down a second-hand monitor to match my current (and discontinued) model, but I got one for £80 in the end. Not too shabby.

Oh yeah, I try not to think about you media types. As I suggested above though, even Photoshop monsters don't need super-huge RAM sizes. You fancy movin' pictures people are different though.

Plus, servers. Several of $EMPLOYER'S production SQL Servers have 100+ Gb of RAM. Although our standard web server build is 2Gb.

In the words of Cartman.

Hoo Ray !

hahahahaha ! it's going well then !

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/07/15/w7_promo/

Behold, you people with dual cores. Behold as Final Cut Pro is rendering flat out but can only harness 20% of the CPU time.



Gah!

Edit: For some reason I thought this box had 8gb. It appears to have 6.

Load average of 3 isn't very high across 8 processors. I like that monitoring doodad, which one is it? Also, you have less disk space than I expected to see.

Final Cut just can't use the processors. Now if I fired up Compressor on the other hand, I can. Hopefully Snow Leopard will improve things.

As for HD space, 50 minutes of XDCAM at 35 meg is 16 gig and HDV is about 12 gig per hour. So with good housekeeping I get away with one internal video drive and a couple of external that also carry the same projects.

Remember if you have lots of stuff hanging around you need to back that up. So you need to stay efficient and have good housekeeping or you will end up in a right mess. I always archive as soon as is practical.

The widget is Istat Pro BTW.

That's quite poor. Video manipulation is inherently fairly easy to. I'd hope that Grand Central in Snow Leopard will help a lot.
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Installed, ta. There were so many system monitoring widgets I got bored and ended up not installing any of them.

It is shit but what do you do? It's still significantly faster than my Macbook Pro and of course you get no system slowdown when rendering so can at least do other things.

What a suprise !

Just in case anyone is having problems pre-ordering Windows 7, quite a few places are doing it. I ordered mine from Play.com (who're charging £49.99 for it, but with free delivery).

I've been using Windows 7 RC as my main OS for a little while now and I do really rather like it - though the new taskbar is an absolutely blatant rip-off of Mac OS X's dock.

Aye my friend got it from play.com.

Looks like Amazon have finally ran out finally. No more replenishing by the look of it.

That is cool.. I will wait till later to order it... October is ages away..

and stop using M$ it is sooo annoying..

And by that you mean they have and it was $50.

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2 ... -japan.ars



It's a retail copy, you can install it on whatever you like so long as it's only on one thing at once.

Which is the difference between retail and OEM. An OEM can only ever be used with whatever hardware had the sticker put on at time of purchase.

Don't know if it makes any difference but that says upgrade versions. Doesn't that mean those users will be asked for a valid key from another version of Windows?

Seems to be 8 to me (assuming you need to add 755Mb to 203Mb to 3.33Gb to 2.0Gb to 1.73Gb to get the total)

Malc